Square foot per passenger

Years ago there was a website that calculated the square footage of public
spaces on a ship and divided that result by the number of passengers. It
gave a square footage of public space per passenger for each ship. It was
interesting to see the differences with different ship and cruise lines.
Has anyone come across this site?
G&V

"G&V" wrote in message
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Years ago there was a website that calculated the square footage of public
spaces on a ship and divided that result by the number of passengers. It
gave a square footage of public space per passenger for each ship. It was
interesting to see the differences with different ship and cruise lines.
Has anyone come across this site?

The Passenger Space Ratio has nothing to do with square footage but is
calculated by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage by the number of
passengers. To make things more confusing, GRT has nothing to do with weight
but is a measure of useable inside space on a cruise ship. (one GRT = 100
cubic feet of volume)

And to answer your question, the use of passenger/space ratios has fallen
out of favor in recent years and I don't know of any one site that lists
them for all ships. Used to be that a passenger/space ratio of over 30 was
considered great. Now with the new ships, many are over 40. This is
because all interior space like atriums, indoor promenades, etc are
included... even though it is arguable whether or that that is "useable"
passenger space.


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On Sep 23, 11:02*am, "G&V" wrote:
Years ago there was a website that calculated the square footage of public
spaces on a ship and divided that result by the number of passengers. *It
gave a square footage of public space per passenger for each ship. *It was
interesting to see the differences with different ship and cruise lines.
Has anyone come across this site?
G&V

Here is a link that gives a little info on the space ratio:

http://www.4syndication.com/cruise_a...o_us/6948/v.do

and here is one with the ration for some lines:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...uiseomatic.htm

This link has info as well as space ratio for others:

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articl...-sep-2007.html



I hope the links work.

That is not what I am looking for.
There was a site in the past that listed the square foot of public space per
passenger.
Not looking for Gross Registered Tonnage
G&V

"George Leppla" wrote in message
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The Passenger Space Ratio has nothing to do with square footage but is
calculated by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage by the number of
passengers. To make things more confusing, GRT has nothing to do with
weight but is a measure of useable inside space on a cruise ship. (one GRT
= 100 cubic feet of volume)

The Berlitz cruise books have them.

--Tom


"G&V" wrote in message
...
That is not what I am looking for.
There was a site in the past that listed the square foot of public space
per passenger.
Not looking for Gross Registered Tonnage
G&V

"George Leppla" wrote in message
...


The Passenger Space Ratio has nothing to do with square footage but is
calculated by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage by the number of
passengers. To make things more confusing, GRT has nothing to do with
weight but is a measure of useable inside space on a cruise ship. (one
GRT = 100 cubic feet of volume)

[Default] Thus spake "George Leppla" :


"G&V" wrote in message
...
Years ago there was a website that calculated the square footage of public
spaces on a ship and divided that result by the number of passengers. It
gave a square footage of public space per passenger for each ship. It was
interesting to see the differences with different ship and cruise lines.
Has anyone come across this site?

The Passenger Space Ratio has nothing to do with square footage but is
calculated by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage by the number of
passengers. To make things more confusing, GRT has nothing to do with weight
but is a measure of useable inside space on a cruise ship. (one GRT = 100
cubic feet of volume)

And to answer your question, the use of passenger/space ratios has fallen
out of favor in recent years and I don't know of any one site that lists
them for all ships. Used to be that a passenger/space ratio of over 30 was
considered great. Now with the new ships, many are over 40. This is
because all interior space like atriums, indoor promenades, etc are
included... even though it is arguable whether or that that is "useable"
passenger space.

Sure it is. The fourth story on the Voyager's centrum is obviously of
some value. Not sure what.

[Default] Thus spake "Tom K" :

The Berlitz cruise books have them.

I have the 2006 book in my lap. Jabbed my finger in and hit the
Insignia (not a bad choice).

It lists length, beam & draft, GRT and propulsion (being a Euro
oriented book, the power is in watts. 18,600 kW is 24,800 ponies).

No square footage for the whole ship, just size ranges (145.3-968.7 sq
ft). PSR is 44.2 for lowers, 36.7 for all berths.

As a comparison (another random jab), the Elation has a PSR of
34.2/27.1.


--Tom


"G&V" wrote in message
...
That is not what I am looking for.
There was a site in the past that listed the square foot of public space
per passenger.
Not looking for Gross Registered Tonnage
G&V

"George Leppla" wrote in message
...


The Passenger Space Ratio has nothing to do with square footage but is
calculated by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage by the number of
passengers. To make things more confusing, GRT has nothing to do with
weight but is a measure of useable inside space on a cruise ship. (one
GRT = 100 cubic feet of volume)

"Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
...
[Default] Thus spake "Tom K" :

The Berlitz cruise books have them.

I have the 2006 book in my lap. Jabbed my finger in and hit the
Insignia (not a bad choice).

It lists length, beam & draft, GRT and propulsion (being a Euro
oriented book, the power is in watts. 18,600 kW is 24,800 ponies).

No square footage for the whole ship, just size ranges (145.3-968.7 sq
ft). PSR is 44.2 for lowers, 36.7 for all berths.

As a comparison (another random jab), the Elation has a PSR of
34.2/27.1.


A few Other PSRs... (for lowers only)

Crown Princess 37.2
QM2 56.6
Disney Magic 47.6
Constellation 46.2
Carnival Victory 36.8
Norwegian Dawn 40.8
Paul Gauguin 58.1
Seven Seas Navigator 58.2
Silver Shadow 72.8
Crystal Serenity 62.2
Sea Princess 39.3

G&V,

While not used as much today as in the past, here is CLIA's (Cruise Lines
International Association) own definitions.


Three key terms and concepts...

* Cruise Capacity is the maximum number of passengers a ship can accommodate
on a double occupancy basis. The number does not include crew.

* Gross Registered Tonnage (GRT) sounds like it measures weight, but it is
actually the measurement of interior space accessible to passengers on a
cruise ship. Cabins, dining rooms, public rooms are included; kitchens,
crew's quarters and the engine room are not. One GRT equals 100 cubic feet.

* Space Ratio measures "elbow room" per passenger. Here's how to figure it:


GRT
____________ = Space Ratio

Cruise Capacity

A space ratio in the 20's or higher indicates a spacious ship.


Happy sailing...
John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY (sm)
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com






"G&V" wrote in message
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Years ago there was a website that calculated the square footage of public
spaces on a ship and divided that result by the number of passengers. It
gave a square footage of public space per passenger for each ship. It was
interesting to see the differences with different ship and cruise lines.
Has anyone come across this site?
G&V

On 9/23/2008 10:02 AM G&V did a "happy dance", then made these writings:
Years ago there was a website that calculated the square footage of
public spaces on a ship and divided that result by the number of
passengers. It gave a square footage of public space per passenger
for each ship. It was interesting to see the differences with
different ship and cruise lines. Has anyone come across this site?
G&V

It can take a long time to calculate this one. First you have to count
all the passengers who are actually on the ship. If not everybody shows
up, there'll be more room for the cruisers who did show up. On the
other hand if everybody shows up, wouldn't there be less space? ;-)

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