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Old August 11th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Asterix
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Default Avoid Edmonton Canada at all cost-Too True - You Could Be Next Corpse!! More!

Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?

Is that why the incompetent Edmonton police, DO NOT WANT TO ARREST THE KILLER
- because he is one of their own?

From: (glork)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Edmonton Alberta - Haven For Serial Killers
Date: 8 Aug 2005 20:26:30 GMT

INDEPTH: EDMONTON MURDERS
Edmonton's murdered women
CBC News Online | Updated June 20, 2005

EDMONTON MURDERS:
Interactive map & timeline [Flash presentation]
Get Flash player

Police in Edmonton are looking for someone whom many people are calling a
serial killer, targeting women. They have released a profile of a man they
believe has killed several prostitutes and have offered a $100,000 reward for
information leading to his arrest.

The profile prepared by the RCMP's Behavioural Science Branch suggests he:

* Drives a reliable, high-mileage truck, van or sport utility vehicle,
and is comfortable driving in rural areas.
* Likes to hunt, fish, camp or participate in other outdoor activities.
* Has a past or present connection to the area south of Edmonton,
including Leduc, Camrose and New Sarepta.
* May clean his vehicle at odd times of the day.

Since 1983, the bodies of more than 20 Edmonton women have been found. All
are described by police as being prostitutes or having high-risk lifestyles
and only five of the cases have been solved.

The site where remains of 22-year-old Cara King were found in 1997.

The situation has stoked the growing fear in the city's estimated yearly
population of 400 sex trade workers.

Kourch Chan is a social worker with Crossroads, an outreach program for
Edmonton sex trade workers. In an interview with CBC News Online in 2003, he
said many of his clients had been "nervous and quite scared," since the
bodies of Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre were discovered that month. "People
are a little more hesitant to get out," he said. "There's a lot of
speculation that there's one person who could have (committed the murders)."

While RCMP investigators say they have no information to prove any of the
deaths are related, they have joined forces with Edmonton city police to
explore the possibility. City police are reopening all old case files
involving missing women to see if there is any link to the most recent
crimes.

Here is a list of women who have been found under similar circumstances since
1983:

* May 6, 2005:
The body of sex-trade worker Ellie May Meyer, 33, is found near
Sherwood Park.

* April 18, 2005:
RCMP in Alberta identify the body of Charlene Gauld, 20, who burned
remains were found near Camrose.

* Jan. 25, 2005:
The body of 19-year-old Samantha Tayleen Berg is discovered under snow
in a parking lot on Edmonton's North Side. The teenager worked in the sex
trade.

* June 11, 2004
The body of 19-year-old Rachel Quinney is found in a wooded area near
Sherwood Park, an Edmonton suburb.

* July 7, 2003
The body of 40-year-old Katie Sylvia Ballentyne, who worked in the sex
trade, is found in Leduc County, about 20 km south of Edmonton. She is the
fourth female found outside Edmonton in 2003, the fifth in 10 months. Her
body was located in a field near Range Road 235, just north of Township Road
500.

* April 12, 2003
The skull and remains of 29-year-old Debbie Lake, a former prostitute,
are found near Highway 623 near Miquelon Lake Provincial Park, approximately
70 km southeast of Edmonton.

* Jan. 12, 2003
20-year-old Melissa Munch is found dead in a stand of trees on a
farmer's field west of Range Road 220 and south of Highway 16 in Strathcona
County. The discovery is made four days after the body of Monique Pitre was
found less than 10 kilometres away.

There were an estimated 400 sex trade workers in Edmonton in 2003.
* Jan. 8, 2003
The frozen body of Monique Pitre, 30, is found in a field south of Fort
Saskatchewan (Range Road 222 and Township Rd). There is trauma to her entire
body.

* Sept. 23, 2002
The burned body of 28-year-old Edna Bernard is found in a field east of
Leduc, near Range Road 245, north of Highway 623.

* Jan. 27, 2001
24-year-old Kelly Dawn Reilly is found dead behind a gravel operation
in the area of Range Road 264 and secondary highway 633, near Villeneuve.

* Sept. 1, 1997
22-year-old Cara King is found in a canola field in Sherwood Park
(Highway 214 and Hwy. 16), east of Edmonton.

* June 14, 1997
The body of 24-year-old Jessica Cardinal is found in an alley behind a
commercial building at 9325-111th Avenue. Her body is discovered behind a
discarded shelving unit. Edmonton police have no suspect in her death.

* Oct. 19, 1997
The body of Joyce Hewitt is found in Sherwood Park, near 17th Street
and 89th Avenue. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien says Hewitt had a "high-
risk lifestyle." The circumstances of her death were not available.

* Dec. 25, 1996
24-year-old Joanne Ghostkeeper is found strangled in her Edmonton
apartment at 11925-34th Street East. Police have no suspect in her death.

* Feb. 11, 1993
The partially decomposed body of 25-year-old Elaine Ross is found
stuffed under a bed in a motel room on 183rd Street near Stony Plain Road,
Edmonton. Autopsy results were inconclusive and a cause of death is unknown,
but police are treating it as a homicide.

* Dec. 21, 1990
Lorraine Wray, a 46-year-old masseuse and mother of one, is found
strangled in the bathroom of her Edmonton business, West End Studio, at 15526
Stony Plain Road. According to Edmonton police spokesperson Dean Parthenis,
several autopsies were performed, leading investigators to determine "manual
strangulation" as the cause of death.

* Oct. 25, 1990
29-year-old Mavis Mason is found stabbed to death on a rural road west
of Edmonton.

* Oct. 25, 1989
Bernadette Ahenakew, a 22-year-old mother of three, is found dead in a
ditch alongside a rural road near Sherwood Park.

