Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "Ticket Mills"

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:07:59 -0700 Hatunen wrote:

:On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:01:03 -0800, "Chilly8"
wrote:

:"Robert Cohen" wrote in message
...
: Caveat lecter: This are my experiences and opinions: As they say,
: "been there, done that."

: The traffic police seem to have enormous discretion, so be courteous
: and subservient if they flash their light for you to pull over on the
: side or shoulder.

: The speed laws are enforced arbitrarily: Few cars actually seem to me
: to to go as slow as 55 mph, but that's seemingly the "default"
: highway speed limit of many places. (I'm not kidding.)

:Use a radar jammer, so automated speed cameras cannot get a lock
:on your speed. When I go to France to cover the French Open, I
:have a radar jammer, becuase there a speed camera on the freeway
:near the interchange you use to get and off one freeway there.

:The rader jammer confuses the radar gun, so it cannot gauge your
:speed. By transmitting a powerful jamming signal, it effectively
:makes your vehicle invisible to the radar gun. Google Earth
:once showed the location of a speed camera on the freeway
:near there.

:Radar jammers are illegal.

:http://www.laserveil.com/radar/jammers/

So is speeding.

Duh.

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"TMOliver" wrote in message
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"Chilly8" wrote .....



Use a radar jammer, so automated speed cameras cannot get a lock
on your speed. When I go to France to cover the French Open, I
have a radar jammer, becuase there a speed camera on the freeway
near the interchange you use to get and off one freeway there.

The rader jammer confuses the radar gun, so it cannot gauge your
speed. By transmitting a powerful jamming signal, it effectively
makes your vehicle invisible to the radar gun. Google Earth
once showed the location of a speed camera on the freeway
near there.

Bull****!

"Silly8" as usual knows not of what he speaks and is quite unlikely to
possess an S or X band jammers, and surely not one capable of dual
frequency use, and is even more unlikely to have a car with an electrical
system substantial enough to provide the voltage for a jammer capable of
radiated a strong enough signal to confuses a police radar. Then there's
the matter of an antenna designed to transmit such a signal in a "squashed
cone" wide enough to strike to police radar and continue to strike it
during the angular movement occurring as the vehicle approaches the radar
(plus the necessary additional rear mounted antenna array to deal with the
cop in the car behind you.

Aside from being illegal (even in France, to interfere with the gendarmes
in the performance of their duties is a crime and will get your ass
severely mistreated in several locales with which I'm familiar, although
the flics ain't what they used to be for meanness), there's the fact that
your "radar jammer" provides to the waiting cop a big, obvious blop of
reception on his gadget (if your jammer responds to and transmits on the
same frequency "band" as is used by the local police radar). Beyond that,
your jammer identifying you as a law breaker simply from operating an
illegal transmitter, there's the other problem, police traffic radars are
no longer limited to a single "band" as they once were, and unless our
jammer receives and reacts to the band of the transmitter, it simply sits
there inactive, searching for a signal in its band. Multiband jammers are
the things of military Electronic Contermeasures weapons systems, a bit
expensive for home use (and hard to obtain, there being few SLQ-32s on the
shelf at your local surplus store).

Now police use all sorts of varieties of detection equipment, including
the "speed cams" and even simple optical timing devices, like the old
"Highway" stripes once monitored by the Florida Highway Patrol aircraft.
IIRC, the name of the system started with a "V".

Silly8 is as full of **** as he ever was, lurking coke-bottle lenses
a'gleam in front of his computer, likely never leaving his hermitage, no
matter all his boasts of grand travel.

TMO

The issue of illegal is not normally a state issue (some states do have a
specific law about inteferring with speed measure devices), but a federal
issue. You would be transmitting on a frequency that is restricted to a
specific license. Didn't research the federal penality for this infraction
but would expect it to be severe.

The V stands for VASCAR (Vehicle (some say Visual) Average Speed Computer
and Recorder). Used one for many years when a former PO. People just
couldn't figure out how I was able to clock the one specific vehicle passing
all the trucks and other cars in a group. Also didn't need the stripes on
the road, it can be used with shadows, tar strips and at night reflective
signs. I could clock cars with them in front or behind me travelling in the
same direction or in the opposite direction as I was moving. Also could be
used very effectively while I was stopped with those "painted" stripes.

The other issue is with LADAR (Laser speed measurement devices.) Guess he
also has a pulsed lasar beam emitting from the car to disable the LASER
devices.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:08:41 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
wrote:


:Radar jammers are illegal.

:http://www.laserveil.com/radar/jammers/

So is speeding.

Duh.

