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Old October 18th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Jimbo
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Default T-shirt woman kicked off Southwest flight to sue

SNIP
A spokesman for Southwest Airlines (JUNK) told CNN that the airline used
the "common sense" approach when they decided to escort Heasley from the
plane in Reno, Nevada, during a stopover between Los Angeles and
Portland, Ore.
SNIP
===
If this was soooooo offensive and passengers were soooo outraged, WHY
was she let on to the plane to begin with? AND, nobody saw her
"offensive" shirt before she boarded the plane?
Too bad we won't see this on A&E.
JDR

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Old October 19th, 2005, 05:58 PM
TOliver
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"Jimbo" wrote ...
SNIP
A spokesman for Southwest Airlines (JUNK) told CNN that the airline used
the "common sense" approach when they decided to escort Heasley from the
plane in Reno, Nevada, during a stopover between Los Angeles and
Portland, Ore.
SNIP
===
If this was soooooo offensive and passengers were soooo outraged, WHY
was she let on to the plane to begin with? AND, nobody saw her
"offensive" shirt before she boarded the plane?
Too bad we won't see this on A&E.



It pays to read the thread.....

Apparently, she wore a jacket when boarding the first leg, and removed it.

According to WN, had she (a) put the jacket back on, or (b) changed shirts,
she would have been allowed to continue.

As with any other public accommodation, WN must exercise reasonable
judgement. In this case, the airline's agent or the a/c's pilot determined
that the Tshirt was likely to give offense to other passengers, a situation
which under the cover of appearance or conduct can get you kicked off any
number of carriers. Any of us might individually consider the "judgement"
as other than reasonable, but WN isn't "any of us" and must act under
consistent policies which are not discriminatory toward any speacial class
and in the opinion of the airline are likely to be acceptable to a jury of
12 (or enough of the 12 to keep WN from having to pay damages). In this
case, during which a modest adjustment/return to original dress would have
prevented the potential problem, WN's skirts are likely quite clean.

TMO


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Old October 19th, 2005, 06:42 PM
john
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Default T-shirt woman kicked off Southwest flight to sue

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:58:16 GMT, "TOliver"
wrote:


"Jimbo" wrote ...
SNIP
A spokesman for Southwest Airlines (JUNK) told CNN that the airline used
the "common sense" approach when they decided to escort Heasley from the
plane in Reno, Nevada, during a stopover between Los Angeles and
Portland, Ore.
SNIP
===
If this was soooooo offensive and passengers were soooo outraged, WHY
was she let on to the plane to begin with? AND, nobody saw her
"offensive" shirt before she boarded the plane?
Too bad we won't see this on A&E.



It pays to read the thread.....

Apparently, she wore a jacket when boarding the first leg, and removed it.


So you claim.

Who are you quoting?


According to WN, had she (a) put the jacket back on, or (b) changed shirts,
she would have been allowed to continue.


Can you cite a source for this quote from WN?

As with any other public accommodation, WN must exercise reasonable
judgement. In this case, the airline's agent or the a/c's pilot determined
that the Tshirt was likely to give offense to other passengers, a situation
which under the cover of appearance or conduct can get you kicked off any
number of carriers. Any of us might individually consider the "judgement"
as other than reasonable, but WN isn't "any of us" and must act under
consistent policies which are not discriminatory toward any speacial class
and in the opinion of the airline are likely to be acceptable to a jury of
12 (or enough of the 12 to keep WN from having to pay damages). In this
case, during which a modest adjustment/return to original dress would have
prevented the potential problem, WN's skirts are likely quite clean.

TMO


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Old October 20th, 2005, 07:37 AM
TOliver
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Default T-shirt woman kicked off Southwest flight to sue


"john" wrote...
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:58:16 GMT, "TOliver" wrote:


"Jimbo" wrote ...
SNIP
A spokesman for Southwest Airlines (JUNK) told CNN that the airline used
the "common sense" approach when they decided to escort Heasley from the
plane in Reno, Nevada, during a stopover between Los Angeles and
Portland, Ore.
SNIP
===
If this was soooooo offensive and passengers were soooo outraged, WHY
was she let on to the plane to begin with? AND, nobody saw her
"offensive" shirt before she boarded the plane?
Too bad we won't see this on A&E.



It pays to read the thread.....

Apparently, she wore a jacket when boarding the first leg, and removed it.


So you claim.

Who are you quoting?


A variety of previous posts in the thread, to all of which you seem to have
avoided any exposure.....


According to WN, had she (a) put the jacket back on, or (b) changed
shirts,
she would have been allowed to continue.


Can you cite a source for this quote from WN?


See above, previous posts stretching back over aweek or so.....


As with any other public accommodation, WN must exercise reasonable
judgement. In this case, the airline's agent or the a/c's pilot
determined
that the Tshirt was likely to give offense to other passengers, a
situation
which under the cover of appearance or conduct can get you kicked off any
number of carriers. Any of us might individually consider the
"judgement"
as other than reasonable, but WN isn't "any of us" and must act under
consistent policies which are not discriminatory toward any speacial class
and in the opinion of the airline are likely to be acceptable to a jury of
12 (or enough of the 12 to keep WN from having to pay damages). In this
case, during which a modest adjustment/return to original dress would have
prevented the potential problem, WN's skirts are likely quite clean.

TMO




  #5  
Old October 20th, 2005, 06:20 PM
john
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Default T-shirt woman kicked off Southwest flight to sue

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:37:20 GMT, "TOliver"
wrote:


"john" wrote...
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:58:16 GMT, "TOliver" wrote:


"Jimbo" wrote ...
SNIP
A spokesman for Southwest Airlines (JUNK) told CNN that the airline used
the "common sense" approach when they decided to escort Heasley from the
plane in Reno, Nevada, during a stopover between Los Angeles and
Portland, Ore.
SNIP
===
If this was soooooo offensive and passengers were soooo outraged, WHY
was she let on to the plane to begin with? AND, nobody saw her
"offensive" shirt before she boarded the plane?
Too bad we won't see this on A&E.


It pays to read the thread.....

Apparently, she wore a jacket when boarding the first leg, and removed it.


So you claim.

Who are you quoting?


A variety of previous posts in the thread, to all of which you seem to have
avoided any exposure.....


I guess you just take as the gospel truth everything that is said in
messages to this thread.

Someone says:

I heard that she wore a jacket when she boarded the first leg..."


You then take that statement and come up with:

"Apparently, she wore a jacket when boarding the first leg, and
removed it".



According to WN, had she (a) put the jacket back on, or (b) changed
shirts,
she would have been allowed to continue.


Can you cite a source for this quote from WN?


See above, previous posts stretching back over aweek or so.....


So you can't cite a source for this quote from WN?




As with any other public accommodation, WN must exercise reasonable
judgement. In this case, the airline's agent or the a/c's pilot
determined
that the Tshirt was likely to give offense to other passengers, a
situation
which under the cover of appearance or conduct can get you kicked off any
number of carriers. Any of us might individually consider the
"judgement"
as other than reasonable, but WN isn't "any of us" and must act under
consistent policies which are not discriminatory toward any speacial class
and in the opinion of the airline are likely to be acceptable to a jury of
12 (or enough of the 12 to keep WN from having to pay damages). In this
case, during which a modest adjustment/return to original dress would have
prevented the potential problem, WN's skirts are likely quite clean.

TMO




 




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