* Sept. 13, 1988
The body of 20-year-old Georgette Flint is found in Elk Island National
Park. An exact cause of death is not determined.

* Sept. 21, 1986
The body of 21-year-old Melodie Joy Riegel is found on a hotel-room
bed. She was last seen entering the hotel with a client.

* 1983
The skeletal remains of 21-year-old Gail Cardinal are found 10
kilometres south of Fort Saskatchewan. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien
says Cardinal had a "high-risk lifestyle." No cause was determined in her
death.

Solved Murders

* 1993: Linda Giles (circumstances unavailable)

* 1996: Charmaine Pidlesny (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Sherry Ann Upright (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Catherine Ann Burrell (circumstances unavailable)

* April 26, 2001: Ginger Lee Bellerose is found in the courtyard area of
Edmonton's International Hotel (since razed). The 26-year-old mother had been
beaten to death. The murder was solved March 14, 2003 and 52-year-old
Medicine Hat resident Richard David Douglas was charged with second-degree
murder. Edmonton police do not suspect this murder was connected with the
others.

Sources: Edmonton Police Service; RCMP; Prostitution Awareness and Action
Foundation of Edmonton; Canadian Press


On 8 Aug 2005 20:31:40 GMT, in can.politics (glork) wrote:

Grisly discovery
Female corpse located in area where others found
By MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN

A female corpse discovered Friday by a farmer tilling his field is just a few
kilometres from where three city prostitutes have been found slain and dumped
in Strathcona County.

"We've had our share of (body) discoveries," Const. Darren Anderson with the
Strathcona County RCMP said yesterday from the scene just east of Highway 21
and north of Township Road 534.

"We do have a lot of isolated areas that I guess are convenient for trying to
dispose of a victim.

"Any death like this is certainly suspicious."

WORKING THE FIELD

The farmer was tilling his field with a tractor about 11 p.m. Friday,
planning to work through the night, when he spotted something strange in the
distance, a few hundred metres into the field, said Anderson.

As soon as the farmer found the body, he called RCMP, and officers sealed off
the area until yesterday morning, when white-suited forensics investigators
arrived and set up a blue tent over the remains.

The scene is only about six kilometres southwest from where the slain body of
Rachel Quinney, 19, was found in June 2004. Two other slain prostitutes were
found near Quinney's remains the year before.

The RCMP-led Project KARE team probing the murders of Edmonton prostitutes
found dumped outside the city is providing assistance with this latest
investigation and was on scene yesterday.

KARE is probing the unsolved deaths of at least 18 prostitutes across the
province, some dating back 20 years.

The oldest case dates back to 1932 and the most recent to April 16, when 20-
year-old prostitute Charlene Gauld's burned body was found near Camrose.

The task force has indicated a serial killer may be responsible for at least
some of the prostitute slayings.

But Anderson yesterday urged against jumping to conclusions. "We have to be
very careful we don't make any speculations ... we don't know exactly what
we're dealing with here. We're really in the dark on this one until we can
get the autopsy back."

An autopsy is planned for tomorrow morning.

Anderson said the female's body had decomposed, but he couldn't speculate on
how long it had been there. The body was clothed and had not been burned, he
said.

'GREAT PRECAUTION'

Joining the KARE team yesterday was the RCMP major crimes unit and forensic
unit. "It's a great precaution to have (KARE) at the ground level at the
beginning," Anderson added.

Jean Archer, whose farm is just south of the latest grisly discovery,
believes a serial killer is at work.

"I think it's somebody who knows the area pretty well," said Archer. "This is
some maniac on a rampage."

About a kilometre north of the field, Sally Froese was shocked when told a
body had been found near her home of three years. Holding her 10-month-old
son in her arms, she said she still feels safe because the area slayings
don't seem random - sex-trade workers seem to be the target. "But still,
someone has lost a loved one."

Today, ground search crews will continue combing the area, looking for clues.

In 1997, 38-year-old mother of three Connie Grandinetti was found dead near
where Quinney's body was found. She'd been shot twice in the back of the head
by her nephew, who was found guilty of murder in the crime.


There is so much bad news about this place, with more and more businesses
leaving town, some quietly, others with bad p.r. sessions!

Trauth is telling the truth, and not even ALL of it.

He is not reporting on the crooks in the city tax department, who got caught
giving a lawyer a discount of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in assessment on his
house, while shafting neighbours with over-assessments!! Corruption, wouldn't
you say?


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Old August 12th, 2005, 01:23 AM
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Asterix wrote:

Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


And meanwhile, many usenet readers are wondering about the sanity of the person
who keeps posting this same crap under different names.


  #3  
Old August 12th, 2005, 03:18 AM
Patty Winter
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In article ,
Asterix wrote:
Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


Perhaps they are, but we non-residents are wondering why you keep
posting this off-topic junk.

Cautions to travelers would be appropriate if there were a specific
danger, but repeatedly posting each and every article you can find
about crime in Edmonton is not in that category. And why on earth
are you posting to the European travel group at all?


Patty

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Old August 12th, 2005, 03:28 AM
Timothy Kroesen
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You can be assured RCMP and Edmonton authorities are taking notice now
too.

Tim K

"Dave Smith" wrote in message
...
Asterix wrote:

Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of

the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


And meanwhile, many usenet readers are wondering about the sanity of

the person
who keeps posting this same crap under different names.



  #5  
Old August 12th, 2005, 03:28 AM
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Your headline is wrong - I'm quite safe going to Edmonton. All the previous
victims have been women.

