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One good reason not to travel with Air France
On 14/09/11 08:43, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: Single aisle aircraft. How many of those do Air France fly to the US? I believe all AF flights to/from the U.S. are widebodies currently. So your comment about the US authorities was just you talking ********... No change... Even if the flight is going elsewhere, that's no excuse to risk the safety of the flight by boarding drunks. As I said, I don't think it's a flight, I think it's a training exercise. Too many men, too many reading papers during the take-off safety briefing, no mixture of clothing, no camera shake due to bumping of the aircraft as it rolls across the tarmac, the obvious good humour of the lady giving the talk as they're usually looking bored. It doesn't look like any flight I have ever been on. -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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One good reason not to travel with Air France
William Black writes:
So your comment about the US authorities was just you talking ********... I presume that similar air regulations exist in France, I just haven't looked them up. Even if no regulations exist, it is exceedingly reckless to depart with drunken, ill-behaved passengers aboard. Once the airplane is flying, you cannot simply pull over to the curb and throw out any unruly passengers. That's why the regulations exist. As I said, I don't think it's a flight, I think it's a training exercise. If it's a training exercise, it's still a failure. The airplane should be taxiing back to the gate to remove the disruptive passengers. You don't ignore disruptive passengers, you remove them. It doesn't look like any flight I have ever been on. I hope it doesn't look like any flight I'll ever be on. But Air France was already way down on my list. |
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One good reason not to travel with Air France
On 16/09/11 19:51, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: So your comment about the US authorities was just you talking ********... I presume that similar air regulations exist in France, I just haven't looked them up. Even if no regulations exist, it is exceedingly reckless to depart with drunken, ill-behaved passengers aboard. Once the airplane is flying, you cannot simply pull over to the curb and throw out any unruly passengers. That's why the regulations exist. You're just making stuff up as you go along here. As I said, I don't think it's a flight, I think it's a training exercise. If it's a training exercise, it's still a failure. The airplane should be taxiing back to the gate to remove the disruptive passengers. You don't ignore disruptive passengers, you remove them. And you're not an expert. Nobody is out of their seat, nobody is shouting or being overtly insulting, it's on the edge of disruption. Which is presumably why it's being done. There's a fine line between disruption and boisterous behaviour and if you get it wrong it costs a shed load of cash. Well, not 'you' obviously, your judgement is notoriously poor... It doesn't look like any flight I have ever been on. I hope it doesn't look like any flight I'll ever be on. But Air France was already way down on my list. When could you last afford an air ticket? -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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One good reason not to travel with Air France
"William Black" wrote in message When could you last afford an air ticket? -- William Black That is a real cheap shot.. Can YOU, William? |
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One good reason not to travel with Air France
On 18/09/11 22:59, hls wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message When could you last afford an air ticket? That is a real cheap shot.. He was asking for it. Can YOU, William? I do hope so, they won't let me on an aircraft without one... If you check my headers from late June and early August you'll find I was on a different continent to the one I'm posting from now... -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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One good reason not to travel with Air France
"William Black" wrote in message ... On 18/09/11 22:59, hls wrote: "William Black" wrote in message When could you last afford an air ticket? That is a real cheap shot.. He was asking for it. Can YOU, William? I do hope so, they won't let me on an aircraft without one... If you check my headers from late June and early August you'll find I was on a different continent to the one I'm posting from now... -- William Black It is getting harder for me to purchase a ticket under conditions nowadays. I was "comped" two business class tickets from Delta/Air France due to an overbooking from Rio de Janeiro to the USA. When I used the tickets, a year later, I had to copay as much to use these tickets as the original flight cost anyway. I guess a lot people and some companies are having trouble with cash flow at present. |
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One good reason not to travel with Air France
On 29/09/11 20:15, Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
wrote in : William Black writes: So your comment about the US authorities was just you talking ********... I presume that similar air regulations exist in France, I just haven't looked them up. Even if no regulations exist, it is exceedingly reckless to depart with drunken, ill-behaved passengers aboard. Once the airplane is flying, you cannot simply pull over to the curb and throw out any unruly passengers. That's why the regulations exist. If there was a rule not to allow drunken passengers aboard, it would be pointless, because airlines serve booze on the flight. Air France will give you champagne for free if you're lucky, Well they did, but that must have disappeared some time last year because I haven't seen any on their long haul flights for the past year or so. -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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