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  #11  
Old January 5th, 2013, 09:33 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
poldy
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Default Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........

In article ,
Erilar wrote:

What are you top experiences travelling in Europe?


Grabbing them at random from the top of my mind, and for different reasons,
in no particular order. . .

Although Germany and Austria are my favorite places to vist, for one-trip
experiences:

Orkney with my very own archaeologist guide and no group to leave me
behind.

A bit of England and Wales hunting castles and even older sites with two
friends was also the most sheer fun.

A saga-emphasis group trip to Iceland with one of my all- time
single-moment high points: Thingvellir all to myself when cold rainy wind
had driven the rest of the group back to the bus.


Sunnier places don't rate?
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:17 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Dan Stephenson
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On 2013-01-05 14:08:23 -0600, Erilar said:

I haven't seen a lot of Scotland(I was on my way to Orkney), but I agree.
I need someone else to drive for me, however 8-)


If you are referring to the left-side driving / right-side in the car,
I know what you mean. It can be terrifying. However, for what it is
worth, it only takes two weeks' to get over it, and subsequently you
will be used to it forever. Britain (and Ireland, or New Zealand for
that matter) are beautiful places for scenic driving and this should
not be missed in one's life.

The easiest roads for learning are the big motorways. Next are the
smallest roads because of light traffic. The worst are the A roads, or
through towns.

The problem is not sitting on the right or shifting with your left
hand; it's lack of intuition for where is the left side of the car.
You are in danger of scraping things with the left side of the road,
which is problematic in Britain given the tendency for stone walls
lining the streets. What I recommend in these cases is to lean bodily
to the right in the car to see the center lane divider very well, and
try to be close to the center lane marker as possible. Although you
will still feel in your gut that you will scrape things on the left,
your rational mind will know that if you are as far over as possible,
it will not happen. Just take it easy. And don't drive at night.

Oh my goodness, my first driving was from Bristol to Stonehenge, where
I could only rent ("hire", in Britishese) from the airport there, as it
was on a weekend and apparenlty car rentals close down on the weekends.
And I got the "I'm going to get hit" feeling once every 10-15 seconds.
Then, after seeing Stonehenge after hours on the Special Access Pass
through English Heritage (where you can walk through the stones), I got
to drive BACK to Bath (where I was staying, at St. Leonard's B&B) IN
THE DARK. And let me tell you, Britons do not believe in street
lighting. It was pitch black except for where the car headlamps
penetrated. And the headlamps of oncoming cars are CLEARLY headed
straight for you. Completely terrifying.


--
Dan Stephenson
http://stepheda.com
Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)

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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:48 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
JohnT[_8_]
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"Erilar" wrote in message
...
What are you top experiences travelling in Europe?


Grabbing them at random from the top of my mind, and for different
reasons,
in no particular order. . .

Although Germany and Austria are my favorite places to vist, for one-trip
experiences:

Orkney with my very own archaeologist guide and no group to leave me
behind.

A bit of England and Wales hunting castles and even older sites with two
friends was also the most sheer fun.

A saga-emphasis group trip to Iceland with one of my all- time
single-moment high points: Thingvellir all to myself when cold rainy wind
had driven the rest of the group back to the bus.



--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad



--
JohnT

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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:49 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
JohnT[_8_]
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"Erilar" wrote in message
...
What are you top experiences travelling in Europe?


Grabbing them at random from the top of my mind, and for different
reasons,
in no particular order. . .

Although Germany and Austria are my favorite places to vist, for one-trip
experiences:

Orkney with my very own archaeologist guide and no group to leave me
behind.

A bit of England and Wales hunting castles and even older sites with two
friends was also the most sheer fun.

A saga-emphasis group trip to Iceland with one of my all- time
single-moment high points: Thingvellir all to myself when cold rainy wind
had driven the rest of the group back to the bus.


And Charles de Gaulle Airport?
--
JohnT

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Old January 5th, 2013, 11:40 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Mark Brader
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Default Driving in Britain advice Scotland is Beautiful Top Three Scenic Drives? Ummm.........

Dan Stephenson:
The problem is not sitting on the right or shifting with your left
hand; it's lack of intuition for where is the left side of the car.
You are in danger of scraping things with the left side of the road,
which is problematic in Britain given the tendency for stone walls
lining the streets...


That and remembering that road signs *on your left* are intended for you.

Oh, and after you've had a few days to get used to things being reversed,
you'll probably forget once. You'll turn out of a driveway onto an
empty street and forget to drive on the left, say.
--
Mark Brader "Outside of nearly having two head-on collisions,
we found driving in England to be fairly easy."
Toronto -- Cher Classick

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  #16  
Old January 6th, 2013, 04:45 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Poetic Justice
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Stephen*Ellenson wrote;

....... does anyone actually discuss travel
in this newsgroup anymore?????


