Are CAs & CGAs Really Qualified and With Integrity? Suitable as Passport Guarantors? - More

OF CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS, ACCOUNTANTS,
AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, Including Passport Office

CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?

Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with stories of
major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS (CGA's) in
Canada .

In Alberta , the media have had a field day, reporting on the fact that the
Past President of CGA Alberta, a CGA and FCGA, was under investigation on a
complaint by the HONGKONG BANK to the RCMP Commercial Crime Division.The HK
Bank was complaining about William Mearns, who had been for 12 years the
Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

Mearns has now been charged with 14 serious criminal charges, as reported in
the Edmonton Sun, Red Deer Advocate, and CFRN-TV. Among the charges are 5
charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of making a false
document, 2 charges of forgery, one more charge of fraud, and one of theft
over $5,000.00.

On 4th October 1996, Mearns was finally convicted in Red deer Criminal Court,
and received a prison sentence of 3 1/2 years.

More than ONE MILLION DOLLARS is reported to be missing, from the County of
Red Deer, for which Mearns was the County Controller/Treasurer.

In the past year Mearns and one of his businesses have both gone bankrupt.

At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or even to
Members of CGA Alberta, Mearns was allowed to SECRETLY RESIGN both his CGA and
FCGA designations. This seems to be a first for Canada, where an FCGA
surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.

Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in 1987-1988, where
he was involved withthe admission to CGA Alberta of unqualified bookkeepers,
who were given the CGA designation, without any requirement for education,
qualifications, experience, NO EXAMS, or even a requirement for upgrading
courses to bring them up to an acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course
benefitted financially, from the huge increase in dues and fees from these new
members.

WHAT IS EVEN MORE CURIOUS, IS THAT THE C.A. FIRM AUDITING MEARNS' EMBEZZLEMENT
FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, DID NOT GET CHARGED WITH THEIR GROSS OR CRIMINAL
NEGLIGENCE, OR OTHER CHARGES!!
Why not is what normal people are asking!!

The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner headlines
regarding Roman Evancic CGA and FCGA, who had got himself SHOT !!This was
apparently in connection with some business partner and a collections problem.
The news reported that the assailant said, as he shot Evancic:"I'm from your
stock brokers. I understand you ripped him off" (per Vancouver Sun - 11
January 1996).

And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey,B.C. CGA,
convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow parishioners of his
church.

Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that the
Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA's in those provinces
ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have something to do with
the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could move to the Maritimes, and
even though unqualified, could still call himself a CGA there?

Students of accounting in S.E.Asia, and the Caribbean, who have to pay many
thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do you feel about these
"gwaliau" who got the CGA for free?

Students of accounting, public accountants, members of the public and
financial institutions who are concerned about credibility in the accounting
profession are invited to respond.
_________________________________________
Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
More than 140,000 groups
Unlimited download
http://www.usenetzone.com to open account

What is the point of this gibberish, covering events that are a decade
old? It proves NOTHING about current CGAs, and I could just as easily
point to firms of CAs and CPA in the US who have done us wrong, such as
in the case of Enron, and where the cost to us was far higher. Crooks
exist in almost any field, and repeating this junk from over 1o years
ago as if it were current fact is pure CRAP, and slanderous to today's
CGAs.

If George Firestone wants to rant about events from 1995 and 1996, he
should at least get rid of the 'Over the past year' that is really
talking about 10 years ago, unless it was 11 years ago. NONE of this was
in the past year! If nothing else, it proves that George Firestone is
personally LYING, as he convieniently forgets a few years here and
there, KNOWINGLY.


RsH
-----------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:03:43 -0600, George Firestone
wrote:

OF CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS, ACCOUNTANTS,
AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, Including Passport Office

CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?

Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with stories of
major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS (CGA's) in
Canada .

