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"Ken Blake" wrote in message ... In , B Vaughan typed: On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:02:58 GMT, "tile" wrote: i have never used salve in my life.. Many other Italians use it liberally, especially when they can't decide whether "ciao" or "buon giorno" would be more appropriate, or when they want to avoid being too informal yet don't want to feel servile. (For instance employees to their boss.) "Arrivederci" is likewise neutral in formality. Barbara, how about "arrivederla"? Am I right that it's more formal than "arrivederci" and used less frequently? I'm not Barbara, but yes, ArrivederLa is the formal invocation of Arrivaderci. -Holly |
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Local usage in Venice is ciao as greeting --"hi" --( see below) and ciao
ciao-- "bye bye" --on parting. Even with friends, the first greeting of the day is usually buongiorno ( or buona sera), and then ciao afterward in the course of the day. If one happens to pass a friend on the street is a quick wave and a ciao. Arevederci -- 'see you"-- is a sort of friendly assurance that you will see them again at some future time. rjf "B Vaughan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:50:36 +0100, "Graeme Miller" wrote: Conversational Italian now... The older language tapes suggest that "Ciao" is only for use between friends of if you're talking to children. The more modern BBC late night programmes sprinkle the greeting around quite liberally as if its got the same status as "Hi" in English. Yes, "ciao" is about as informal as "hi" in English. However, Italians tend to be a bit more formal than most English speakers. If you're old enough to remember, you can use the same guidelines that would have been current in the US up until the mid 1960s. (I don't know what the watershed years were for formality in the UK.) When I first came to Italy I used to decide whether to use the formal or familiar verb forms by thinking whether this person would have been addressed as "Mr." or "Mrs." by my mother when I was a child. -- Barbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup |
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