No, sadly the group is dead and Usenet is on life support.

Example; Look at the 'Big 3' cities for European travel Rome, Paris, and
London.

How many times in 2012 has a newbie or a regular posted here looking for
info on those cities?

I am very knowledgeable about Rome and have checked this site daily
since '97.

In 2012 I made 7 posts, 4 off-topic, 2 semi on-topic (1 about another
European travel messageboard and 1 about a spammer for Italy travel) and
2 on-topic posts about Rome.

A few (sincere and good hearted) regulars for years always go on a short
posting frenzy whenever this subject is raised.

But R.T.E has hit the iceberg and like most other Usenet Groups it will
finally sadly sink.

And then it will only be Runge and the spammers left and he will be our
legacy:-(. Regards, Walter

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Old January 6th, 2013, 02:32 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...
What are you top experiences travelling in Europe?


Grabbing them at random from the top of my mind, and for different reasons,
in no particular order. . .

Although Germany and Austria are my favorite places to vist, for one-trip
experiences:

Orkney with my very own archaeologist guide and no group to leave me
behind.

A bit of England and Wales hunting castles and even older sites with two
friends was also the most sheer fun.

A saga-emphasis group trip to Iceland with one of my all- time
single-moment high points: Thingvellir all to myself when cold rainy wind
had driven the rest of the group back to the bus.


And Charles de Gaulle Airport?


Absolute worst airport I've ever suffered. I know avoid it as the plague
it is.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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Old January 6th, 2013, 02:32 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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Default Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........

poldy wrote:
In article ,
Erilar wrote:

What are you top experiences travelling in Europe?


Grabbing them at random from the top of my mind, and for different reasons,
in no particular order. . .

Although Germany and Austria are my favorite places to vist, for one-trip
experiences:

Orkney with my very own archaeologist guide and no group to leave me
behind.

A bit of England and Wales hunting castles and even older sites with two
friends was also the most sheer fun.

A saga-emphasis group trip to Iceland with one of my all- time
single-moment high points: Thingvellir all to myself when cold rainy wind
had driven the rest of the group back to the bus.


Sunnier places don't rate?


Other group members don't flee to the bus as quickly on sunny days, of
which we had many. It was May in Iceland, however. Nevertheless, it was
mostly warmer than early May in Orkney. Cold doesn't bother me much, but
heat wipes me out quickly.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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Old January 6th, 2013, 05:14 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Dan Stephenson
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On 2013-01-06 07:32:27 -0600, Erilar said:

poldy wrote:
In article ,
Erilar wrote:

What are you top experiences travelling in Europe?

Grabbing them at random from the top of my mind, and for different reasons,
in no particular order. . .

Although Germany and Austria are my favorite places to vist, for one-trip
experiences:

Orkney with my very own archaeologist guide and no group to leave me
behind.

A bit of England and Wales hunting castles and even older sites with two
friends was also the most sheer fun.

A saga-emphasis group trip to Iceland with one of my all- time
single-moment high points: Thingvellir all to myself when cold rainy wind
had driven the rest of the group back to the bus.


Sunnier places don't rate?


Other group members don't flee to the bus as quickly on sunny days, of
which we had many. It was May in Iceland, however. Nevertheless, it was
mostly warmer than early May in Orkney. Cold doesn't bother me much, but
heat wipes me out quickly.


You can always put on more clothes.

I like the cool overcastness of the British Isles.

Which is a problem for me since I am also a fan of ancient Greek ruins,
and Greece is the antithesis of the British Isles.

--
Dan Stephenson
http://stepheda.com
Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)

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Old January 6th, 2013, 07:53 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Poetic Justice
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Dan*Stephenson wrote;

I like the cool overcastness of the British
Isles.
Which is a problem for me since I am also
a fan of ancient Greek ruins, and Greece
is the antithesis of the British Isles.


Try Delphi in January.

I arrived mid-week the afternoon before so the next day I was at the
site when it 1st opened.

The 1st at least 2 hours I was completely alone in the site, it was cold
and drizzling and the clouds were rolling thru the site's ruins in wisps
like this http://tinyurl.com/aklavov

The custodians were all in their little 1 man shacks completely out of
sight and hearing, the fog/clouds and the drizzle dampened any outside
noise, I could only hear my footsteps.

It was very surreal which greatly enhanced my visit to this mystical
site.

I would not exchange that cold drizzling morning silently alone in the
clouds amongst the ruins with the most beautiful warm sunny day Delphi
ever had:-). Regards, Walter

 




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