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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
"bearman" wrote in message . .. You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. Spoken like a true liberal....and a true idiot. But wait, I repeat myself.... You have no idea what my political views are so why don't you just grow the **** up. Bye-Bye. And based upon your reaction and language, I hit a nerve. The old adage "If it walks like a duck..." certainly applies here. Only a liberal would say "there are no rules".... Bye Bye to you...you won't be missed. Honu |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
Hertz Dount wrote:
Only a liberal would say "there are no rules".... True. A conservative will acknowledge that the rules exist, but insist that they don’t apply to him. |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
Hertz Dount wrote: "George Graves" wrote in message .net... On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:42:56 -0700, none wrote (in article ): James Davis wrote: Right now about 30% of Americans are very happy with President Bush, who was elected by a 51% majority. incorrect, Gore won the election by the "majority" of the american public, only in how the electoral college is setup did, bush sneak in. While I personally believe he's a moron, there is no rule that says it's undemocratic for a president to only please 30% of the population. duh! but it's unprecedented to have such a poor performing president in american history. Unprecedented, it might be. Illegal, it is not. Robert Bolt once wrote a play called "A man for all Seasons" in which Sir Thomas Moore, Chancelor of England was having a philosophical argument with his daughter's fiance, a young lawyer named Roper about an unwanted house guest who had just left: *Roper: Sir Thomas, arrest that man, he is bad. Sir Thomas: On what charge? Roper: Charge? He's evil. Sir Thomas: There's no law against that. Daughter: While you two argue, he's gone. Sir Thomas: And go he should, until he's broken the law. Roper: I suppose now that you would give the Devil the benefit of the law? Sir Thomas: Wouldn't you? Roper: NO. I'd cut down every law in England to get after the Devil. Sir Thomas: And with the laws all cut down, and the Devil turned 'round upon you, Where would you hide then, young Roper; the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, God's laws and man's and if we cut them down to go after ANY Devil, who could stand in the wind that would then blow?Yes, I'd give the Devil the benefit of the law, FOR MY OWN SAFETY'S SAKE! *This is paraphrased from memory, I don't have the text handy, but this is the gist of the conversation Sage words, and worth remembering. Bush is the worst president in US history, yet go he should until he breaks the law, and we cannot circumvent the law just to rid ourselves of a terrible leader. If we do, we'll have more serious problems that simply a bad president. Also, we need to be careful that we don't elect a worse one simply because the candidate isn't George Bush. I'm very afraid that we might just do that. Well spoken. I shudder at the thought of an amateur like Obama or a vacilator like Billary gaining office. You should shutter that this Inept and Criminally Negligent Admin has allowed Al Quadia to rebuild to a strength they achieved before 9/11. Of all the complete fukk ups these people have done, this is the MOST DANGEROUS and negligent of all, and all the lives lost going after someone who was no threat to us. But the ones who actually attacked us are free and have rebuilt. If this Iraq War and allowing Al Quadia rebuild to pre 9/11 strength was a Dem there would be impeachments flying all over Washington and the NeoCONS would be screaming out of every window in Washington. Fukkin shameful. You are worried about "amateurs"?!?! OMG the people could only wish to be amateur. They are utterly inept and a grave danger to our country and our lives our civil rights, to our national treasure, and our standing in the world.. Again fukkin shameful. Any life lost to Al Quadia in the future will be squarely on the shoulders of the Bush Admin. Honu There could be some time in the future where angering 70% of the population is the right thing to do. If you had to please the majority of people, then we wouldn't even elect presidents. We would just vote on issues and the majority vote would decide what to do. It would be unfair to the 30% of Americans who like Bush to impeach him unless he has done something illegal. He won the vote, so he is the president. Besides, he doesn't have any power to do anything that 70% of Congress disagrees with. If his actions are so bad, they can be democratically overridden by others. You can't just do away with the rules of democracy because they are giving you the results you want. -- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
Sam Spade wrote: Clinton didn't pardon/commute anyone who was going after him, did he? There is a difference. But do I remember at least one of Clinton's was a flat out crook, right? And should of never got pardoned. My comment was nonspecific. Both Clinton a Reagan pardoened people for political/personal reasons who shouldn't have been pardoned. This Scooter deal is so transparent. Cheney calls the shots on everything, and especially on this one. Shooting that old man in the face, then refusing to be interviewed by the Sheriff for 24 hours was too. Makers Mark and a firearm don't mix. Especially when you are prone to shoot anything that moves anyway. Then add to the mix that disgusting, sadistic cage hunt. Shooting planted birds. Frikkin Creepy and Sick man. -- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
Hertz Dount wrote: "bearman" wrote in message ... "Hertz Dount" wrote in message news:eLudnVyQpeF4sQvbnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@hawaiiante l.net... "Sparrow" wrote in message roups.com... Read all about it, he http://Muvy.org You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. Spoken like a true liberal....and a true idiot. But wait, I repeat myself.... Look around where the NeoCONS have us after 7 years...................... Oh yea, that smell is............... someone hasn't cleaned the toilet we find our country, our place in the world, our rights, our credibility and our national treasure in. Honu -- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:07:01 -0400, "Richard"
wrote: Clinton was Impeached (a Constitutional term equal to indited Congress). Congress then failed in the vote to remove him from office. More specifically, as required by the Constitution, he was impeached by the House of Representatives and then the Senate failed to convict. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:12:11 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote: Hatunen wrote: Apparently you know that, which sets you above the masses :-) How do the people vote "no confidence" in an administration in the Westminster system other than throwing the administration's party out at the next scheduled election? There is a vote of confidence in Parliament. If the ruling party loses the vote the leader approaches the Crown to dissolve Parliament and call a new election. Not exactly the same as "the people can vote "no confidence" to a sitting administration", is it? Which was the point I was trying to make. How very astute of you. That was exactly the point I made to George Graves when he commented that the British people can vote "no confidence" to a sitting administration and I pointed out that vote it taken by Parliament, not by the people. "Great minds [etc]" -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:37:01 -0600, "bearman"
wrote: "Hertz Dount" wrote in message news:eLudnVyQpeF4sQvbnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@hawaiiantel .net... "Sparrow" wrote in message ps.com... Read all about it, he http://Muvy.org You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. Close, but no cigar. The House has to say it's "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors". -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
On 2007-07-12 09:31:47 -0400, "Hertz Dount" said:
"none" wrote in message ... G-squared wrote: You can't just do away with the rules of democracy because they are giving you the results you want. Perhaps you remember the 2004 election where he did indeed get 51% of the popular vote. but we'll never know that for sure.... Wow! There are still idiots crying because they think Gore should have been elected. In 2004? What alternative universe do you live in? (don't I wish) |
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39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.
On 2007-07-12 09:33:48 -0400, "Hertz Dount" said:
I shudder at the thought of an amateur like Obama or a vacilator like Billary gaining office. Somehow, I can't see how any Democrat in the field could possibly be worse than the last few Republicans. |
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