Bewa Turkey travel experience

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:30:44 +0300, the renowned "Markku Grönroos"
wrote:

Two evils? heh heh. Would you be worried about fees after the abolished
practice of train seat overbooking. You preferred to stand on a corridor
because it is cheaper. Moreover, how do you know re-routing an air
passenger is a cheaper procedure than giving him a seat in flight printed
on
his ticket ?

What about all the passengers who don't bother showing up for their
flight?

They have paid for their empty seat. What about train passengers who don't
bother to show up?

"Peter L" wrote in message
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"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
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"Peter L" wrote in message
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"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
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"Peter L" wrote in message
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Well, OK. But hotels (and airlines too) overbook sometimes. And
sometimes
they make it up by booking you at another hotel. It's not a
pleasant
experience but it happens in all cities and all countries, not
limited
to
Turkey.

Overbooking aircraft seats is a nasty policy (it is quite
intentional).
The
EU parliament is supposed to pass a law in near future to improve
customers
rights against such despotism.


Well, great. Air tickets will rise in prices. So which is the lesser
of
two evils?

Two evils? heh heh. Would you be worried about fees after the abolished
practice of train seat overbooking. You preferred to stand on a corridor
because it is cheaper. Moreover, how do you know re-routing an air
passenger is a cheaper procedure than giving him a seat in flight
printed
on
his ticket ?


Exactly. So you picked the lesser (in your mind) or two evils, higher
prices. Others may not feel the same. There is no free lunch.


I don't see higher prices as an inevitable tendency.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:56:22 GMT, the renowned Thomas F. Unke
wrote:

"Peter L" writes:


Exactly. So you picked the lesser (in your mind) or two evils, higher
prices. Others may not feel the same. There is no free lunch.


You seem to believe that higher profits cause lower prices. Some
reading on economics may help you.

Who do you think will pay for added costs imposed by government? The
shareholders? VBG

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"Thomas F. Unke" wrote in message
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"Peter L" writes:


Exactly. So you picked the lesser (in your mind) or two evils, higher
prices. Others may not feel the same. There is no free lunch.


You seem to believe that higher profits cause lower prices. Some
reading on economics may help you.


No I believe lower profits cause higher prices. Some reading on how to read
may help you.

"Thomas F. Unke" wrote in message
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"Peter L" writes:


No I believe lower profits cause higher prices.

Believing is no substitute for knowledge.

Hint: keeping a contract is a basic principle of a modern
economy. Those who think they can deliberately break a contract just
for a quick buck extra don't cause lower prices, but add to the
decline of the economic standards.


Then maybe you should read your ticket to see where they've broken the
contract. Seems like a fertile place for a lawsuit.

On a scale of 1 to 10 - 1!

I don't think the Human Rights Commission will take action over this one!!!




"Leslie" wrote in message
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I wanted to let other travellers know of a very unpleasant experience

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:56:22 GMT, the renowned Thomas F. Unke
wrote:

"Peter L" writes:


Exactly. So you picked the lesser (in your mind) or two evils, higher
prices. Others may not feel the same. There is no free lunch.


You seem to believe that higher profits cause lower prices. Some
reading on economics may help you.

Who do you think will pay for added costs imposed by government? The
shareholders? VBG

What added costs ?

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:59:10 +0300, the renowned "Markku Grönroos"
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:56:22 GMT, the renowned Thomas F. Unke
wrote:

"Peter L" writes:


Exactly. So you picked the lesser (in your mind) or two evils, higher
prices. Others may not feel the same. There is no free lunch.


You seem to believe that higher profits cause lower prices. Some
reading on economics may help you.

Who do you think will pay for added costs imposed by government? The
shareholders? VBG

What added costs ?

Of flying every plane with empty seats to make 99.9% sure that there
is a seat for all passengers, of course.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
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What added costs ?

Of flying every plane with empty seats to make 99.9% sure that there
is a seat for all passengers, of course.

People have paid for the seats whether they occupy them or not. What about
you go to movies with a reserved and prepaid ticket and an usher turns you
down telling that all the seats are taken due to over booking (it is assumed
that some people don't show up anyways) and ask you to come back another
night.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:06:17 +0300, the renowned "Markku Grönroos"
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
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What added costs ?

Of flying every plane with empty seats to make 99.9% sure that there
is a seat for all passengers, of course.

People have paid for the seats whether they occupy them or not. What about
you go to movies with a reserved and prepaid ticket and an usher turns you
down telling that all the seats are taken due to over booking (it is assumed
that some people don't show up anyways) and ask you to come back another
night.

All tickets are not non-refundable discount cattle fare. If the person
with a refundable ticket doesn't show up the airline gets no money for
that bumless seat as they must provide transportation later.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
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