David Bennetts
Australia


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Old August 12th, 2005, 06:34 AM
Runge
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because he just follows les us et coutumes of some long standing OT posters
who keep polluting this group

"Patty Winter" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
In article ,
Asterix wrote:
Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the
dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


Perhaps they are, but we non-residents are wondering why you keep
posting this off-topic junk.

Cautions to travelers would be appropriate if there were a specific
danger, but repeatedly posting each and every article you can find
about crime in Edmonton is not in that category. And why on earth
are you posting to the European travel group at all?


Patty



  #8  
Old August 13th, 2005, 04:23 PM
Ken Spencer
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Now media report that Edmonton has more crime per capita than even New York!!
There are even signs at all entrances to West Edmonton Mall, warning those
visiting about high crime in the Mall - rapes, murders,muggings,car
jacking,auto theft,etc...


On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:33:59 -0600, Asterix wrote:

Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


Is that why the incompetent Edmonton police, DO NOT WANT TO ARREST THE KILLER
- because he is one of their own?


From: (glork)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Edmonton Alberta - Haven For Serial Killers
Date: 8 Aug 2005 20:26:30 GMT

INDEPTH: EDMONTON MURDERS
Edmonton's murdered women
CBC News Online | Updated June 20, 2005

EDMONTON MURDERS:
Interactive map & timeline [Flash presentation]
Get Flash player

Police in Edmonton are looking for someone whom many people are calling a
serial killer, targeting women. They have released a profile of a man they
believe has killed several prostitutes and have offered a $100,000 reward for
information leading to his arrest.

The profile prepared by the RCMP's Behavioural Science Branch suggests he:

* Drives a reliable, high-mileage truck, van or sport utility vehicle,
and is comfortable driving in rural areas.
* Likes to hunt, fish, camp or participate in other outdoor activities.
* Has a past or present connection to the area south of Edmonton,
including Leduc, Camrose and New Sarepta.
* May clean his vehicle at odd times of the day.

Since 1983, the bodies of more than 20 Edmonton women have been found. All
are described by police as being prostitutes or having high-risk lifestyles
and only five of the cases have been solved.

The site where remains of 22-year-old Cara King were found in 1997.

The situation has stoked the growing fear in the city's estimated yearly
population of 400 sex trade workers.

Kourch Chan is a social worker with Crossroads, an outreach program for
Edmonton sex trade workers. In an interview with CBC News Online in 2003, he
said many of his clients had been "nervous and quite scared," since the
bodies of Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre were discovered that month. "People
are a little more hesitant to get out," he said. "There's a lot of
speculation that there's one person who could have (committed the murders)."

While RCMP investigators say they have no information to prove any of the
deaths are related, they have joined forces with Edmonton city police to
explore the possibility. City police are reopening all old case files
involving missing women to see if there is any link to the most recent
crimes.

Here is a list of women who have been found under similar circumstances since
1983:

* May 6, 2005:
The body of sex-trade worker Ellie May Meyer, 33, is found near
Sherwood Park.

* April 18, 2005:
RCMP in Alberta identify the body of Charlene Gauld, 20, who burned
remains were found near Camrose.

* Jan. 25, 2005:
The body of 19-year-old Samantha Tayleen Berg is discovered under snow
in a parking lot on Edmonton's North Side. The teenager worked in the sex
trade.

* June 11, 2004
The body of 19-year-old Rachel Quinney is found in a wooded area near
Sherwood Park, an Edmonton suburb.

* July 7, 2003
The body of 40-year-old Katie Sylvia Ballentyne, who worked in the sex
trade, is found in Leduc County, about 20 km south of Edmonton. She is the
fourth female found outside Edmonton in 2003, the fifth in 10 months. Her
body was located in a field near Range Road 235, just north of Township Road
500.

* April 12, 2003
The skull and remains of 29-year-old Debbie Lake, a former prostitute,
are found near Highway 623 near Miquelon Lake Provincial Park, approximately
70 km southeast of Edmonton.

* Jan. 12, 2003
20-year-old Melissa Munch is found dead in a stand of trees on a
farmer's field west of Range Road 220 and south of Highway 16 in Strathcona
County. The discovery is made four days after the body of Monique Pitre was
found less than 10 kilometres away.

There were an estimated 400 sex trade workers in Edmonton in 2003.
* Jan. 8, 2003
The frozen body of Monique Pitre, 30, is found in a field south of Fort
Saskatchewan (Range Road 222 and Township Rd). There is trauma to her entire
body.

* Sept. 23, 2002
The burned body of 28-year-old Edna Bernard is found in a field east of
Leduc, near Range Road 245, north of Highway 623.

* Jan. 27, 2001
24-year-old Kelly Dawn Reilly is found dead behind a gravel operation
in the area of Range Road 264 and secondary highway 633, near Villeneuve.

* Sept. 1, 1997
22-year-old Cara King is found in a canola field in Sherwood Park
(Highway 214 and Hwy. 16), east of Edmonton.

* June 14, 1997
The body of 24-year-old Jessica Cardinal is found in an alley behind a
commercial building at 9325-111th Avenue. Her body is discovered behind a
discarded shelving unit. Edmonton police have no suspect in her death.

* Oct. 19, 1997
The body of Joyce Hewitt is found in Sherwood Park, near 17th Street
and 89th Avenue. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien says Hewitt had a "high-
risk lifestyle." The circumstances of her death were not available.

* Dec. 25, 1996
24-year-old Joanne Ghostkeeper is found strangled in her Edmonton
apartment at 11925-34th Street East. Police have no suspect in her death.

* Feb. 11, 1993
The partially decomposed body of 25-year-old Elaine Ross is found
stuffed under a bed in a motel room on 183rd Street near Stony Plain Road,
Edmonton. Autopsy results were inconclusive and a cause of death is unknown,
but police are treating it as a homicide.