So? What's your point?

You can be busted for having a radar jammer while you are sitting
still.

By the by, the frequency bands used by radar speed detectors are
open bands and anyone with a license can operate in those bands.
That means the holder of an amateur radio license can legally
have transmitting and receiving equipment in those bands and
operate them.



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On Dec 30, 11:05*pm, "Mr. Travel" wrote:
Robert Cohen wrote:

my daughter actually got a ticket/fine of a couple hundred *(georgia)
for passing in the outside lane a police car that was stopped on the
shoulder (presumably ticketing another one)

she went to court, and the sob judge wasn't listening to *"i didn't
know"

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. How does this make the judge an SOB?

Are they police suppose to give warning tickets to everyone who claimsn
not to know the law?

MY totally subjective judgment of what constitutes the traffic
ticket factory's "sob judge"

mickey mousey

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/nitwit%20

b-t-w: incident took place in county in which the former d.a. was
indicted and police chief was fired though not indicted

Chilly8 wrote:

Then there is another trick to foil a speed camera, which is
also in use by theaters to prevent people from stealing movies
with video cameras. It is a technology that can blind the
camera, so that they will get NOTHING when they take
the roll of film out to develop it

Film?

traffic problems

A decade ago I touted--unsuccessfully--an obvious, simple idea to
partially solve the traffic jam problem.

The last part of my ole political agenda is on an aol web page that
has the concept (which is always subject to change).

Traffic problems inter-relate, and thus I'm still pushing "explicitly
incentivizing car pools."

Don't hold back commenting how semi-terrif is the idea.

For instance, the crime problem is seemingly the major stumbling
block, as regular taxicabs do seemingly attract thugs.

I no longer think that the insurance industry would be so hard to
convince to cooperate, because, for instance, the traffic in metro
Atlanta is probably worse with more wrecks than ever; and more
carpooling could perhaps lead to bringing down insurance rates too.

I am now too old to run for political office for the 4th or 5th time,
so anybody could take any/all these almost-fantabulous sleeper ideas
and have some fun trying.


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Chilly8 wrote:

Then there is another trick to foil a speed camera, which is
also in use by theaters to prevent people from stealing movies
with video cameras. It is a technology that can blind the
camera, so that they will get NOTHING when they take
the roll of film out to develop it. That is a technology
the law has NOT caught up with yet.

Judging my the number of illegal videos on the market, neither have
theaters.

"Chilly8" wrote in :

The ONLY jammers that are illegal are those that
interfere with either emergency communications, or
commercial broadcasting (AM, FM, Satellite, cable).
This why a cell phone jammer is illegal, but most
radar and GPS jammers are LEGAL. Most
GPS jammers are legal, because the GPS frequencies
do not hanle either emergency communications or
commercial broadcasting services. Radar jammers
do not fall into either of these categories, so FEDERAL
laws DO NOT APPLY. Some STATE laws do apply,
but federal laws on jammers DO NOT APPLY to
radar jammers or most GPS jammers.

Good lord, were do you get your information? There are a few
frequencies where you can operate a transmitter without a license and
those frequencies are limited in power.

The frequencies where the RADAR operates aren't any of them. Note
that jammers are transmitters and transmitters are licensed and
regulated by the FCC.

What a maroon.

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Chilly8 wrote:


The ONLY jammers that are illegal are those that
interfere with either emergency communications, or
commercial broadcasting (AM, FM, Satellite, cable).

Chilly, do ANY countries in the world have laws regulating what you can
transmit without a permit?

What about laws that would consider this to be interfering with a law
enforcement official?

You are really the last person I would rely on for a legal opinion.
Well. maybe not, your dad, Groggie, is probably on top of the list.

Justin Case wrote:

"Chilly8" wrote in :


The ONLY jammers that are illegal are those that
interfere with either emergency communications, or
commercial broadcasting (AM, FM, Satellite, cable).
This why a cell phone jammer is illegal, but most
radar and GPS jammers are LEGAL. Most
GPS jammers are legal, because the GPS frequencies
do not hanle either emergency communications or
commercial broadcasting services. Radar jammers
do not fall into either of these categories, so FEDERAL
laws DO NOT APPLY. Some STATE laws do apply,
but federal laws on jammers DO NOT APPLY to
radar jammers or most GPS jammers.


Good lord, were do you get your information? There are a few
frequencies where you can operate a transmitter without a license and
those frequencies are limited in power.

The frequencies where the RADAR operates aren't any of them. Note
that jammers are transmitters and transmitters are licensed and
regulated by the FCC.

What a maroon.


Or a macaroon.