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Passport-free travel US-Europe?
US Citizen's don't need a passport to enter Canada(just "proof of
citizenship," such as a birth certificate and government-issued photo ID. I use a voter's card and US driver's license.) There are more or less no border inspections anymore between EU countries, or so I have been led to believe. There are two islands off the coast of Newfoundland, St. Pierre and Miquelon, that are French territory. In fact, they are considered "overseas departments," a rough political equivalent to the State of Hawaii in the US. The Islands are accessed by plane from Canada or by ferry from Newfoundland. According to a travel guide I read, the French do not require passports from USAn's who enter these territories from Canada. Just as one can fly from Hawaii to anywhere else in the USA without border fomralities, do they run direct flights from St. Pierre to France without border formalities? And if they do, would it be possible for a USAn to thus be able to travel to Europe without having a passport? As an alternative, there are three other French "overseas Departments" in the Caribbean -- Martinique, Guadaloupe, and French Guiana (the home of Devil's Island and the French Space Program). Would it be possible to do passport-free travel to Europe via those territories? |
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Passport-free travel US-Europe?
"Menachem Mavet" schreef in bericht om... US Citizen's don't need a passport to enter Canada(just "proof of citizenship," such as a birth certificate and government-issued photo ID. I use a voter's card and US driver's license.) There are more or less no border inspections anymore between EU countries, or so I have been led to believe. There are two islands off the coast of Newfoundland, St. Pierre and Miquelon, that are French territory. In fact, they are considered "overseas departments," a rough political equivalent to the State of Hawaii in the US. The Islands are accessed by plane from Canada or by ferry from Newfoundland. According to a travel guide I read, the French do not require passports from USAn's who enter these territories from Canada. Just as one can fly from Hawaii to anywhere else in the USA without border fomralities, do they run direct flights from St. Pierre to France without border formalities? And if they do, would it be possible for a USAn to thus be able to travel to Europe without having a passport? As an alternative, there are three other French "overseas Departments" in the Caribbean -- Martinique, Guadaloupe, and French Guiana (the home of Devil's Island and the French Space Program). Would it be possible to do passport-free travel to Europe via those territories? No. There is passport / immigration control when arriving in European France from French terittories overseas. Same for Dutch islands in the Caribbean. Sjoerd |
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"Sjoerd" skrev i meddelandet ... As an alternative, there are three other French "overseas Departments" in the Caribbean -- Martinique, Guadaloupe, and French Guiana (the home of Devil's Island and the French Space Program). Would it be possible to do passport-free travel to Europe via those territories? No. There is passport / immigration control when arriving in European France from French terittories overseas. Same for Dutch islands in the Caribbean. There was no such control to/from Guadeloupe when I travelled the Carribean from Europe recently. In fact no immigration or identity control at all in a trip Sweden-Germany(FRA)-Guadeloupe-6 different Carribean countries and back home the same way. L.P |
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Menachem Mavet writes:
There are two islands off the coast of Newfoundland, St. Pierre and Miquelon, that are French territory. In fact, they are considered "overseas departments," a rough political equivalent to the State of Hawaii in the US. St. Pierre and Miquelon hasn't been an overseas department since 1985. It's a "territorial collectivity". -- Mark Brader | "The race is not always to the swift, Toronto | nor the battle to the strong -- | but that is the way to bet it." --Damon Runyon |
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Passport-free travel US-Europe?
"Lennart Petersen" schreef in bericht ... "Sjoerd" skrev i meddelandet ... As an alternative, there are three other French "overseas Departments" in the Caribbean -- Martinique, Guadaloupe, and French Guiana (the home of Devil's Island and the French Space Program). Would it be possible to do passport-free travel to Europe via those territories? No. There is passport / immigration control when arriving in European France from French terittories overseas. Same for Dutch islands in the Caribbean. There was no such control to/from Guadeloupe when I travelled the Carribean from Europe recently. In fact no immigration or identity control at all in a trip Sweden-Germany(FRA)-Guadeloupe-6 different Carribean countries and back home the same way. Strange, because according to http://www.consulfrance-losangeles.o...ish/visas.html The Schengen agreement does not apply to the French Overseas Departments and Territories. Only the Consulate of France can issue visas for those destinations. Travelers going to Monaco obtain their Schengen visas from the French Consulate. Sjoerd |
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Passport-free travel US-Europe?
"Paul Dwerryhouse" skrev i meddelandet news:Y5aZb.608424$_x2.1359478@zonnet-reader-1... (Menachem Mavet) writes: As an alternative, there are three other French "overseas Departments" in the Caribbean -- Martinique, Guadaloupe, and French Guiana (the home of Devil's Island and the French Space Program). Would it be possible to do passport-free travel to Europe via those territories? Just as a matter of interest ... wouldn't it just be easier to get a passport than to take an expensive, convoluted path to Europe? I mean, even if someone succeeded in getting to a foreign country without needing a passport, is it a particularly good idea? I'd hate to be pulled up by foreign police and not have a passport to show them... You're perfectly right. Being caught without valid documents you can expect anything. Possibly a night in custody and then being expelled in the worse case. L.P |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:18:31 +0000, Charles Hawtrey wrote:
Where on earth did you get the idea that Hawaii is an "overseas department"? Hawaii's statehood goes back over 40 years and it has the same legal status as any other state, despite being a little bit far away from the other 49. So, it's just a colony then. |
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Passport-free travel US-Europe?
"Charles Hawtrey" skrev i meddelandet ... Where on earth did you get the idea that Hawaii is an "overseas department"? Hawaii's statehood goes back over 40 years and it has the same legal status as any other state, despite being a little bit far away from the other 49. Well ,as AFAIK the French overseas departments have exactly the same status as any French department I think the comparison works out. So you can see Hawaii as an overseas state or so, although perfectly equal to any other U.S state. |
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