French Attitude

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:54:59 -0700, yod-yog+ais
wrote:

On 10/17/2008 3:00 AM Magiel Venema ignored two million years of human=20
evolution to write:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about=
=20
the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is=20
probably too sophisticated to your tase.

If these are the best examples of French beer you can come up with, you
have no business talking about sophistication or taste. They're all
typical boring, flabby, unexceptional lagers.

There is far better to be had in France. I'd much rather drink a nice
bi=E9re de garde from the Nord Pas-de-Calais region than any dull mass-
produced lager from a giant Alsatian beer factory. Jenlain, 3 Monts,
and St. Armand beat anything you'll get from the likes of Kronenbourg
or Pelforth.

St Omer. LOL

On 10/18/2008 10:31 AM Graz did a "happy dance", then made these writings:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:54:59 -0700, yod-yog+ais
wrote:


On 10/17/2008 3:00 AM Magiel Venema ignored two million years of human=20
evolution to write:


Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about=

=20

the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is=20
probably too sophisticated to your tase.

If these are the best examples of French beer you can come up with, you
have no business talking about sophistication or taste. They're all
typical boring, flabby, unexceptional lagers.

There is far better to be had in France. I'd much rather drink a nice
bi=E9re de garde from the Nord Pas-de-Calais region than any dull mass-
produced lager from a giant Alsatian beer factory. Jenlain, 3 Monts,
and St. Armand beat anything you'll get from the likes of Kronenbourg
or Pelforth.


St Omer. LOL


There's nothing quite like Iron City Beer from Pittsburgh, Pa.

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Magical Enema sprayed:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about
the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is
probably too sophisticated to your tase.


I guess you are "too sophisticated" to know how to properly quote, eh
wot...???



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Gregory Morrow wrote:
Runge13 blabbles:

Well you didn't look hard enough


"Bier '33' "


I've always thought of that as vietnamese beer

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Nothing else to add, enema morrow ?

"Gregory Morrow" a écrit dans le message de
m...

Magical Enema sprayed:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about
the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is
probably too sophisticated to your tase.


I guess you are "too sophisticated" to know how to properly quote, eh
wot...???



--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim
that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

Of course not.
morrow travels from his couch and thinks he knows best.

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On 10/16/2008 10:27 PM Hackamore ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

Memphis? Boscos (or is that Nashville)?

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and import draft)

Flying Saucer?

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...

Depends on where you are in France. There are a number of good
specialist breweries and even a few brewpubs, including the
Trois Brasseurs group. There are quite a few good specialist
beer bars too, and Belgian beer is also easy to find. I've
never had difficulty finding decent beer, domestic or otherwise,
in France.

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

Memphis? Boscos (or is that Nashville)?

Hi,

the first bosco's was here (it's closed but midtown is lively) in
Memphis though there is a Nashville location.

memphis has I think 3 brew pubs these days.

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and import draft)

Flying Saucer?

in my case the one in Germantown...

I find their food lacking...

I can manage to snack at it but it doesn't really thrill me...

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the calimari or the garlic cheese fries at
bosco's.

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...

Depends on where you are in France. There are a number of good
specialist breweries and even a few brewpubs, including the
Trois Brasseurs group. There are quite a few good specialist
beer bars too, and Belgian beer is also easy to find. I've
never had difficulty finding decent beer, domestic or otherwise,
in France.

finding good beer has never been a problem...

I've just never had good french beer...

and sometimes the border is so close it's silly... like Chimay... just
BARELY across into Belgium but great beer.

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Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
Hackamore wrote:

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...


No problem in Amsterdam eh Frank?
Have you frequented 't Arendsnest, with 200 beers?

http://www.arendsnest.nl/

Hi,

I don't have any problems with beer in Amsterdam...

I may have been in it... hit a place 1 night that had a HUGE
selection... but it's not on my regulars list.

My 2 favorites are the Cafe de Dam right off dam square on damstraat...
TINY little place but friendly....a Heineken bar... but has the bock
too... and sells enough of both that they're nice and fresh (fresh beer
is good beer) and Cafe Zwart on Spui... a little nicer but still a
friendly traditional place... CZ a lot more "dutch" the tourists flock
to Hoppe a few feet away.

I've hardly ever had a bad dutch beer... with the exception of a whit
beir(sp?) I had one time... not to be confused with a wheat beer... this
stuff was WHITE and served with fruit.

But yea... in Amsterdam I'll get whatever is on tap... a dekoning(sp?)
if they have it but otherwise whatever is on tap as the regular draft is
just fine.

I'm going to make it a point next spring to go to the IJ ? I think it
is... a brew-pub with strange hours and nowhere near a tramline... I'll
bike it.

in the UK I generally see a wider selection though I'm guessing it's
like the US and what I'm seeing is one brewery's product line... still
I'll get a pint of whatever I haven't had before... generally I like
porters and stouts and shy away from IPA type stuff.

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(Hackamore) wrote:

Gregory Morrow wrote:

Runge13 blabbles:

Well you didn't look hard enough
"Bier '33' "

I've always thought of that as
vietnamese beer

33 (Ba Moui Ba) was and is primarily a Vietnamese label, dating back to
French colonial times, but it's also produced in Alsace under license by
Heineken. Even the brewery in Vietnam is now in the hands of a Heineken
subsidiary. Due to trade restrictions, for many years only
French-production 33 was available in the US market, but beginning in
the late 1980's the Vietnamese-production stuff has also been showing up
here, though not in very large quantities.

Alan Follett

Hackamore wrote:

My 2 favorites are the Cafe de Dam right off dam square on damstraat...
TINY little place but friendly....a Heineken bar... but has the bock
too... and sells enough of both that they're nice and fresh (fresh beer
is good beer) and Cafe Zwart on Spui... a little nicer but still a
friendly traditional place... CZ a lot more "dutch" the tourists flock
to Hoppe a few feet away.

I've hardly ever had a bad dutch beer... with the exception of a whit
beir(sp?) I had one time... not to be confused with a wheat beer... this
stuff was WHITE and served with fruit.

But yea... in Amsterdam I'll get whatever is on tap... a dekoning(sp?)
if they have it but otherwise whatever is on tap as the regular draft is
just fine.

I'm going to make it a point next spring to go to the IJ ? I think it
is... a brew-pub with strange hours and nowhere near a tramline... I'll
bike it.

This one?
http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/amspubs5.htm#ij