* Dec. 21, 1990
Lorraine Wray, a 46-year-old masseuse and mother of one, is found
strangled in the bathroom of her Edmonton business, West End Studio, at 15526
Stony Plain Road. According to Edmonton police spokesperson Dean Parthenis,
several autopsies were performed, leading investigators to determine "manual
strangulation" as the cause of death.

* Oct. 25, 1990
29-year-old Mavis Mason is found stabbed to death on a rural road west
of Edmonton.

* Oct. 25, 1989
Bernadette Ahenakew, a 22-year-old mother of three, is found dead in a
ditch alongside a rural road near Sherwood Park.

* Sept. 13, 1988
The body of 20-year-old Georgette Flint is found in Elk Island National
Park. An exact cause of death is not determined.

* Sept. 21, 1986
The body of 21-year-old Melodie Joy Riegel is found on a hotel-room
bed. She was last seen entering the hotel with a client.

* 1983
The skeletal remains of 21-year-old Gail Cardinal are found 10
kilometres south of Fort Saskatchewan. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien
says Cardinal had a "high-risk lifestyle." No cause was determined in her
death.

Solved Murders

* 1993: Linda Giles (circumstances unavailable)

* 1996: Charmaine Pidlesny (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Sherry Ann Upright (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Catherine Ann Burrell (circumstances unavailable)

* April 26, 2001: Ginger Lee Bellerose is found in the courtyard area of
Edmonton's International Hotel (since razed). The 26-year-old mother had been
beaten to death. The murder was solved March 14, 2003 and 52-year-old
Medicine Hat resident Richard David Douglas was charged with second-degree
murder. Edmonton police do not suspect this murder was connected with the
others.

Sources: Edmonton Police Service; RCMP; Prostitution Awareness and Action
Foundation of Edmonton; Canadian Press


On 8 Aug 2005 20:31:40 GMT, in can.politics (glork) wrote:

Grisly discovery
Female corpse located in area where others found
By MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN

A female corpse discovered Friday by a farmer tilling his field is just a few
kilometres from where three city prostitutes have been found slain and dumped
in Strathcona County.

"We've had our share of (body) discoveries," Const. Darren Anderson with the
Strathcona County RCMP said yesterday from the scene just east of Highway 21
and north of Township Road 534.

"We do have a lot of isolated areas that I guess are convenient for trying to
dispose of a victim.

"Any death like this is certainly suspicious."

WORKING THE FIELD

The farmer was tilling his field with a tractor about 11 p.m. Friday,
planning to work through the night, when he spotted something strange in the
distance, a few hundred metres into the field, said Anderson.

As soon as the farmer found the body, he called RCMP, and officers sealed off
the area until yesterday morning, when white-suited forensics investigators
arrived and set up a blue tent over the remains.

The scene is only about six kilometres southwest from where the slain body of
Rachel Quinney, 19, was found in June 2004. Two other slain prostitutes were
found near Quinney's remains the year before.

The RCMP-led Project KARE team probing the murders of Edmonton prostitutes
found dumped outside the city is providing assistance with this latest
investigation and was on scene yesterday.

KARE is probing the unsolved deaths of at least 18 prostitutes across the
province, some dating back 20 years.

The oldest case dates back to 1932 and the most recent to April 16, when 20-
year-old prostitute Charlene Gauld's burned body was found near Camrose.

The task force has indicated a serial killer may be responsible for at least
some of the prostitute slayings.

But Anderson yesterday urged against jumping to conclusions. "We have to be
very careful we don't make any speculations ... we don't know exactly what
we're dealing with here. We're really in the dark on this one until we can
get the autopsy back."

An autopsy is planned for tomorrow morning.

Anderson said the female's body had decomposed, but he couldn't speculate on
how long it had been there. The body was clothed and had not been burned, he
said.

'GREAT PRECAUTION'

Joining the KARE team yesterday was the RCMP major crimes unit and forensic
unit. "It's a great precaution to have (KARE) at the ground level at the
beginning," Anderson added.

Jean Archer, whose farm is just south of the latest grisly discovery,
believes a serial killer is at work.

"I think it's somebody who knows the area pretty well," said Archer. "This is
some maniac on a rampage."

About a kilometre north of the field, Sally Froese was shocked when told a
body had been found near her home of three years. Holding her 10-month-old
son in her arms, she said she still feels safe because the area slayings
don't seem random - sex-trade workers seem to be the target. "But still,
someone has lost a loved one."

Today, ground search crews will continue combing the area, looking for clues.

In 1997, 38-year-old mother of three Connie Grandinetti was found dead near
where Quinney's body was found. She'd been shot twice in the back of the head
by her nephew, who was found guilty of murder in the crime.


There is so much bad news about this place, with more and more businesses
leaving town, some quietly, others with bad p.r. sessions!

Trauth is telling the truth, and not even ALL of it.

He is not reporting on the crooks in the city tax department, who got caught
giving a lawyer a discount of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in assessment on his
house, while shafting neighbours with over-assessments!! Corruption, wouldn't
you say?


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Old August 15th, 2005, 03:34 PM
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Subject: Edmonton
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:29:37 GMT

OK, I'm not from Edmonton, have never been there, and don't have a clue
about the place. But I have an old friend who lives there. He said the
following when I asked him if any of these anti-Edmonton messages on
this NG made sense.

