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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses pressquestions
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: Bert Hyman wrote in news:Xns9D7DB4D8EFABFVeebleFetzer@ 216.250.188.140: In . 130 Mitchell Holman wrote: Is the president supposed to hold a press conference everytime he signs a bill? Since he hardly ever has real press conferences (with questions), that would be a good start. No, he just goes to Republican retreats and spends an hour taking questions from his toughest critics - and on live TV, no less. But since reporters were not the ones asking questions it doesn't count, I guess. Town meetings are not press conferences, no, they aren't, Holman. If Obama holds a press conference he is "pandering to the liberal media". Is that a quote from me? I doubt it. I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. Repost for ANY post of yours complaining about Bush when he set the record for the fewest press conference in a presidential term. "President George W. Bush held the fewest first- term press conferences in modern presidential history." Really? So he had fewer than his father and Jimmy Carter and Ron Reagan? "Bush has held the fewest news conferences of any President since Franklin D. Roosevelt launched the forum for give-and- take with reporters in 1933." http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...4/ai_n9399045/ http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...acy_press.html Another of your famous Double Standards, perhaps? Cite where I said that Bush should have had fewer press conferences than he did. Put that right here ------ You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ The only way it seems that Bill can get out of the many awkward situations he finds himself in is to declare that one has posted a statement that one has NOT posted. He criticised Obama for not holding enough press conferences, you pointed out that Bush held hardly any so he asks for a cite where he has said that Bush should have had *fewer* press conferences. Not only has he lost himself completely, a common failing, he tells a flat lie when he implies that you made such a request. |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refusespressquestions
John Rennie wrote: Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: Bert Hyman wrote in news:Xns9D7DB4D8EFABFVeebleFetzer@ 216.250.188.140: In . 130 Mitchell Holman wrote: Is the president supposed to hold a press conference everytime he signs a bill? Since he hardly ever has real press conferences (with questions), that would be a good start. No, he just goes to Republican retreats and spends an hour taking questions from his toughest critics - and on live TV, no less. But since reporters were not the ones asking questions it doesn't count, I guess. Town meetings are not press conferences, no, they aren't, Holman. If Obama holds a press conference he is "pandering to the liberal media". Is that a quote from me? I doubt it. I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. Repost for ANY post of yours complaining about Bush when he set the record for the fewest press conference in a presidential term. "President George W. Bush held the fewest first- term press conferences in modern presidential history." Really? So he had fewer than his father and Jimmy Carter and Ron Reagan? "Bush has held the fewest news conferences of any President since Franklin D. Roosevelt launched the forum for give-and- take with reporters in 1933." http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...4/ai_n9399045/ http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...acy_press.html Another of your famous Double Standards, perhaps? Cite where I said that Bush should have had fewer press conferences than he did. Put that right here ------ You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ The only way it seems that Bill can get out of the many awkward situations he finds himself in Can you *ever* stop making things up about me? Find any awkward situation I'm in in this group and put it right here ----- is to declare that one has posted a statement that one has NOT posted. He criticised Obama for not holding enough press conferences, you pointed out that Bush held hardly any so he asks for a cite where he has said that Bush should have had *fewer* press conferences. Not only has he lost himself completely, a common failing, he tells a flat lie when he implies that you made such a request. The person who is lying here is you. I said the following: #begin quote requote not cut ME Town meetings are not press conferences, no, they aren't, Holman. .... Is that a quote from me? I doubt it. I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. .... Really? So he had fewer than his father and Jimmy Carter and Ron Reagan? #end quote So where did I question Obama and not all other presidents? I didn't. OTOH, as is well know and ignored by you, ever time when Bush was president, and someone mentioned Clinton's policy or actions in relation to other presidents, Holman claimed that since Clinton wasn't president at that time, he was off limits. That same rule should apply to Bush right now. It's not a defence for Obama that Bush didn't have enough press conferences. Oh, and BTW, my last comment in the #quoted material isn't saying that Bush Jr didn't have fewer press conferences in his first term than those presidents, as the dishonest arse Holman pretends in his reply, it's seeking to limit the presidents he's making a claim about, when he used "modern". |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses pressquestions
Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: Bert Hyman wrote in news:Xns9D7DB4D8EFABFVeebleFetzer@ 216.250.188.140: In . 130 Mitchell Holman wrote: Is the president supposed to hold a press conference everytime he signs a bill? Since he hardly ever has real press conferences (with questions), that would be a good start. No, he just goes to Republican retreats and spends an hour taking questions from his toughest critics - and on live TV, no less. But since reporters were not the ones asking questions it doesn't count, I guess. Town meetings are not press conferences, no, they aren't, Holman. If Obama holds a press conference he is "pandering to the liberal media". Is that a quote from me? I doubt it. I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. Repost for ANY post of yours complaining about Bush when he set the record for the fewest press conference in a presidential term. "President George W. Bush held the fewest first- term press conferences in modern presidential history." Really? So he had fewer than his father and Jimmy Carter and Ron Reagan? "Bush has held the fewest news conferences of any President since Franklin D. Roosevelt launched the forum for give-and- take with reporters in 1933." Does this claim include Obama? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...4/ai_n9399045/ Put the URL above the quote. http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...acy_press.html Another of your famous Double Standards, perhaps? Cite where I said that Bush should have had fewer press conferences than he did. Put that right here ------ You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ You are lying again. What rant? This is what I actually said, which is entirely balanced and fair to Obama and other presidents: #begin quote ME I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. #end quote -- "It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.", Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981) |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses press questions
"Bill Bonde {''It's the last great adventure left to mankind'')"
wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: Bert Hyman wrote in news:Xns9D7DB4D8EFABFVeebleFetzer@ 216.250.188.140: In . 130 Mitchell Holman wrote: Is the president supposed to hold a press conference everytime he signs a bill? Since he hardly ever has real press conferences (with questions), that would be a good start. No, he just goes to Republican retreats and spends an hour taking questions from his toughest critics - and on live TV, no less. But since reporters were not the ones asking questions it doesn't count, I guess. Town meetings are not press conferences, no, they aren't, Holman. If Obama holds a press conference he is "pandering to the liberal media". Is that a quote from me? I doubt it. I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. Repost for ANY post of yours complaining about Bush when he set the record for the fewest press conference in a presidential term. "President George W. Bush held the fewest first- term press conferences in modern presidential history." Really? So he had fewer than his father and Jimmy Carter and Ron Reagan? "Bush has held the fewest news conferences of any President since Franklin D. Roosevelt launched the forum for give-and- take with reporters in 1933." Does this claim include Obama? OBama isn't even halfway thru his first term, Bonde. Fact remains you said nothing about Bush's demonstrated hostility to press conferences but are suddenly concerned that Obama isn't holding enough. Why is that, do you think? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...4/ai_n9399045/ Put the URL above the quote. I don't need to take lessons in proof from someone who never posts any. And someone who BRAGS about deleting it unread when it proves him wrong. "I don't read links before deleting them." Bill Bonde, admitting he simply deletes the proof that proves him wrong, 7/7/08 |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses pressquestions
Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {''It's the last great adventure left to mankind'')" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote: Bert Hyman wrote in news:Xns9D7DB4D8EFABFVeebleFetzer@ 216.250.188.140: In . 130 Mitchell Holman wrote: Is the president supposed to hold a press conference everytime he signs a bill? Since he hardly ever has real press conferences (with questions), that would be a good start. No, he just goes to Republican retreats and spends an hour taking questions from his toughest critics - and on live TV, no less. But since reporters were not the ones asking questions it doesn't count, I guess. Town meetings are not press conferences, no, they aren't, Holman. If Obama holds a press conference he is "pandering to the liberal media". Is that a quote from me? I doubt it. I think he should have regular press conferences. I know that many presidents didn't do that exactly because they didn't want to take the public opinion hit for it, or perceived hit, but not doing it might also hurt. And I think that standing up to the questions is part of the job. Repost for ANY post of yours complaining about Bush when he set the record for the fewest press conference in a presidential term. "President George W. Bush held the fewest first- term press conferences in modern presidential history." Really? So he had fewer than his father and Jimmy Carter and Ron Reagan? "Bush has held the fewest news conferences of any President since Franklin D. Roosevelt launched the forum for give-and- take with reporters in 1933." Does this claim include Obama? OBama isn't even halfway thru his first term, Bonde. Don't remind me. Fact remains you said nothing about Bush's demonstrated hostility to press conferences Is that true? I've never said anything about bush and press conferences? but are suddenly concerned that Obama isn't holding enough. Why is that, do you think? I think I was replying to you. I wasn't suddenly concerned out of the blue. And, note, I made the same statement about all presidents, I said it was part of the job. