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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
"Martin" wrote in message ... That's a very good summary of the situation. Expect a call from Gordon later in the day. For a variety of reasons, mainly to do with a 'former life', when I worked, no chance... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
On 25 jun, 14:39, "William Black" wrote:
France and Germany don't want Turkey in the EC, mainly because a Muslim state would scupper the idea of a 'United States of Europe' forever. A Muslim state? Surely Turkey is a secular state? :-) B; |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
On 25 jun, 14:30, Martin wrote:
If there was a referendum in UK, I doubt if a majority would support UK being in the EU, never mind anybody else joining the EU. Precisely why there has never been a referendum? B; |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:42:18 +0100, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Martin wrote: [] Almost everything I see on the subject on Internet emanating from UK is anti EU. Which is pretty irrelevant. In what way? If UK was fairly evenly divided on the subject I would expect a mix of opinions being expressed. The mistake is expecting everything you see on the subject on the Internet to reflect balance, or public opinion. Complaining about the EU is one thing- voting to withdraw from it quite another. Given that a third of the UK thinks the EU is a 'good thing' and almost everything I read is pretty negative on the Internet, it's clear to me that the Internet is not a haven of balance. Besides, I think the EU has always been something in the UK which the complainers have made the most noise about. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
On 25 jun, 14:49, "William Black" wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message ... Almost everything I see on the subject on Internet emanating from UK is anti EU. Odd that isn't it. Because everyone you talk to is all in favour of joining the Euro, getting rid of passport controls to Europe and all the rest of it. Martin was talking about internet users. You are talking about Daily Mail readers. B; |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
On 25 jun, 14:57, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:51:08 -0700, wrote: On 25 jun, 14:39, "William Black" wrote: France and Germany don't want Turkey in the EC, mainly because a Muslim state would scupper the idea of a 'United States of Europe' forever. A Muslim state? Surely Turkey is a secular state? :-) Not by the time the EU have finished 'kin about. Radical Islam in Turkey is the EU's fault? And there's me thinking that the banana bendy-ness laws were whacky!! B; |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
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On 25 jun, 14:30, Martin wrote: If there was a referendum in UK, I doubt if a majority would support UK being in the EU, never mind anybody else joining the EU. Precisely why there has never been a referendum? Sure there was- 1975, and it got 67% support. If there was a referendum on the euro however, it would be voted down, and I'd be among the no voters. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:44:05 +0100, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: [] Spain and Portugal are hardly newer EU states, and their support isn't far behind the UK. Turkey lost some of my support by charging me more for a "visa" than they charged my wife. I hadn't realised I'd need a visa to go, never mind pay for one. That would put me off going. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey
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On 25 jun, 14:49, "William Black" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message ... Almost everything I see on the subject on Internet emanating from UK is anti EU. Odd that isn't it. Because everyone you talk to is all in favour of joining the Euro, getting rid of passport controls to Europe and all the rest of it. Martin was talking about internet users. You are talking about Daily Mail readers. There may not be a lot of difference. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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