"Edmonton does indeed seem to have some sort of a crime problem in the
area just north and east of the downtown area. There seem to be several
rival youth gangs dealing in drugs in the area with attendant shootings,
stabbings and fights. Some of the gangs are native -they used to stay on
the reserves because they would loose their treaty money if they moved
off to the city, now I think they can keep the money if they move to the
city to further their education, or pretend to be furthering their
education. There seem to be several dubious "colleges" in the downtown
area catering to this demand for further education. Other gangs are
oriental- descendants of Viet Namese refugees who came here at the time
of the Viet Nam war. The result is much trouble in the downtown area.
There is also a serial killer on the loose who preys on prostitutes in
the downtown area and dumps the bodies in the rural area south of the city.

"The police , at the same time, seem to be somewhat demoralized (rather
than out of control). There was a recent incident involving an
accusation of police brutality, that eventually led to the firing of the
police chief and much bad publicity."

So make whatever you can of that.



Now media report that Edmonton has more crime per capita than even New York!!
There are even signs at all entrances to West Edmonton Mall, warning those
visiting about high crime in the Mall - rapes, murders,muggings,car
jacking,auto theft,etc...


On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:33:59 -0600, Asterix wrote:

Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


Is that why the incompetent Edmonton police, DO NOT WANT TO ARREST THE KILLER
- because he is one of their own?


From: (glork)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Edmonton Alberta - Haven For Serial Killers
Date: 8 Aug 2005 20:26:30 GMT

INDEPTH: EDMONTON MURDERS
Edmonton's murdered women
CBC News Online | Updated June 20, 2005

EDMONTON MURDERS:
Interactive map & timeline [Flash presentation]
Get Flash player

Police in Edmonton are looking for someone whom many people are calling a
serial killer, targeting women. They have released a profile of a man they
believe has killed several prostitutes and have offered a $100,000 reward for
information leading to his arrest.

The profile prepared by the RCMP's Behavioural Science Branch suggests he:

* Drives a reliable, high-mileage truck, van or sport utility vehicle,
and is comfortable driving in rural areas.
* Likes to hunt, fish, camp or participate in other outdoor activities.
* Has a past or present connection to the area south of Edmonton,
including Leduc, Camrose and New Sarepta.
* May clean his vehicle at odd times of the day.

Since 1983, the bodies of more than 20 Edmonton women have been found. All
are described by police as being prostitutes or having high-risk lifestyles
and only five of the cases have been solved.

The site where remains of 22-year-old Cara King were found in 1997.

The situation has stoked the growing fear in the city's estimated yearly
population of 400 sex trade workers.

Kourch Chan is a social worker with Crossroads, an outreach program for
Edmonton sex trade workers. In an interview with CBC News Online in 2003, he
said many of his clients had been "nervous and quite scared," since the
bodies of Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre were discovered that month. "People
are a little more hesitant to get out," he said. "There's a lot of
speculation that there's one person who could have (committed the murders)."

While RCMP investigators say they have no information to prove any of the
deaths are related, they have joined forces with Edmonton city police to
explore the possibility. City police are reopening all old case files
involving missing women to see if there is any link to the most recent
crimes.

Here is a list of women who have been found under similar circumstances since
1983:

* May 6, 2005:
The body of sex-trade worker Ellie May Meyer, 33, is found near
Sherwood Park.

* April 18, 2005:
RCMP in Alberta identify the body of Charlene Gauld, 20, who burned
remains were found near Camrose.

* Jan. 25, 2005:
The body of 19-year-old Samantha Tayleen Berg is discovered under snow
in a parking lot on Edmonton's North Side. The teenager worked in the sex
trade.

* June 11, 2004
The body of 19-year-old Rachel Quinney is found in a wooded area near
Sherwood Park, an Edmonton suburb.

* July 7, 2003
The body of 40-year-old Katie Sylvia Ballentyne, who worked in the sex
trade, is found in Leduc County, about 20 km south of Edmonton. She is the
fourth female found outside Edmonton in 2003, the fifth in 10 months. Her
body was located in a field near Range Road 235, just north of Township Road
500.

* April 12, 2003
The skull and remains of 29-year-old Debbie Lake, a former prostitute,
are found near Highway 623 near Miquelon Lake Provincial Park, approximately
70 km southeast of Edmonton.

* Jan. 12, 2003
20-year-old Melissa Munch is found dead in a stand of trees on a
farmer's field west of Range Road 220 and south of Highway 16 in Strathcona
County. The discovery is made four days after the body of Monique Pitre was
found less than 10 kilometres away.

There were an estimated 400 sex trade workers in Edmonton in 2003.
* Jan. 8, 2003
The frozen body of Monique Pitre, 30, is found in a field south of Fort
Saskatchewan (Range Road 222 and Township Rd). There is trauma to her entire
body.

* Sept. 23, 2002
The burned body of 28-year-old Edna Bernard is found in a field east of
Leduc, near Range Road 245, north of Highway 623.

* Jan. 27, 2001
24-year-old Kelly Dawn Reilly is found dead behind a gravel operation
in the area of Range Road 264 and secondary highway 633, near Villeneuve.

* Sept. 1, 1997
22-year-old Cara King is found in a canola field in Sherwood Park
(Highway 214 and Hwy. 16), east of Edmonton.

* June 14, 1997
The body of 24-year-old Jessica Cardinal is found in an alley behind a
commercial building at 9325-111th Avenue. Her body is discovered behind a
discarded shelving unit. Edmonton police have no suspect in her death.

* Oct. 19, 1997
The body of Joyce Hewitt is found in Sherwood Park, near 17th Street
and 89th Avenue. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien says Hewitt had a "high-
risk lifestyle." The circumstances of her death were not available.

* Dec. 25, 1996
24-year-old Joanne Ghostkeeper is found strangled in her Edmonton
apartment at 11925-34th Street East. Police have no suspect in her death.

