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The Reid wrote:
Following up to (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Is he worried about "violent" theft or simply people who use tools (in this case, a sharp knife) to slice open the bottom of a backpack and take its contents? There's likely no violence towards the person with the backpack, and the temporary shock & disbelief at what's happening probably keeps the thief from having to subdue his prey. I was using 'violent' very widely here. This kind of theft is rare. Which kind? I've seen bag snatches two or three times and have friends who have suffered it. It's rare where he's going. I only know of one friend who has ever had a bag snatched while on holiday. That was on a bridge in Turkey. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:39:49 +0100, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Martin wrote: [] It happens all the time in the Netherlands and violent crime is rising dramatically here too. As with here, but I'd still say it was safe for tourists. I don't see the point in worrying about something which is very unlikely to happen. It does happen, you just aren't aware of it. I said it was very unlikely. There were 3735 recorded cases of violent crime in the first six months of 2007 in The Hague area. If they were all commited against tourists, I'd personally worry about the figure. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: It happens all the time in the Netherlands and violent crime is rising dramatically here too. As with here, but I'd still say it was safe for tourists. I don't see the point in worrying about something which is very unlikely to happen. I thought crime was officially falling. However you didnt get shot for no reason 30 years ago. When was the last time a tourist was shot in the UK? (Menenez doesn't count, he was living here.) The murder and violent crime rate is higher in Scotland than it is in England. I don't think tourists suddenly feel less safe when the cross the border, because the risk to tourists is very low. Two people have been violently murdered in my home town (Tillicoultry) in the last few years. I don't remember a murder in all the time I lived there- though I remember a stabbing. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: I only know of one friend who has ever had a bag snatched while on holiday. one friend in Italy, chased them till they chased back :-( My ex left all his bags on a train in Florence in the mid-90s, and went into another to look for more space, and when he came back, they'd all been taken. Not a clever thing to do! Ironically, my partner and I were in the city at the same time, oblivious. Oscar swore blind he saw him, and I dimissed it as rubbish- until I got back home and found out everything that happened! -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
Bruce Dumes wrote: After reading a bunch of travel web pages, I decided to arm myself with one of these expensive "slash proof" backpacks. Personally, I think it's beyond paranoid, but so many people say that they've had their backpacks or bags taken from them in seconds by someone walking by with a knife and yanking on the strap. I also got a slash-proof camera strap. The places I'm traveling are Hamburg (and surrounding areas), up through Denmark to Copenhagen, Latvia (Riga and Daugavpils) and a one day lay-over (no pun intended) in Amsterdam. I decided that the cost of the backpack was easily outweighed by the replacement costs of the contents it will be carrying. What's the general consensus around here? How paranoid should one really be? I think you're being too paranoid. Mild vigilance will be all you need with a normal backpack. Besides, the cities you mentioned don't have a particularly bad reputation for crime... Exactly. Probably 10 to 100 times worse to go to NY or LA than travel around Europe, not to mention Miami. /Nisse -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 -- Remove the obvious part before replying by mail please! |
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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:57:40 +0100, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Martin wrote: On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:39:49 +0100, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Martin wrote: [] It happens all the time in the Netherlands and violent crime is rising dramatically here too. As with here, but I'd still say it was safe for tourists. I don't see the point in worrying about something which is very unlikely to happen. It does happen, you just aren't aware of it. I said it was very unlikely. but you have no knowledge of the actual situation. Do you have any information on the number of tourists who are victims of violent crime in the Hague, or NL? It's probably extremely low, as it is in most places. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
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