Best 21" Rolling Carry-On

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What
about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot
REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
spine compresses with age!)

You must have missed this on Gadling-
http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/ga...-want-me-to-d/

JohnT wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Tom P wrote:


In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as
for checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"

I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
have lost as my spine compresses with age!)


The full statement on the BA website is:

"one standard-sized bag - maximum size of the bag must not exceed
56x45x25cm (22x17.5x9.85in) (including wheels, pockets and handles). In
addition, one laptop sized bag, handbag or briefcase. A 23kg(51lbs)
maximum bag weight applies and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will
assist customers with additional needs."

Oh well, I didn't realize 23 kg was that heavy - every trip to Europe
has resulted in fewer, lighter bags! Only the first time did I travel
with a solid-frame dress-bag, full-sized suit-case and twenty-inch
carry-on. I wore the formal gown to the Wiener Staatsoper only because
I had it with me, half my wardrobe I never wore at all.... (Amazing how
few "necessary" items proved to be real necessities, even allowing for
something dressy to wear to the opera!)

Well, colour me surprised. I just looked at the Air Canada website
and the maximum for a carry-on bag is now 46". That's an inch more
than a year ago so my Rick Steves RollAboard will fit . Plus I get a
personal article (36") AND a 30" purse.

I might take a 45" nylon bag instead, though, as I will just be going
to my hotel and back. If I pile all these bags up they might make a
nice footstool for my window seat.

Keri

Goomba wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
have lost as my spine compresses with age!)

You must have missed this on Gadling-
http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/ga...-want-me-to-d/


Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly
"carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I
require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated
by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel
was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I
was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist
passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses,
using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip.

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:16:30 -0300, kerilotion
wrote:

Well, colour me surprised. I just looked at the Air Canada website
and the maximum for a carry-on bag is now 46". That's an inch more
than a year ago so my Rick Steves RollAboard will fit .

How do you figure? Rick Steves RollAboard is 22" Height. Yes, the
dimensions for carry-on on Air Canada are 46" added together, but must
break down as follows:

9" x 15.5" x 21.5". Rick Steves RollAboard won't cut it.


Plus I get a
personal article (36") AND a 30" purse.

I might take a 45" nylon bag instead, though, as I will just be going
to my hotel and back. If I pile all these bags up they might make a
nice footstool for my window seat.

Keri

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


Goomba wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
have lost as my spine compresses with age!)

You must have missed this on Gadling-
http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/ga...-want-me-to-d/


Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly
"carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I
require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated
by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel
was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I
was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist
passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses,
using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip.

To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
crew will assist customers with additional needs."

Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special
needs, NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on
board and expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly
other passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case
raises the question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage
in the overhead and not under the seat?

"Tom P" wrote in message
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
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I always check all but one
clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane
(I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated by
several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel was
actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I was
under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist passengers who
require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses, using the
boarding period to catch up on their gossip.

To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
crew will assist customers with additional needs."

Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special needs,
NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on board and
expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly other
passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case raises the
question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage in the
overhead and not under the seat?

And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that
weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.

Marianne

poldy wrote:
In article ,
Tom P wrote:


Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.

B;


In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"


Most other airlines are not that generous. If you pack a laptop, you
use up most of the limit, which is around 11 kg.

AA's limit is 40 pounds.

Mimi wrote:

And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that
weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.

Marianne



If the overhead opens due to the weight of bags meeting the weight
restricitons, and someone is injured, then it would seem to be cause for
a liability claim against the carrier.

If the door can't handle 23 Kg for each bag, the airline shouldn't be
telling people they can put a 23 Kg bag there. Passengers can't be
expected to know that they are permitted to bring a 23 Kg bag, but the
door won't hold it.

mrtravel wrote:
Mimi wrote:

And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all
that weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.

Marianne


If the overhead opens due to the weight of bags meeting the weight
restricitons, and someone is injured, then it would seem to be cause for
a liability claim against the carrier.

Conversely, if the CC tells passengers to put heavy items under the seat
in front of them for safety reasons, and they disregard this
instruction, isn't the passenger liable?


If the door can't handle 23 Kg for each bag, the airline shouldn't be
telling people they can put a 23 Kg bag there. Passengers can't be
expected to know that they are permitted to bring a 23 Kg bag, but the
door won't hold it.

Or it can simply fall out when someone opens the bin. I recently
witnessed an overhead locker avalanche. The CC had stacked a pile of
glossy magazines in the bin, and then some passengers put their bags and
stuff on top of the pile. During the flight, the whole must have
shifted, because when the bin was opened, the whole lot came sliding
out. Luckily no-one got hurt, but a couple of people in their seats got
hit by flying magazines.