* Feb. 11, 1993
The partially decomposed body of 25-year-old Elaine Ross is found
stuffed under a bed in a motel room on 183rd Street near Stony Plain Road,
Edmonton. Autopsy results were inconclusive and a cause of death is unknown,
but police are treating it as a homicide.

* Dec. 21, 1990
Lorraine Wray, a 46-year-old masseuse and mother of one, is found
strangled in the bathroom of her Edmonton business, West End Studio, at 15526
Stony Plain Road. According to Edmonton police spokesperson Dean Parthenis,
several autopsies were performed, leading investigators to determine "manual
strangulation" as the cause of death.

* Oct. 25, 1990
29-year-old Mavis Mason is found stabbed to death on a rural road west
of Edmonton.

* Oct. 25, 1989
Bernadette Ahenakew, a 22-year-old mother of three, is found dead in a
ditch alongside a rural road near Sherwood Park.

* Sept. 13, 1988
The body of 20-year-old Georgette Flint is found in Elk Island National
Park. An exact cause of death is not determined.

* Sept. 21, 1986
The body of 21-year-old Melodie Joy Riegel is found on a hotel-room
bed. She was last seen entering the hotel with a client.

* 1983
The skeletal remains of 21-year-old Gail Cardinal are found 10
kilometres south of Fort Saskatchewan. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien
says Cardinal had a "high-risk lifestyle." No cause was determined in her
death.

Solved Murders

* 1993: Linda Giles (circumstances unavailable)

* 1996: Charmaine Pidlesny (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Sherry Ann Upright (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Catherine Ann Burrell (circumstances unavailable)

* April 26, 2001: Ginger Lee Bellerose is found in the courtyard area of
Edmonton's International Hotel (since razed). The 26-year-old mother had been
beaten to death. The murder was solved March 14, 2003 and 52-year-old
Medicine Hat resident Richard David Douglas was charged with second-degree
murder. Edmonton police do not suspect this murder was connected with the
others.

Sources: Edmonton Police Service; RCMP; Prostitution Awareness and Action
Foundation of Edmonton; Canadian Press


On 8 Aug 2005 20:31:40 GMT, in can.politics (glork) wrote:

Grisly discovery
Female corpse located in area where others found
By MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN

A female corpse discovered Friday by a farmer tilling his field is just a few
kilometres from where three city prostitutes have been found slain and dumped
in Strathcona County.

"We've had our share of (body) discoveries," Const. Darren Anderson with the
Strathcona County RCMP said yesterday from the scene just east of Highway 21
and north of Township Road 534.

"We do have a lot of isolated areas that I guess are convenient for trying to
dispose of a victim.

"Any death like this is certainly suspicious."

WORKING THE FIELD

The farmer was tilling his field with a tractor about 11 p.m. Friday,
planning to work through the night, when he spotted something strange in the
distance, a few hundred metres into the field, said Anderson.

As soon as the farmer found the body, he called RCMP, and officers sealed off
the area until yesterday morning, when white-suited forensics investigators
arrived and set up a blue tent over the remains.

The scene is only about six kilometres southwest from where the slain body of
Rachel Quinney, 19, was found in June 2004. Two other slain prostitutes were
found near Quinney's remains the year before.

The RCMP-led Project KARE team probing the murders of Edmonton prostitutes
found dumped outside the city is providing assistance with this latest
investigation and was on scene yesterday.

KARE is probing the unsolved deaths of at least 18 prostitutes across the
province, some dating back 20 years.

The oldest case dates back to 1932 and the most recent to April 16, when 20-
year-old prostitute Charlene Gauld's burned body was found near Camrose.

The task force has indicated a serial killer may be responsible for at least
some of the prostitute slayings.

But Anderson yesterday urged against jumping to conclusions. "We have to be
very careful we don't make any speculations ... we don't know exactly what
we're dealing with here. We're really in the dark on this one until we can
get the autopsy back."

An autopsy is planned for tomorrow morning.

Anderson said the female's body had decomposed, but he couldn't speculate on
how long it had been there. The body was clothed and had not been burned, he
said.

'GREAT PRECAUTION'

Joining the KARE team yesterday was the RCMP major crimes unit and forensic
unit. "It's a great precaution to have (KARE) at the ground level at the
beginning," Anderson added.

Jean Archer, whose farm is just south of the latest grisly discovery,
believes a serial killer is at work.

"I think it's somebody who knows the area pretty well," said Archer. "This is
some maniac on a rampage."

About a kilometre north of the field, Sally Froese was shocked when told a
body had been found near her home of three years. Holding her 10-month-old
son in her arms, she said she still feels safe because the area slayings
don't seem random - sex-trade workers seem to be the target. "But still,
someone has lost a loved one."

Today, ground search crews will continue combing the area, looking for clues.

In 1997, 38-year-old mother of three Connie Grandinetti was found dead near
where Quinney's body was found. She'd been shot twice in the back of the head
by her nephew, who was found guilty of murder in the crime.


There is so much bad news about this place, with more and more businesses
leaving town, some quietly, others with bad p.r. sessions!

Trauth is telling the truth, and not even ALL of it.

He is not reporting on the crooks in the city tax department, who got caught
giving a lawyer a discount of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in assessment on his
house, while shafting neighbours with over-assessments!! Corruption, wouldn't
you say?


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Lufthansa has enough sense, to AVOID Edmonton, and fly through Calgary.
They must continue to avoid Edmonton, for their own safety, and that of
passengers.


From: sechumlib
Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada
Subject: Edmonton
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:29:37 GMT

OK, I'm not from Edmonton, have never been there, and don't have a clue
about the place. But I have an old friend who lives there. He said the
following when I asked him if any of these anti-Edmonton messages on
this NG made sense.