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...4/ai_n9399045/ Put the URL above the quote. I don't need to take lessons in proof from someone who never posts any. You mean you. And someone who BRAGS about deleting it unread when it proves him wrong. You keep making this claim and you know you are lying when you make the claim. "I don't read links before deleting them." Bill Bonde, admitting he simply deletes the proof that proves him wrong, 7/7/08 This is not what I said, Holman. You have stripped the context from the quote to utterly change the meaning and this has repeatedly been explained to you. You don't care. This is why I call you a liar. -- BP is getting such good ratings on the Live Oil Leak Video Channel that they are thinking of adding commercials and letting the spill continue for a few more seasons. "This show has legs like 'LOST'", said one ebullient ad exec. |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses press questions
On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:19:25 +0100, John Rennie
wrote: The only way it seems that Bill can get out of the many awkward situations he finds himself in is to declare that one has posted a statement that one has NOT posted. He criticised Obama for not holding enough press conferences, you pointed out that Bush held hardly any so he asks for a cite where he has said that Bush should have had *fewer* press conferences. Not only has he lost himself completely, a common failing, he tells a flat lie when he implies that you made such a request. Obama said he would have the most open and transparent administration in history. The bar isn't who had the fewest press conferences. It is the MOST press conferences. And it isn't just press conferences. It is who he and the administration is meeting with. Appearing once before the Republican meeting since last July definitely doesn't meet the standard he promised he would meet. |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses press questions
On Fri, 21 May 2010 07:35:19 -0500, Mitchell Holman
wrote: You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ Since these rants appear in various forms, I'll repeat the same post. Obama said he would have the most open and transparent administration in history. The bar isn't who had the fewest press conferences. It is the MOST press conferences. And it isn't just press conferences. It is who he and the administration is meeting with. Appearing once before the Republican meeting since last July definitely doesn't meet the standard he promised he would meet. |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses pressquestions
Brian wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2010 07:35:19 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote: You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ Since these rants appear in various forms, I'll repeat the same post. Obama said he would have the most open and transparent administration in history. The bar isn't who had the fewest press conferences. It is the MOST press conferences. And it isn't just press conferences. It is who he and the administration is meeting with. Appearing once before the Republican meeting since last July definitely doesn't meet the standard he promised he would meet. He lied. But Holman likes that. -- BP is getting such good ratings on the Live Oil Leak Video Channel that they are thinking of adding commercials and letting the spill continue for a few more seasons. "This show has legs like 'LOST'", said one ebullient ad exec. |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses press questions
"Brian" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 May 2010 07:35:19 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote: You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ Since these rants appear in various forms, I'll repeat the same post. Obama said he would have the most open and transparent administration in history. The bar isn't who had the fewest press conferences. It is the MOST press conferences. And it isn't just press conferences. It is who he and the administration is meeting with. Appearing once before the Republican meeting since last July definitely doesn't meet the standard he promised he would meet. Hey asshole, just because you ****heads, and other assorted hillbilly dip****s imply something, that doesn;t make it fact; " Obama said he would have the most open and transparent administration in history" prove he hasn't you peckerhead rednecked retard, so, like who did that fat cocksucker cheney have at his oil industry meeting ? |
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CBSNews: Obama signs press freedom act -- then refuses press questions
"Bill Bonde {''It's the last great adventure left to mankind'')" wrote in message ... Brian wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2010 07:35:19 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote: You rant about Obama not holding enough press conferences but obviously didn't mind when Bush held even fewer. Sheesh................ Since these rants appear in various forms, I'll repeat the same post. Obama said he would have the most open and transparent administration in history. The bar isn't who had the fewest press conferences. It is the MOST press conferences. And it isn't just press conferences. It is who he and the administration is meeting with. Appearing once before the Republican meeting since last July definitely doesn't meet the standard he promised he would meet. He lied. But Holman likes that. prove he lied gomer, you retarded hillbillies have nothing but lies and bull**** |
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