In Alberta , the media have had a field day, reporting on the fact that the
Past President of CGA Alberta, a CGA and FCGA, was under investigation on a
complaint by the HONGKONG BANK to the RCMP Commercial Crime Division.The HK
Bank was complaining about William Mearns, who had been for 12 years the
Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

Mearns has now been charged with 14 serious criminal charges, as reported in
the Edmonton Sun, Red Deer Advocate, and CFRN-TV. Among the charges are 5
charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of making a false
document, 2 charges of forgery, one more charge of fraud, and one of theft
over $5,000.00.

On 4th October 1996, Mearns was finally convicted in Red deer Criminal Court,
and received a prison sentence of 3 1/2 years.

More than ONE MILLION DOLLARS is reported to be missing, from the County of
Red Deer, for which Mearns was the County Controller/Treasurer.

In the past year Mearns and one of his businesses have both gone bankrupt.

At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or even to
Members of CGA Alberta, Mearns was allowed to SECRETLY RESIGN both his CGA and
FCGA designations. This seems to be a first for Canada, where an FCGA
surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.

Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in 1987-1988, where
he was involved withthe admission to CGA Alberta of unqualified bookkeepers,
who were given the CGA designation, without any requirement for education,
qualifications, experience, NO EXAMS, or even a requirement for upgrading
courses to bring them up to an acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course
benefitted financially, from the huge increase in dues and fees from these new
members.

WHAT IS EVEN MORE CURIOUS, IS THAT THE C.A. FIRM AUDITING MEARNS' EMBEZZLEMENT
FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, DID NOT GET CHARGED WITH THEIR GROSS OR CRIMINAL
NEGLIGENCE, OR OTHER CHARGES!!
Why not is what normal people are asking!!

The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner headlines
regarding Roman Evancic CGA and FCGA, who had got himself SHOT !!This was
apparently in connection with some business partner and a collections problem.
The news reported that the assailant said, as he shot Evancic:"I'm from your
stock brokers. I understand you ripped him off" (per Vancouver Sun - 11
January 1996).

And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey,B.C. CGA,
convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow parishioners of his
church.

Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that the
Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA's in those provinces
ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have something to do with
the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could move to the Maritimes, and
even though unqualified, could still call himself a CGA there?

Students of accounting in S.E.Asia, and the Caribbean, who have to pay many
thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do you feel about these
"gwaliau" who got the CGA for free?

Students of accounting, public accountants, members of the public and
financial institutions who are concerned about credibility in the accounting
profession are invited to respond.
_________________________________________
Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
More than 140,000 groups
Unlimited download
http://www.usenetzone.com to open account
================================================== =====
Copyright retained. My opinions - no one else's...
If this is illegal where you are, do not read it!

The authentic George Firestone posts ONLY through ORGANIZATION: BellSouth
Internet Group

The homosexual admirer Grosvenor uses fake George Firestone posts ONLY
through ORGANIZATION: Usenet Zone
He cannot use Organization: BellSouth Internet Group


The dishonorable fraud Grosvenor posts using these and a long list of fake
names Helmut Wappner/Hoaxenkampf/Hexenbuster/
Roger Firestone/Szaki88/Arielv18/GeorgeF/Jules Striker/Grosvenor/Kens
Spencer Etc.

even though he tries to pretend "firestone@bellsouth" all his posts come
from
Organization: Usenet Zone NOT BellSouth!


History: William Grosvenor- check him at Google.
A mentally disturbed person with a fixation on
Jews,Homosexuals,Lawyers,politicians and judges.
Using Usenet Zone he posts often to soc.culture.usa,
soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe,
soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.ukrainian pretending to be from
Firestone@Bellsouth. He frequently posts to alt.homosexual
using other peoples names in an
attempt to discredit them. He is transparent since
UsenetZone must show as the Organization.
His list of everchanging names only because he has no
credibility and fears posting under his own name.

A partial list of fake names below:








Ernst Zundholz




e

freecycle@pepsiphreak





Georges Feuerstein







KenMcVay
noid



Ken McVaySOBC

PanPiotrGlownia@*


noid
Riain noid







--

"George Firestone" wrote in message
...
OF CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS, Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet
Server
More than 140,000 groups
Unlimited download
http://www.usenetzone.com to open account