"Edmonton does indeed seem to have some sort of a crime problem in the
area just north and east of the downtown area. There seem to be several
rival youth gangs dealing in drugs in the area with attendant shootings,
stabbings and fights. Some of the gangs are native -they used to stay on
the reserves because they would loose their treaty money if they moved
off to the city, now I think they can keep the money if they move to the
city to further their education, or pretend to be furthering their
education. There seem to be several dubious "colleges" in the downtown
area catering to this demand for further education. Other gangs are
oriental- descendants of Viet Namese refugees who came here at the time
of the Viet Nam war. The result is much trouble in the downtown area.
There is also a serial killer on the loose who preys on prostitutes in
the downtown area and dumps the bodies in the rural area south of the city.

"The police , at the same time, seem to be somewhat demoralized (rather
than out of control). There was a recent incident involving an
accusation of police brutality, that eventually led to the firing of the
police chief and much bad publicity."

So make whatever you can of that.



Now media report that Edmonton has more crime per capita than even New York!!
There are even signs at all entrances to West Edmonton Mall, warning those
visiting about high crime in the Mall - rapes, murders,muggings,car
jacking,auto theft,etc...


On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:33:59 -0600, Asterix wrote:

Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?


Is that why the incompetent Edmonton police, DO NOT WANT TO ARREST THE KILLER
- because he is one of their own?


From: (glork)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Edmonton Alberta - Haven For Serial Killers
Date: 8 Aug 2005 20:26:30 GMT

INDEPTH: EDMONTON MURDERS
Edmonton's murdered women
CBC News Online | Updated June 20, 2005

EDMONTON MURDERS:
Interactive map & timeline [Flash presentation]
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Police in Edmonton are looking for someone whom many people are calling a
serial killer, targeting women. They have released a profile of a man they
believe has killed several prostitutes and have offered a $100,000 reward for
information leading to his arrest.

The profile prepared by the RCMP's Behavioural Science Branch suggests he:

* Drives a reliable, high-mileage truck, van or sport utility vehicle,
and is comfortable driving in rural areas.
* Likes to hunt, fish, camp or participate in other outdoor activities.
* Has a past or present connection to the area south of Edmonton,
including Leduc, Camrose and New Sarepta.
* May clean his vehicle at odd times of the day.

Since 1983, the bodies of more than 20 Edmonton women have been found. All
are described by police as being prostitutes or having high-risk lifestyles
and only five of the cases have been solved.

The site where remains of 22-year-old Cara King were found in 1997.

The situation has stoked the growing fear in the city's estimated yearly
population of 400 sex trade workers.

Kourch Chan is a social worker with Crossroads, an outreach program for
Edmonton sex trade workers. In an interview with CBC News Online in 2003, he
said many of his clients had been "nervous and quite scared," since the
bodies of Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre were discovered that month. "People
are a little more hesitant to get out," he said. "There's a lot of
speculation that there's one person who could have (committed the murders)."

While RCMP investigators say they have no information to prove any of the
deaths are related, they have joined forces with Edmonton city police to
explore the possibility. City police are reopening all old case files
involving missing women to see if there is any link to the most recent
crimes.

Here is a list of women who have been found under similar circumstances since
1983:

* May 6, 2005:
The body of sex-trade worker Ellie May Meyer, 33, is found near
Sherwood Park.

* April 18, 2005:
RCMP in Alberta identify the body of Charlene Gauld, 20, who burned
remains were found near Camrose.

* Jan. 25, 2005:
The body of 19-year-old Samantha Tayleen Berg is discovered under snow
in a parking lot on Edmonton's North Side. The teenager worked in the sex
trade.

* June 11, 2004
The body of 19-year-old Rachel Quinney is found in a wooded area near
Sherwood Park, an Edmonton suburb.

* July 7, 2003
The body of 40-year-old Katie Sylvia Ballentyne, who worked in the sex
trade, is found in Leduc County, about 20 km south of Edmonton. She is the
fourth female found outside Edmonton in 2003, the fifth in 10 months. Her
body was located in a field near Range Road 235, just north of Township Road
500.

* April 12, 2003
The skull and remains of 29-year-old Debbie Lake, a former prostitute,
are found near Highway 623 near Miquelon Lake Provincial Park, approximately
70 km southeast of Edmonton.

* Jan. 12, 2003
20-year-old Melissa Munch is found dead in a stand of trees on a
farmer's field west of Range Road 220 and south of Highway 16 in Strathcona
County. The discovery is made four days after the body of Monique Pitre was
found less than 10 kilometres away.

There were an estimated 400 sex trade workers in Edmonton in 2003.
* Jan. 8, 2003
The frozen body of Monique Pitre, 30, is found in a field south of Fort
Saskatchewan (Range Road 222 and Township Rd). There is trauma to her entire
body.

* Sept. 23, 2002
The burned body of 28-year-old Edna Bernard is found in a field east of
Leduc, near Range Road 245, north of Highway 623.

* Jan. 27, 2001
24-year-old Kelly Dawn Reilly is found dead behind a gravel operation
in the area of Range Road 264 and secondary highway 633, near Villeneuve.

* Sept. 1, 1997
22-year-old Cara King is found in a canola field in Sherwood Park
(Highway 214 and Hwy. 16), east of Edmonton.

* June 14, 1997
The body of 24-year-old Jessica Cardinal is found in an alley behind a
commercial building at 9325-111th Avenue. Her body is discovered behind a
discarded shelving unit. Edmonton police have no suspect in her death.

