Paris temperatures next few days

Mike O'Sullivan writes:

Always amuses me when people persist in saying "wonderful weather",
while at the same time staggering around drenched in sweat and barely
able to function normally in temperatures in the high 80s to low 90sF,
like we had for a mercifully short period in England last year.

They haven't suffered through it enough to realize how bad it is. They
are tired of bundling up against cold weather and hot weather is a
welcome change. However, as heat becomes the norm, they'll long for the
days when they could be comfortable just by changing clothes. You can't
"bundle down" against hot weather, and European clothing norms are
designed for very chilly weather, not the hot weather to come.

I'm convinced that productivity lowers dramatically.

It does.

It's no accident that the Industrial revolution occurred in temperate
Northern zones and not in Africa or the Middle East!

Probably.

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Alan S writes:

I enjoy winter here. Predicted temperatures this week:
http://au.weather.yahoo.com/ASXX/ASXX0222/index_c.html

Wed 10-20
Thu 8-19
Fri 8-20
Sat 12-21

Where are the winter temperatures?

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On 15/06/05 13:58, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

Earl Evleth writes:

Productivity to produce what?

All forms of productivity decline in hot weather, as more and more
energy and time must be dedicated to simply keeping body temperature
down.

The question is about producing WHAT? If Americans are so
efficient, with their air conditioners, why has most of the
manufacturing been moved to China?

And people in the North dreaming of being in Polynesia, or sailing in
the more comfortable Caribbean seas.

Only because they don't _live_ in those areas, and the grass always
seems greener on the other side of the fence.

Polynesia is not known for its grass as such, except the grass skirts, which
presented interesting possibilities for some.

What do you think the mutinied for on the Bounty? After experiencing
the dancing maidens.

After experiencing a terrible captain, mainly.

It was the girls, son, believe me. Dancing in their grass skirts.

Never forget the French expression "Profiter de la vie"

Earl

On 15/06/05 14:16, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

Where are the winter temperatures?


It will be 29 and 30 this weekend here in Paris. :-)

Earl Evleth writes:

The question is about producing WHAT?

Anything. It's difficult to do any useful work in hot weather. Anyone
who believes otherwise hasn't lived in truly hot weather.

If Americans are so efficient, with their air conditioners, why
has most of the manufacturing been moved to China?

Efficiency and economy are not the same thing.

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On 15/06/05 14:11, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

Earl Evleth writes:


No, our natural environmental temperature is around 20° C.

We would not be comfortable in our natural state (no clothes) at
20-22°C. We would shiver.

But we don't walk around naked, so that is irrelevant.

But that is artificial, our physiognomy was developed at higher
temperatures. If we were meant for colder climates we have more
body hair, a lot more. Why in the hell did we develop the power
to sweat? To resist the arctic winds!

So all that is evil around us occurs when the temperature goes
below 30°C. Paradise is at the threshold of the 30s.

Violence and other crimes increase in warm weather. People get
irritable as the temperature rises and it becomes impossible to remain
comfortable.

Which is why a people from a temperate climate developed nuclear weapons
and drop them on civilians? The militarily most powerful nation is from
where? The Holocaust was the product of an over heated people from the
tropics?? And we all remember the peace loving Vikings.

Earl

On 15/06/05 14:13, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

You weren't brought up before air conditioning.

Yep, I did not see one until the 1950s, I was over 20 by then. Donna
lived in Houston in the 40s, they were virtually un known.

The fact that air conditioning existed somewhere did not mean it
was general.

Hell, son, I remember when the ice man brought ice
up the stairs for the ice box. I still call a refrigerator and
"ice box".

We did not produce heat sissies in my time.

Earl

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:06:50 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Mike O'Sullivan writes:

Not for me. My comfort zone is situated between 20C to 22C.

That's also what I prefer, when inactive, and 20° C is considered the
ideal temperature for human beings in general, at rest. Not
surprisingly, it's very close to the average temperature of the planet.

Depends what you call close. 14C.
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/bobalien99/table.htm

But it's meaningless to the discussion. Ambient where you
happen to be is somewhat more relevant. Best is somewhere
higher than the point where digits snap off and lower than
the point where they dehydrate and shrivel.

I define winter as commencing the day I wear jeans around
the house instead of shorts:-)

If I'm active, I prefer a much lower temperature, such as 10° C. For
heavy exertion, even 5° C might be preferable. Much depends on the
relative humidity, which dramatically affects the efficiency of
perspiration as a cooling device (the only really useful cooling device
that human beings have).


Cheers, Alan, Australia

On 15/06/05 14:21, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

If Americans are so efficient, with their air conditioners, why
has most of the manufacturing been moved to China?

Efficiency and economy are not the same thing.

We were talking about productivity. What are the Americans
producing, exactly? Only about 10% of the total labor now
is involved in manufacturing, 90% into services. A nation
of hamburger flippers. Europe has almost caught up in the
domain.

Earl Evleth writes:

Yep, I did not see one until the 1950s, I was over 20 by then.

Air conditioning entered use decades earlier, before you were born. It
just wasn't common in homes.

The fact that air conditioning existed somewhere did not mean it
was general.

The fact that you lived without it doesn't mean you lived before it.

Hell, son, I remember when the ice man brought ice
up the stairs for the ice box. I still call a refrigerator and
"ice box".

So do a lot of people who are far younger.

We did not produce heat sissies in my time.

I'd rather be a live sissy than a dead macho man.

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