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CupCaked wrote: Yes, I know gross tons has nothing to do with the weight of the ship. It has to do with the amount of water the ship replaces. Actually, cruise ships are "measured" a bit differently than cargo vessels regarding displacement, a la "gross registered tons." You are really mixed up. The weight of the ship is eaual to the weight of the water it displaces. If it wasn't, it would sink. Gross registered tons is the tonnage calculated using the national system of the ship's flag country. It can vary considerably from one country to the next because af different definitions of what is considered "enclosed" and the fact that various spaces are exempted. All newly built ships are measured under the 1969 International Tonnage Convention, which has uniform definitions and essentially no exemptions. Both national and international tonnage are volume measurement and have nothing to do with the weight or displacement of the ship. The tonnage is used for regulatory purposes and for assessing fees and taxes. Displacement is caluclated as part of the ships's stability test. The method is the same for cargo ships and pasenger ships.It is not generally advertised as part of a commercial ship's particulars, but is the usual stated measurement for military ships. |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:39:13 -0500, Terry Steinford
wrote: CupCaked wrote: Yes, I know gross tons has nothing to do with the weight of the ship. It has to do with the amount of water the ship replaces. Actually, cruise ships are "measured" a bit differently than cargo vessels regarding displacement, a la "gross registered tons." You are really mixed up. The weight of the ship is eaual to the weight of the water it displaces. If it wasn't, it would sink. Gross registered tons is the tonnage calculated using the national system of the ship's flag country. It can vary considerably from one country to the next because af different definitions of what is considered "enclosed" and the fact that various spaces are exempted. All newly built ships are measured under the 1969 International Tonnage Convention, which has uniform definitions and essentially no exemptions. Both national and international tonnage are volume measurement and have nothing to do with the weight or displacement of the ship. The tonnage is used for regulatory purposes and for assessing fees and taxes. Displacement is caluclated as part of the ships's stability test. The method is the same for cargo ships and pasenger ships.It is not generally advertised as part of a commercial ship's particulars, but is the usual stated measurement for military ships. LOL. Terry thanks for the info. I bet you're an engineer. As a friend once said of me, "Ask Jim what time it is and he'll tell you how to build a watch". Archimedes would be proud of you. g Jim |
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Now we have Carnival showing up in the press conference with Commander
Warrick of the QM2 after ET & others announced that Cunard can nejoy their world's largest standing until RCCL builds their 160,000 gross ton Ultra Voyager. I quote: "Is Carnival Corp. planning to add an even bigger ship to one of its fleets? "Ships clearly can become bigger," Arison says, quite noncommittally, but "I don't expect to see them getting significantly bigger." Earlier, Carnival Corporation has stated that it's interested in creating a new class of ships up to the 180,000-ton range. So again they have to show up, the jealousy bug strikes......... (RICK DAVIS) wrote in message ... Last night on NBC Nightly News they had a brief (too brief for my liking) report about the QM2. At the end of the report they said that as of right now the QM2 is the largest ship afloat but that in 2 years RCCL will be coming out with an even larger one. Does anyone know how much larger and will it be a Voyager Class Ship? Is the ship under construction now? I really liked the looks of that two story suite but at $50K + the TV is as close as I'll ever come to it. |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:45:13 -0800, ChiliJim
wrote: LOL. Terry thanks for the info. I bet you're an engineer. As a friend once said of me, "Ask Jim what time it is and he'll tell you how to build a watch". Then Jim can give the watch to the watchless idiot who asked for time and never have to screw with him again. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 |
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On 8 Jan 2004 13:35:35 -0800, (Brenda)
wrote: Now we have Carnival showing up in the press conference with Commander Warrick of the QM2 after ET & others announced that Cunard can nejoy their world's largest standing until RCCL builds their 160,000 gross ton Ultra Voyager. I quote: "Is Carnival Corp. planning to add an even bigger ship to one of its fleets? "Ships clearly can become bigger," Arison says, quite noncommittally, but "I don't expect to see them getting significantly bigger." Earlier, Carnival Corporation has stated that it's interested in creating a new class of ships up to the 180,000-ton range. So again they have to show up, the jealousy bug strikes......... More like men comparing penis sizes in a locker room. When Captain James asked on the Brilliance to a crowd of several hundred if they wanted bigger ships, smaller ships etc, the overwhelming response was NOT for bigger ships. Then he pulled his pants up. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 |
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RICK DAVIS wrote: Last night on NBC Nightly News they had a brief (too brief for my liking) report about the QM2. At the end of the report they said that as of right now the QM2 is the largest ship afloat but that in 2 years RCCL will be coming out with an even larger one. Big ****. Stupid focus, IMO. Ben S. |
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Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:40:47 -0500 (EST), (RICK DAVIS) wrote: RCCL will be coming out with an even larger one. Does anyone know how much larger and will it be a Voyager Class Ship? Is the ship under construction now? Hi Rick, Building on the popularity and success of its Voyager-class ships, Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. today ordered an even larger model -- the Ultra Voyager -- for delivery in May 2006. Roughly 15 percent larger than Voyager, the Ultra Voyager will be 126 feet by 1,112 feet, and will stand 18 stories high while cruising at approximately 22 knots. 18 stories? Or 18 decks? 18 stories is a lot higher than 18 decks. The height of most bridges at the lowest point is how many stories? Ben S. |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:53:21 GMT, Benjamin Smith
wrote: 18 stories? Or 18 decks? 18 stories is a lot higher than 18 decks. Hi Ben, I quoted the press release from Royal Caribbean. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:09:05 -0800, Ray Goldenberg
wrote: 18 stories? Or 18 decks? 18 stories is a lot higher than 18 decks. Hi Ben, I quoted the press release from Royal Caribbean. and added by billboard sig line each time. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 |
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