If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Truck Scales on Canadian Highways
I have always wondered about the truck scales on the sides of major
highways. I would like to understand how they work. Does a truck have to report to the scales once a trip or every time it passes the scales? Once they find out how heavy the truck is, do they have to pay fees based on the load? What is the reasoning?? Is it some kind of user pay or is it a way to help moving vans measure the weight of their load? Any explanations would be appreciated! Thanks! Joy |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:12:12 GMT "Joy" wrote:
:I have always wondered about the truck scales on the sides of major :highways. I would like to understand how they work. :Does a truck have to report to the scales once a trip or every time it :passes the scales? Every time they pass an open scales. : Once they find out how heavy the truck is, do they have :to pay fees based on the load? What is the reasoning?? Is it some kind of :user pay or is it a way to help moving vans measure the weight of their :load? Any explanations would be appreciated! They check the weight against the papers (and check the lading papers as well). If the weight is off, someone (possibly even the government) is being cheated. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
"Binyamin Dissen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:12:12 GMT "Joy" wrote: :I have always wondered about the truck scales on the sides of major :highways. I would like to understand how they work. :Does a truck have to report to the scales once a trip or every time it :passes the scales? Every time they pass an open scales. : Once they find out how heavy the truck is, do they have :to pay fees based on the load? What is the reasoning?? Is it some kind of :user pay or is it a way to help moving vans measure the weight of their :load? Any explanations would be appreciated! They check the weight against the papers (and check the lading papers as well). If the weight is off, someone (possibly even the government) is being cheated. Presumably they also check the vehicle isnt over its allowable max weight too. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
"Binyamin Dissen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:12:12 GMT "Joy" wrote: :I have always wondered about the truck scales on the sides of major :highways. I would like to understand how they work. :Does a truck have to report to the scales once a trip or every time it :passes the scales? Every time they pass an open scales. : Once they find out how heavy the truck is, do they have :to pay fees based on the load? What is the reasoning?? Is it some kind of :user pay or is it a way to help moving vans measure the weight of their :load? Any explanations would be appreciated! They check the weight against the papers (and check the lading papers as well). If the weight is off, someone (possibly even the government) is being cheated. Presumably they also check the vehicle isnt over its allowable max weight too. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Keith Willshaw wrote:
Presumably they also check the vehicle isnt over its allowable max weight too. It's also for statistics. Data on goods moving throghout the country is an important economic indicator. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Joy wrote:
I have always wondered about the truck scales on the sides of major highways. I would like to understand how they work. Does a truck have to report to the scales once a trip or every time it passes the scales? Once they find out how heavy the truck is, do they have to pay fees based on the load? What is the reasoning?? Is it some kind of user pay or is it a way to help moving vans measure the weight of their load? Any explanations would be appreciated! What I find interesting is they have to go through the scales even if the commercial vehicle is not pulling a load at the time, or if the trailer is obviously empty (like a flat bed)? |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
TNSAF wrote:
What I find interesting is they have to go through the scales even if the commercial vehicle is not pulling a load at the time, or if the trailer is obviously empty (like a flat bed)? That is because they check a lot more than just weight. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Tom J wrote:
You've gotten some answers, but none from commercial drivers from what I see. I recently retied from working in one of those inspection stations. The scales are 2 fold. One is to check the weight by set of wheels to make sure too much weight is not being placed on the road and bridges in the wrong places. They also check over all weight of the rig to make sure they aren't operating over loaded without an over load permit. (80,000 # gross in US -same in Canada except in metric) Most trucks are registered for about 36,500 kg, the metric equivalent of 80,00 lb. but Canadian law allows for up to 65,000 kg. without special permits, provided there enough axles to carry the weight. Most over dimensional permits require that there be extra axles to bear the extra weight. The other reason all commercial vehicles have to go through the scales every trip is, they are visually looking at them as they pass through and can stop any rig that they determine has defects that need to be repaired before they continue. Weight is actually low priority here in Ontario. That is not to say that the people at the scales aren't looking for overloads or actively enforcing it, but CVSA inspections are the top priority. You are right about vehicles being put out of service for defects and are required to be repaired on site before proceeding. Ontario has commercial vehicle impoundment for some defects. The "critical defects" are defined in a regulation and any commercial vehicles that meet those criteria are unloaded (on site) and towed to an impound facility for 15 days. The impound is accompanied with a charge for operating an unsafe vehicle and fines start at about $2,000. At times they have a crew that is randomly pulling a rig out of line for a full inspection of the rig, it's driver & the paperwork, including driver's log book and the weigh bills for the load. There are at least three periods each year when vehicles are stopped randomly for CVSA inspections. The main one is RoadCheck, an annual 72 hour exercise that is held across Canada, US and Mexico. The other is Operation Air Brake, two one day random inspection initiatives, one which is announced and one which is not. This is also done out on the side of the highway many times a day. I worked in the area more than at a scale. You find much more of interest with the guys who are going out of their way to avoid the scales. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
"Joy" wrote in message ... I have always wondered about the truck scales on the sides of major highways. I would like to understand how they work. Does a truck have to report to the scales once a trip or every time it passes the scales? Once they find out how heavy the truck is, do they have to pay fees based on the load? What is the reasoning?? Is it some kind of user pay or is it a way to help moving vans measure the weight of their load? Any explanations would be appreciated! You've gotten some answers, but none from commercial drivers from what I see. The scales are 2 fold. One is to check the weight by set of wheels to make sure too much weight is not being placed on the road and bridges in the wrong places. They also check over all weight of the rig to make sure they aren't operating over loaded without an over load permit. (80,000 # gross in US - same in Canada except in metric) The other reason all commercial vehicles have to go through the scales every trip is, they are visually looking at them as they pass through and can stop any rig that they determine has defects that need to be repaired before they continue. At times they have a crew that is randomly pulling a rig out of line for a full inspection of the rig, it's driver & the paperwork, including driver's log book and the weigh bills for the load. This is also done out on the side of the highway many times a day. This should give you a little more insight. Tom J |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Canadian flag on the backback myth | Xomicron | Europe | 287 | June 23rd, 2004 10:42 PM |
Canadian flag on the backback myth | Xomicron | USA & Canada | 288 | June 23rd, 2004 10:42 PM |
Documents required for entry into Canada | Ted Elston | USA & Canada | 0 | May 3rd, 2004 03:09 PM |