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Old February 7th, 2004, 08:56 PM
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American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the company had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm
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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:23 PM
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"rom" wrote in message
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American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the

non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based

airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use

the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner

said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the

flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the

company had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned

to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm


Wait a minute ... perhaps the intent was to allow rational, non christians
(and atheists) to talk the christians OUT of their dubious religious
beliefs.


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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:27 PM
E.E.Bud Keith
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:56:45 +0000, rom wrote:

American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the

non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based

airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on

Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers

use the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith,

Wagner said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the

flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the

company had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just

returned to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner

said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm



Darn, I was going to post this with the header "Jebus makes pilot lose
job...claims he'll live on the love of the Lard."

And he will lose his job...can't have the mentally unstable in such a
position. I wouldn't fly on his plane, and I will send an email to AA
to that effect.

zamboni


And just what is that we call you, the guy was not harming a sole but you
compassionate liberals go for the jugular
just because you disagree with him. So he made and announcement but no one
was forced to do as he suggested. You jack ass libs are always spouting
about peace and dialogs, perhaps all he was attempting to do was create and
atmosphere in which people might talk to and learn from each other. But of
course biased people like you would not even consider that, off with his
head, right?


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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:34 PM
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In article , rom
wrote:

American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based
airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner
said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the company
had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm


One more reason not to fly.
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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:46 PM
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Great, another xtian freak just chomping at the bit to **** off the next rag
head who's bound and determined to teach a whole plane load of "infidels"
all about Allah! That little announcement would be all it would take to
push any hanky head over the edge.


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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:49 PM
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And just what is that we call you, the guy was not harming a sole

They were serving fish? Funny how a Christian would misspell such
an important word.

Would you approve if the captain was a Satanist preaching the
history of the Devil? How about if the captain was a Muslim
and started to talk about how everyone should face Mecca and
pray? Or is it only your religion that is sacrosanct?


Casey


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Old February 8th, 2004, 12:00 AM
Leon Bronstein
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:27:03 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
wrote:

And just what is that we call you, the guy was not harming a sole but you
compassionate liberals go for the jugular
just because you disagree with him. So he made and announcement but no one
was forced to do as he suggested. You jack ass libs are always spouting
about peace and dialogs, perhaps all he was attempting to do was create and
atmosphere in which people might talk to and learn from each other. But of
course biased people like you would not even consider that, off with his
head, right?


This is not an issue of injury or retribution. It's an issue of
professionalism. What if the pilot started talking about Allah and Islam?
I'm sure some passengers would have been freaked out, even if he meant no
harm. What if he started talking about NAMBLA? There are simply some
subjects that are innappropriate. If this pilot wants to go start his own
Christian airline where this behavior is prevalent, he is free to do so and
you are free to fly that airline.

No one needs to "create an atmosphere" of learning for anyone. Passengers
are already free to discuss whatever they want to.

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Old February 8th, 2004, 12:16 AM
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"Leon Bronstein" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:27:03 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
wrote:

And just what is that we call you, the guy was not harming a sole but you
compassionate liberals go for the jugular
just because you disagree with him. So he made and announcement but no

one
was forced to do as he suggested. You jack ass libs are always spouting
about peace and dialogs, perhaps all he was attempting to do was create

and
atmosphere in which people might talk to and learn from each other. But

of
course biased people like you would not even consider that, off with his
head, right?


This is not an issue of injury or retribution. It's an issue of
professionalism. What if the pilot started talking about Allah and Islam?
I'm sure some passengers would have been freaked out, even if he meant no
harm. What if he started talking about NAMBLA? There are simply some
subjects that are innappropriate. If this pilot wants to go start his own
Christian airline where this behavior is prevalent, he is free to do so

and
you are free to fly that airline.

No one needs to "create an atmosphere" of learning for anyone. Passengers
are already free to discuss whatever they want to.


Or what if he decided to come out of the closet and get on his soapbox and
start venting on his rights for gay marriage...some things should be kept
personal damn it...the ****ing religious credulists only want others to keep
quiet.


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Old February 8th, 2004, 12:17 AM
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"ZenIsWhen" wrote in message
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"rom" wrote in message
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American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York

asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the

non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based

airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on

Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers

use
the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith,

Wagner
said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the

flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the

company had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just

returned
to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner

said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm


Wait a minute ... perhaps the intent was to allow rational, non christians
(and atheists) to talk the christians OUT of their dubious religious
beliefs.


I was hoping that too until I read: "...the pilot had just returned to work
from
a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica."

Maybe he works undercover for MI-5?


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Old February 8th, 2004, 12:29 AM
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"Leon Bronstein" wrote in message
...

No one needs to "create an atmosphere" of learning for anyone. Passengers
are already free to discuss whatever they want to.

--

Oh really? Are they free to discuss hijacking the plane and flying it into
a building?

Clearly there are limits, regardless of who owns the airline. I'm sure AA
is going to take some severe heat over this one.


 




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