Johannesburg International Airport name change

Johannesburg International Airport will soon be renamed the O.R. Tambo
International Airport. The name change was announced in parliament
yesterday.

Marc

"Marc Lurie" schreef in bericht
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Johannesburg International Airport will soon be renamed the O.R. Tambo
International Airport. The name change was announced in parliament
yesterday.

Marc


From Jan Smuts to Johannesburg International Airport to Oliver Tambo Int.
Aiport to...... ?

Corné

www.amukela.com

Marc Lurie wrote:
Johannesburg International Airport will soon be renamed the O.R. Tambo
International Airport. The name change was announced in parliament
yesterday.

I am not a South African (though have visited the country and coutries
surroundig it quite a few times) but it is with pain in my heart that I
see all these name changes in South Africa. Wiping away the afrikaner
culture. You afrikaners have made this country to what it is, now all
the evidence will be wiped away.

I do hope you are not going the Zimbabwe road........

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:34:50 +0200, "Wildpicture.com"
wrote:

You afrikaners have made this country to what it is,
END QUOTE


Who exactly are you referring to as "you afrikaners"?.

The fact of the matter is that there are around 48 million people in
SA, and only about 2 million are Afrikaaners.

To applaud the apartheid regime for achieving what you percieve to be
a "great country" (my italics), is tantamount to supporting them. The
apartheid system was disgusting, exploitative, morally indefensible,
and corrupt. Any positive benefits that South Africa saw from
apartheid are dwarfed by the human misery and suffering the system
infliceted on the majority.

Yes, the current South Africa is built on the "positive" (again, my
italics) things that apartheid produced: roads, telecommunications,
banking systems, industry, mining, commerce. But EVERY advancement
made in South Africa was made at someone else's expense.

What's happening now is that the pie is now being shared more equally
among all South Africans. There is still inequality, there are still
problems, and there will be problems for a long while to come.

I'm concerned that you appear to support a group of people who ruled
by terror, opressed anyone who was not part of their select group,
made themselves pariahs in the eyes of the rest of the world,
systematically murdered and imprisoned detractors, censored the media,
waged war on neighbouring states, committed acts of savage
assasination in other countries, and destabilised the entire region by
war and economics.

You must remember that EVERYTHING that this country was in 1994 was a
result of the apartheid regime, not just the "good" stuff. The regime
is GUILTY of creating a whole nation of non-educated people, GUILTY of
creating a labour force in the western Cape that is enslaved by
alcohol, GUILTY of ensuring and encouraging tribal friction because of
the "divide and conquer" theory, GUILTY of putting a viable workforce
so far away from a place of work that they spend the majority of their
wages simply getting to work thus ensuring that they are ensnared in a
debt trap, GUILTY of fomenting racial differences, GUILTY of
destabilising the entire region and ensuring that countries like
Mozabique and Angola were kept ungovernable, etc. etc. etc.

Marc.

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:29:44 +0200, "Corné" wrote:


From Jan Smuts to Johannesburg International Airport to Oliver Tambo Int.
Aiport to...... ?

Corné

www.amukela.com

Well, for one thing, Johannesburg International Airport isn't actually
in Johannesburg, so the name is a misnomer to start with.

Moreover, while I'm not equating Jan Smuts with him, I'm sure that
you'd agree that the Adolf Hitler Airport would need to be renamed.
The motivation is exactly the same, even if the specific reasons are
different.

I'm not in favour of the new name for the airport, but I respect the
fact that the renaming procedure involved public participation to an
extent never before seen in this country.

Personally I wouldn't have minded the name to remain Jo'burg
International (in spite of the contradiction previously mentioned...),
and if it had to be changed, I'd have preferred a more neutrally
charged name.

Marc

Great words Marc!

Hans is on a 'slippery road' with his view and alleged sympaty to the
Afrikaners...

Marc,

just a few things.

1. I am not giving any support for apartheid!
2. I do not want to go into politics.

Maybe I have used the term Afrikaner too broadly. Some white english
speaking people in SA may feel that they are not afrikaners (true), but
of course they have been just as much part in the apartheid in the past.
Now trying to just blame it one the afrikaners and saying: "it was not
me" is of course BS.

What I meant with my initial remark is that South Africa is very
different from any other country in Africa. The basic infrastructure
(both in terms of roads, telephone, electricity etc as well as banking,
business laws etc) is equal to europan or american standards. Things
just work. In that SA is a great exception to the rest of Africa. Just
be proud of that and hope that you won´t let the country slide down to
Zimbabwe level.

Afrikaners are part of SA history and culture. I am not saying an
airport should be named after a "boer" general. Not at all! I am just
saying that wiping out all references to those who have built so much of
the country is just sad. All cultures should exist alongside.

When will Johannesburg´s name change......?
What will Cape Town´s new name be.......?

Regards,
Hans


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Hans Martens

Wildlife & Nature Photography
http://www.wildpicture.com
http://www.wildpicture.nl
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Hans Schoelink wrote:
Great words Marc!
Hans is on a 'slippery road' with his view and alleged sympaty to the
Afrikaners...

You are putting things in my mouth I have not said. Do not project any
symphaties on people you don´t know!



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Hans Martens

Wildlife & Nature Photography
http://www.wildpicture.com
http://www.wildpicture.nl
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Point taken. Thanks for clearing this issue. End of discussion as far as i'm
concerned.

Reg. Hans Schoelink

I am not a South African (though have visited the country and coutries
surroundig it quite a few times) but it is with pain in my heart that I
see all these name changes in South Africa. Wiping away the afrikaner
culture.

The afrikaner culture won't be wept away by same name changes, nor does this
happen with the colored, indian, venda or shangane culture.

You afrikaners have made this country to what it is, now all
the evidence will be wiped away.

The afrikaners could never done this without the cheap (black and coloured)
labour. So who did what in the end?


I do hope you are not going the Zimbabwe road........

I agree!

Corné.

www.amukela.com