Air France KLM announce merger changes

Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

1. Miles can be earned / redeemed by members of Frequence + and KLM FD as of
June 1, 2004 on both airlines
2. F + and KLM FD will be integrated in one new program sometime in 2005.
3. KLM will join Skyteam mid-September 2004.
3. Unprofitable routes (AF: Paris to Bristol, Birmingham and Glasgow; KL:
Amsterdam to Turin and Casablanca) will be axed.
4. KL to offer daily non-stop service Amsterdam to Manila, AF to stop flying
to Manila)
5. AF to offer daily non-stop service Paris to Caracas, KL to stop flying to
Caracas.
6. Only one airline will do Singapore - Jakarta v.v. (flights to be combined
in SIN)

More on www.klm.com

Sjoerd

In article ,
"Sjoerd" wrote:

Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

1. Miles can be earned / redeemed by members of Frequence + and KLM FD as of
June 1, 2004 on both airlines
2. F + and KLM FD will be integrated in one new program sometime in 2005.
3. KLM will join Skyteam mid-September 2004.
3. Unprofitable routes (AF: Paris to Bristol, Birmingham and Glasgow; KL:
Amsterdam to Turin and Casablanca) will be axed.
4. KL to offer daily non-stop service Amsterdam to Manila, AF to stop flying
to Manila)
5. AF to offer daily non-stop service Paris to Caracas, KL to stop flying to
Caracas.
6. Only one airline will do Singapore - Jakarta v.v. (flights to be combined
in SIN)

makes sense to rationalise all these route extensions.

On Wed, 05 May 2004 17:03:28 GMT, Not the Karl Orff
wrote:

In article ,
"Sjoerd" wrote:

Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

1. Miles can be earned / redeemed by members of Frequence + and KLM FD as of
June 1, 2004 on both airlines
2. F + and KLM FD will be integrated in one new program sometime in 2005.
3. KLM will join Skyteam mid-September 2004.
3. Unprofitable routes (AF: Paris to Bristol, Birmingham and Glasgow; KL:
Amsterdam to Turin and Casablanca) will be axed.
4. KL to offer daily non-stop service Amsterdam to Manila, AF to stop flying
to Manila)
5. AF to offer daily non-stop service Paris to Caracas, KL to stop flying to
Caracas.
6. Only one airline will do Singapore - Jakarta v.v. (flights to be combined
in SIN)

makes sense to rationalise all these route extensions.

Surely they could combine at SIN or somewhere similar and send
someone's 744/340/777 on to Australia? KL always said they needed
daily service to make that extension worthwhile, hence their attempts
to combine it with AZ during the world's shortest lived alliance.
Between them they must have enough traffic to support that now. It
would also connect with AF partner Air Tahiti Nui for transpacific
ops.
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On Wed, 5 May 2004 18:47:24 +0200, "Sjoerd"
wrote:

Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

1. Miles can be earned / redeemed by members of Frequence + and KLM FD as of
June 1, 2004 on both airlines
2. F + and KLM FD will be integrated in one new program sometime in 2005.
3. KLM will join Skyteam mid-September 2004.
3. Unprofitable routes (AF: Paris to Bristol, Birmingham and Glasgow; KL:
Amsterdam to Turin and Casablanca) will be axed.
4. KL to offer daily non-stop service Amsterdam to Manila, AF to stop flying
to Manila)
5. AF to offer daily non-stop service Paris to Caracas, KL to stop flying to
Caracas.
6. Only one airline will do Singapore - Jakarta v.v. (flights to be combined
in SIN)

More on www.klm.com

Sjoerd



Something else I noticed, Basiqair are dropping their daily 737
AMS-MRS, and KL are starting 2 daily F70s, with AF codesharing.
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"Sjoerd" wrote in message ...
Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

snip
3. Unprofitable routes (AF: Paris to Bristol, Birmingham and Glasgow; KL:
Amsterdam to Turin and Casablanca) will be axed.

Bristol is my local airport, and I would have used the AF service to
Paris many times, had it not been far more expensive than getting a
flight from London. Why can't they try to make services such as this
profitable by offering them at competitive fares, rather than simply
cutting them?

"Sjoerd" wrote in
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Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

What hppens to NW and to Worldperks miles? I couldn't find anything on NW's
or KL's web sites.

On 6 May 2004 13:52:11 GMT, Chuckles wrote:

"Sjoerd" wrote in
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Air France KLM issued a lengthy press release with merger changes:

What hppens to NW and to Worldperks miles? I couldn't find anything on NW's
or KL's web sites.

NW are going along with it, maintaining their alliance with KL,
joining Skyteam, and closer relationship with AF, moving physically
closer to AF and KL at CDG2.
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In article ,
AJC wrote:


Surely they could combine at SIN or somewhere similar and send
someone's 744/340/777 on to Australia? KL always said they needed

Australia would take a whole extra day to get there and back. Getting
to Jkarta and back is only a few hours.

However, IF traffic warrants, the 2 airlines could conceivably send on 2
services to SYD. MEL and/or AKL. Not sure how mch demand there is and
whether the airlines have 5th freedoms.

JKT could be servd by KUL.... if there was enough for 2!

daily service to make that extension worthwhile, hence their attempts
to combine it with AZ during the world's shortest lived alliance.
Between them they must have enough traffic to support that now. It
would also connect with AF partner Air Tahiti Nui for transpacific
ops.
--==++AJC++==--

Hilary wrote:
Nothing happens to NW. KL's Flying Dutchman stays the same. From
September, when KL join SkyTeam, FD members will be able to earn points on
AF.

Can WorldPerks members get miles on AF? (Could they already?)

miguel
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"Hilary" schreef in bericht
...
Nothing happens to NW. KL's Flying Dutchman stays the same. From
September, when KL join SkyTeam, FD members will be able to earn points on
AF.

Not correct. Already from June 1. Read the press release or my earlier post.

Sjoerd