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Old February 28th, 2006, 08:21 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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In message , at
05:18:31 on Tue, 28 Feb 2006, mrtravel remarked:
Since the baby wouldn't have gotten the passport in time, they would
have still been out the money for the plane tickets and the other
expenses.


The American Embassy in London will issue an emergency passport same
day, in the situation described. I have no reason to believe the
Australians wouldn't.

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Roland Perry
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Old February 28th, 2006, 08:48 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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Calif Bill wrote:

And you talk about what country? At least the US hubs for Foreign Travel,
Europe included, the agents are taught what is needed/


There is no US equivalent to Ryanair.
People want cheap fares, but don't seem to understand that the price
doesn't give them the same services. If they had flown on BA, they would
have not had a problem. On the other hand, I doubt the bothered checking
the doc required before starting the trip, and would not have been able
to get a passport in time for thier flight, which would have still
caused them to lose the money.

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Old February 28th, 2006, 08:50 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at
05:18:31 on Tue, 28 Feb 2006, mrtravel remarked:

Since the baby wouldn't have gotten the passport in time, they would
have still been out the money for the plane tickets and the other
expenses.



The American Embassy in London will issue an emergency passport same
day, in the situation described. I have no reason to believe the
Australians wouldn't.


Same day doesn't mean it would have been in time for the trip.
First, she has to get to the consulate and it must be within their hours
for providing this type of service.

I don't expect every airline employee, especially at a cheap carrier, to
know what it takes for a non citizen of that country to get into another
country.
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Old February 28th, 2006, 09:03 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:50:47 +0000, mrtravel wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at
05:18:31 on Tue, 28 Feb 2006, mrtravel remarked:

Since the baby wouldn't have gotten the passport in time, they would
have still been out the money for the plane tickets and the other
expenses.



The American Embassy in London will issue an emergency passport same
day, in the situation described. I have no reason to believe the
Australians wouldn't.


Same day doesn't mean it would have been in time for the trip.
First, she has to get to the consulate and it must be within their hours
for providing this type of service.

I don't expect every airline employee, especially at a cheap carrier, to
know what it takes for a non citizen of that country to get into another
country.


You would have to advise at least a passport in every case, unless you
know differently, and few travellers know so little as to neglect to check
with the local consulate. Even an Australian in the UK!
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Old February 28th, 2006, 09:38 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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"mrtravel" wrote in message
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Miss L. Toe wrote:\


Do they - If they specifically asked Ryanair for specific advice ?
Who were they supposed to ask for advice ?


I would guess the logical people to ask would be the representatives of
the government of the country they are going to.... you know, the Italian
consular people.


How many times to people ask the consulate of the country they are going to
before boarding a plane?
The usual thing to do is to call the airline, after all it's their job to
know these things.


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Old February 28th, 2006, 09:40 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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"mrtravel" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:

And you talk about what country? At least the US hubs for Foreign
Travel, Europe included, the agents are taught what is needed/


There is no US equivalent to Ryanair.
People want cheap fares, but don't seem to understand that the price
doesn't give them the same services. If they had flown on BA, they would
have not had a problem. On the other hand, I doubt the bothered checking
the doc required before starting the trip, and would not have been able to
get a passport in time for thier flight, which would have still caused
them to lose the money.


They did check. They called the airline. They had no reason to doubt their
advice.





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Old February 28th, 2006, 09:48 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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Mark Hewitt wrote:

How many times to people ask the consulate of the country they are going to
before boarding a plane?
The usual thing to do is to call the airline, after all it's their job to
know these things.



They don't have to go to the consulate. In a lot of cases, the
information is easily found online. I check the entry requirements for
any country I plan to visit. If you want to rely on someone at the
airline to know, that it up to you. Of course, she claimed she asked
Ryanair. This isn't always the same as actually asking them. She might
have said that to deflect the blame.
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Old February 28th, 2006, 09:51 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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"mrtravel" wrote in message
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Mark Hewitt wrote:

How many times to people ask the consulate of the country they are going
to before boarding a plane?
The usual thing to do is to call the airline, after all it's their job to
know these things.



They don't have to go to the consulate. In a lot of cases, the information
is easily found online. I check the entry requirements for any country I
plan to visit. If you want to rely on someone at the airline to know, that
it up to you. Of course, she claimed she asked Ryanair. This isn't always
the same as actually asking them. She might have said that to deflect the
blame.


Sure, you know that, I know that. But the average bod in the street isn't
going to think to look at the Italian consulate or FCO websites, how do you
know she even had a computer? For most people the reasonable course of
action is to call the airline, and if they give her certain advice (which
they did, twice) then she cannot reasonably be blamed for acting upon it.


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Old February 28th, 2006, 09:53 AM posted to alt.travel.uk.air,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe
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Mark Hewitt wrote:

"mrtravel" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


And you talk about what country? At least the US hubs for Foreign
Travel, Europe included, the agents are taught what is needed/


There is no US equivalent to Ryanair.
People want cheap fares, but don't seem to understand that the price
doesn't give them the same services. If they had flown on BA, they would
have not had a problem. On the other hand, I doubt the bothered checking
the doc required before starting the trip, and would not have been able to
get a passport in time for thier flight, which would have still caused
them to lose the money.



They did check. They called the airline. They had no reason to doubt their
advice.


She "said" they called the airline.
I would expect that since both her and husband were immigrants then they
would have a better idea of who to contact.
 




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