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Int'l driving permit
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:48:52 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich
wrote: Am Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:50:37 +0200 schrieb Tom P: On 07/06/2013 05:59 AM, Király wrote: I will be driving my father-in-law's Hungarian-registerd car around Hungary and Croatia soon. I have a British Columbia (Canada) driver's license. I know that IDPs are "accpeted" in those countries but is the IDP really needed anymore? If the police stop me will they hassle me if I don't have one? An IDP (or IDL) is simply a translation of the driver's license. Strictly speaking it has no legal value, only your original driver's license counts. Right, an with a Canadian licence that doesn't make much sense, as the Canadian licence is already in English, so no need for translation (the IDP translates into english, french an Russian I think). I would assume that a Hungarian oder Croatian policeman knows enough english to figure out the original licence without an IDP. It's more useful when your original licence is in some exotic language that is not understood in many countries. I believe the Finns will accept any valid license so long as it is in Roman characters... |
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On 2013-07-08 04:46:51 -0500, Martin said:
Some hire car companies say that you need one. No hire car companies have ever asked me for one anywhere. When I visited Sicily, I offered the IDL I specifically got for this purpose, and the rental car agent looked at it askance and asked for my regular DL! -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070819033614784-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-08 04:46:51 -0500, Martin said: Some hire car companies say that you need one. No hire car companies have ever asked me for one anywhere. When I visited Sicily, I offered the IDL I specifically got for this purpose, and the rental car agent looked at it askance and asked for my regular DL! that's because the IDL is worthless without it. It isn't a replacement license, it's a supplement tim |
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:00:33 +0100, tim..... wrote:
"Irwell" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:25:02 +0000 (UTC), Király wrote: tim..... wrote: (the IDP translates into english, french an Russian) Spanish, Italian, Arabic, German, one of the Chinese scripts and Japanese (I think) Also Swedish and Portuguese. I know what it is and what it does. I know it's "accepted" in HU and HR. I just wonder if it's needed in my case. I think I'll get one anyway. Just make your own, east to do with ONline Translators like Google. if it's not obviously "official" why would the other party accept it? It could say any old rubbish, couldn't it Yes, it could. But what is 'offcial', the triple AAA is just an Automobile Association, not a Governement Agency. Just curmudgeon an official stamp and place it on the IDL, issued by the Tim IDL Issuing Office. TIIO. |
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On 2013-07-09 05:26:56 -0500, tim..... said:
"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070819033614784-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-08 04:46:51 -0500, Martin said: Some hire car companies say that you need one. No hire car companies have ever asked me for one anywhere. When I visited Sicily, I offered the IDL I specifically got for this purpose, and the rental car agent looked at it askance and asked for my regular DL! that's because the IDL is worthless without it. It isn't a replacement license, it's a supplement tim My point was that the IDL was unnecessary. I haven't bothered, since. -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070919110093651-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-09 05:26:56 -0500, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070819033614784-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-08 04:46:51 -0500, Martin said: Some hire car companies say that you need one. No hire car companies have ever asked me for one anywhere. When I visited Sicily, I offered the IDL I specifically got for this purpose, and the rental car agent looked at it askance and asked for my regular DL! that's because the IDL is worthless without it. It isn't a replacement license, it's a supplement tim My point was that the IDL was unnecessary. I haven't bothered, since. Just because no-one bothered with it on one (or more) occasion(s) doesn't mean that the next person wont tim |
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On 2013-07-10 03:46:27 -0500, tim..... said:
"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070919110093651-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-09 05:26:56 -0500, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070819033614784-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-08 04:46:51 -0500, Martin said: Some hire car companies say that you need one. No hire car companies have ever asked me for one anywhere. When I visited Sicily, I offered the IDL I specifically got for this purpose, and the rental car agent looked at it askance and asked for my regular DL! that's because the IDL is worthless without it. It isn't a replacement license, it's a supplement tim My point was that the IDL was unnecessary. I haven't bothered, since. Just because no-one bothered with it on one (or more) occasion(s) doesn't mean that the next person wont tim Then by all mean whoever is worried about being asked for one should do as I did: got through the hassle of getting it, and never bring it on a second trip. A more helpful reply would be citing where you know it will be required. -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013071021174235470-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-10 03:46:27 -0500, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070919110093651-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-09 05:26:56 -0500, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2013070819033614784-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2013-07-08 04:46:51 -0500, Martin said: Some hire car companies say that you need one. No hire car companies have ever asked me for one anywhere. When I visited Sicily, I offered the IDL I specifically got for this purpose, and the rental car agent looked at it askance and asked for my regular DL! that's because the IDL is worthless without it. It isn't a replacement license, it's a supplement tim My point was that the IDL was unnecessary. I haven't bothered, since. Just because no-one bothered with it on one (or more) occasion(s) doesn't mean that the next person wont tim Then by all mean whoever is worried about being asked for one should do as I did: got through the hassle of getting it, and never bring it on a second trip. A more helpful reply would be citing where you know it will be required. There's no answer to that question. It's required when the official that you are dealing with decides to do things completely by the book. How can I (or anyone) possible predict that? I'm not talking the situation where people get one without first checking that a particular country requires it for their DL type. I'm talking about the anecdotal evidence given here, that even when a country does officially require one, no-one ever checks. You simply cannot rely on that advice, it may be you who gets stopped by the jobsworth! tim |
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Int'l driving permit
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:17:42 -0500, Dan Stephenson
wrote: Then by all mean whoever is worried about being asked for one should do as I did: got through the hassle of getting it, and never bring it on a second trip. A more helpful reply would be citing where you know it will be required. You'll certainly need one in India. But the only place foreign tourists rent vehicles is Goa where rented motorcycles are common. Everywhere else the traffic is lethal and rented cars usually come with a driver... |
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On 11/07/2013 5:18 AM, tim..... wrote:
My point was that the IDL was unnecessary. I haven't bothered, since. Just because no-one bothered with it on one (or more) occasion(s) doesn't mean that the next person wont tim Then by all mean whoever is worried about being asked for one should do as I did: got through the hassle of getting it, and never bring it on a second trip. A more helpful reply would be citing where you know it will be required. There's no answer to that question. It's required when the official that you are dealing with decides to do things completely by the book. That about sums it up. An IDL is meaningless on its own. It serves only as a translation of your home jurisdiction diver license. And FWIW I worked in commercial vehicle enforcement and I had no training on IDLs. They were not mentioned in our policy and procedures manual. It's usually a safe bet that anyone driving a car and has a license to drive has the proper license for a car. IDLs serve to translate the information that is displayed on the driver license and explains the class indicated. How can I (or anyone) possible predict that? I'm not talking the situation where people get one without first checking that a particular country requires it for their DL type. I'm talking about the anecdotal evidence given here, that even when a country does officially require one, no-one ever checks. You simply cannot rely on that advice, it may be you who gets stopped by the jobsworth! My anecdotal input is that I got one once for a trip to Europe. When I picked up the rental car they wanted to see my driver license but never bothered with my IDL. The next time I rented a car over there I didn't bother to get one (they are only valid for one year here). No one asked for it. In fact, we had booked the rental through a travel agent here and he said nothing about needing one. Since vehicle owners can be held liable for some offences committed by a person driving their vehicle, and they do check your driver license, I am assuming that if an IDL were actually required, they would ask. Personally, if I were renting a car in western Europe again, I would not bother getting the IDL. |
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