* Oct. 19, 1997
The body of Joyce Hewitt is found in Sherwood Park, near 17th Street
and 89th Avenue. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien says Hewitt had a "high-
risk lifestyle." The circumstances of her death were not available.

* Dec. 25, 1996
24-year-old Joanne Ghostkeeper is found strangled in her Edmonton
apartment at 11925-34th Street East. Police have no suspect in her death.

* Feb. 11, 1993
The partially decomposed body of 25-year-old Elaine Ross is found
stuffed under a bed in a motel room on 183rd Street near Stony Plain Road,
Edmonton. Autopsy results were inconclusive and a cause of death is unknown,
but police are treating it as a homicide.

* Dec. 21, 1990
Lorraine Wray, a 46-year-old masseuse and mother of one, is found
strangled in the bathroom of her Edmonton business, West End Studio, at 15526
Stony Plain Road. According to Edmonton police spokesperson Dean Parthenis,
several autopsies were performed, leading investigators to determine "manual
strangulation" as the cause of death.

* Oct. 25, 1990
29-year-old Mavis Mason is found stabbed to death on a rural road west
of Edmonton.

* Oct. 25, 1989
Bernadette Ahenakew, a 22-year-old mother of three, is found dead in a
ditch alongside a rural road near Sherwood Park.

* Sept. 13, 1988
The body of 20-year-old Georgette Flint is found in Elk Island National
Park. An exact cause of death is not determined.

* Sept. 21, 1986
The body of 21-year-old Melodie Joy Riegel is found on a hotel-room
bed. She was last seen entering the hotel with a client.

* 1983
The skeletal remains of 21-year-old Gail Cardinal are found 10
kilometres south of Fort Saskatchewan. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne Beaubien
says Cardinal had a "high-risk lifestyle." No cause was determined in her
death.

Solved Murders

* 1993: Linda Giles (circumstances unavailable)

* 1996: Charmaine Pidlesny (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Sherry Ann Upright (circumstances unavailable)

* 1999: Catherine Ann Burrell (circumstances unavailable)

* April 26, 2001: Ginger Lee Bellerose is found in the courtyard area of
Edmonton's International Hotel (since razed). The 26-year-old mother had been
beaten to death. The murder was solved March 14, 2003 and 52-year-old
Medicine Hat resident Richard David Douglas was charged with second-degree
murder. Edmonton police do not suspect this murder was connected with the
others.

Sources: Edmonton Police Service; RCMP; Prostitution Awareness and Action
Foundation of Edmonton; Canadian Press


On 8 Aug 2005 20:31:40 GMT, in can.politics (glork) wrote:

Grisly discovery
Female corpse located in area where others found
By MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN

A female corpse discovered Friday by a farmer tilling his field is just a few
kilometres from where three city prostitutes have been found slain and dumped
in Strathcona County.

"We've had our share of (body) discoveries," Const. Darren Anderson with the
Strathcona County RCMP said yesterday from the scene just east of Highway 21
and north of Township Road 534.

"We do have a lot of isolated areas that I guess are convenient for trying to
dispose of a victim.

"Any death like this is certainly suspicious."

WORKING THE FIELD

The farmer was tilling his field with a tractor about 11 p.m. Friday,
planning to work through the night, when he spotted something strange in the
distance, a few hundred metres into the field, said Anderson.

As soon as the farmer found the body, he called RCMP, and officers sealed off
the area until yesterday morning, when white-suited forensics investigators
arrived and set up a blue tent over the remains.

The scene is only about six kilometres southwest from where the slain body of
Rachel Quinney, 19, was found in June 2004. Two other slain prostitutes were
found near Quinney's remains the year before.

The RCMP-led Project KARE team probing the murders of Edmonton prostitutes
found dumped outside the city is providing assistance with this latest
investigation and was on scene yesterday.

KARE is probing the unsolved deaths of at least 18 prostitutes across the
province, some dating back 20 years.

The oldest case dates back to 1932 and the most recent to April 16, when 20-
year-old prostitute Charlene Gauld's burned body was found near Camrose.

The task force has indicated a serial killer may be responsible for at least
some of the prostitute slayings.

But Anderson yesterday urged against jumping to conclusions. "We have to be
very careful we don't make any speculations ... we don't know exactly what
we're dealing with here. We're really in the dark on this one until we can
get the autopsy back."

An autopsy is planned for tomorrow morning.

Anderson said the female's body had decomposed, but he couldn't speculate on
how long it had been there. The body was clothed and had not been burned, he
said.

'GREAT PRECAUTION'

Joining the KARE team yesterday was the RCMP major crimes unit and forensic
unit. "It's a great precaution to have (KARE) at the ground level at the
beginning," Anderson added.

Jean Archer, whose farm is just south of the latest grisly discovery,
believes a serial killer is at work.

"I think it's somebody who knows the area pretty well," said Archer. "This is
some maniac on a rampage."

About a kilometre north of the field, Sally Froese was shocked when told a
body had been found near her home of three years. Holding her 10-month-old
son in her arms, she said she still feels safe because the area slayings
don't seem random - sex-trade workers seem to be the target. "But still,
someone has lost a loved one."

Today, ground search crews will continue combing the area, looking for clues.

In 1997, 38-year-old mother of three Connie Grandinetti was found dead near
where Quinney's body was found. She'd been shot twice in the back of the head
by her nephew, who was found guilty of murder in the crime.


There is so much bad news about this place, with more and more businesses
leaving town, some quietly, others with bad p.r. sessions!

Trauth is telling the truth, and not even ALL of it.

He is not reporting on the crooks in the city tax department, who got caught
giving a lawyer a discount of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in assessment on his
house, while shafting neighbours with over-assessments!! Corruption, wouldn't
you say?


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