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An Outsider's Overview of Public Transport in Gauteng
This is what I know so far about public transport in Gauteng, South
Africa. Remember, this is coming from someone who's never been in South Africa, just read a lot about it. Let me know if any of this is on or off the mark... Metrorail An electric commuter rail system serving the suburbs around Johannesburg and Pretoria. Not too well kept up, in general. Big problems with overcrowding, crime and vandalism (people stealing the copper catenary wires, etc.). Metrobus City bus system formed in 2000 out of the bus systems in Johannesburg and Roodesport. Wonderful looking new Volvo double deckers, but still a lot of older buses on the road. Core services radiate from Joburg CBD, not all that different from several decades ago. Limited service into Rosebank, Sandton and Soweto (but most of that latter market locked up by Putco and other operators). Other suburbs (Alexandria, Ivory Park, etc.) have little to no service. Good maps are now almost impossible to get. Schedule information on website (mbus.co.za) unclear. Pretoria (oops, Tshwane) Municipal Transport I think all they did was paint over "Pretoria" with "Tshwane" on the buses. Routes haven't changed in years! Other municipal bus lines Small bus systems operate in the neighbouring cities of Germiston, Brakpan, Springs and Vereeniging. At one time Germiston ran a bus to downtown Johannesburg. (I think it still does). Again, it's very difficult to find out anything substantial about any of these services on the Internet.... Putco Private bus company, main focus is commuter service from Soweto and other black suburbs/townships. Much less service than in years past, as many people shunned it in favour of taxis. 90% of service is peak-hour. Marvellous new website and pictures of good looking buses, but reportedly, most buses still older, badly maintained, dirty. Schedule information impossible to get. There are other private bus companies that run similar services, such as the North Star company running between Pretoria and various suburbs in Tshwane. Taxis Probably THE most used form of public transport anywhere in South Africa. Not to be confused with metered cabs, these are typically 15-passenger vans (more or less) that run on fixed routes. They go a lot of places where other public transport doesn't. Often overcrowded, badly maintained, driven in an unsafe manner (speeding, stopping in traffic, etc.) Competition between taxi companies has often become violent. A recapitalisation program, replacing some of the most unroadworthy vehicles, and perhaps even a subsidy program is under consideration. Gautrain New high speed system connecting Joburg and Pretoria, and Sandton and the international Airport. This is a Big Project. There are questions about cost-effectiveness and equity. Rea Vaya A proposed bus rapid transit system in Joburg, with exclusive bus lanes. Existing operators (Metrobus, Putco, Taxis) encouraged to bid on routes. |
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An Outsider's Overview of Public Transport in Gauteng
Seems pretty much on the button to me. WHy are you studying the public
transport system here? Marc On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:30:04 -0000, cph wrote: This is what I know so far about public transport in Gauteng, South Africa. Remember, this is coming from someone who's never been in South Africa, just read a lot about it. Let me know if any of this is on or off the mark... Metrorail An electric commuter rail system serving the suburbs around Johannesburg and Pretoria. Not too well kept up, in general. Big problems with overcrowding, crime and vandalism (people stealing the copper catenary wires, etc.). Metrobus City bus system formed in 2000 out of the bus systems in Johannesburg and Roodesport. Wonderful looking new Volvo double deckers, but still a lot of older buses on the road. Core services radiate from Joburg CBD, not all that different from several decades ago. Limited service into Rosebank, Sandton and Soweto (but most of that latter market locked up by Putco and other operators). Other suburbs (Alexandria, Ivory Park, etc.) have little to no service. Good maps are now almost impossible to get. Schedule information on website (mbus.co.za) unclear. Pretoria (oops, Tshwane) Municipal Transport I think all they did was paint over "Pretoria" with "Tshwane" on the buses. Routes haven't changed in years! Other municipal bus lines Small bus systems operate in the neighbouring cities of Germiston, Brakpan, Springs and Vereeniging. At one time Germiston ran a bus to downtown Johannesburg. (I think it still does). Again, it's very difficult to find out anything substantial about any of these services on the Internet.... Putco Private bus company, main focus is commuter service from Soweto and other black suburbs/townships. Much less service than in years past, as many people shunned it in favour of taxis. 90% of service is peak-hour. Marvellous new website and pictures of good looking buses, but reportedly, most buses still older, badly maintained, dirty. Schedule information impossible to get. There are other private bus companies that run similar services, such as the North Star company running between Pretoria and various suburbs in Tshwane. Taxis Probably THE most used form of public transport anywhere in South Africa. Not to be confused with metered cabs, these are typically 15-passenger vans (more or less) that run on fixed routes. They go a lot of places where other public transport doesn't. Often overcrowded, badly maintained, driven in an unsafe manner (speeding, stopping in traffic, etc.) Competition between taxi companies has often become violent. A recapitalisation program, replacing some of the most unroadworthy vehicles, and perhaps even a subsidy program is under consideration. Gautrain New high speed system connecting Joburg and Pretoria, and Sandton and the international Airport. This is a Big Project. There are questions about cost-effectiveness and equity. Rea Vaya A proposed bus rapid transit system in Joburg, with exclusive bus lanes. Existing operators (Metrobus, Putco, Taxis) encouraged to bid on routes. |
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An Outsider's Overview of Public Transport in Gauteng
On Jun 7, 11:30 pm, cph wrote:
This is what I know so far about public transport in Gauteng, South Africa. Remember, this is coming from someone who's never been in South Africa, just read a lot about it. Let me know if any of this is on or off the mark... Metrorail An electric commuter rail system serving the suburbs around Johannesburg and Pretoria. Not too well kept up, in general. Big problems with overcrowding, crime and vandalism (people stealing the copper catenary wires, etc.). Metrobus City bus system formed in 2000 out of the bus systems in Johannesburg and Roodesport. Wonderful looking new Volvo double deckers, but still a lot of older buses on the road. Core services radiate from Joburg CBD, not all that different from several decades ago. Limited service into Rosebank, Sandton and Soweto (but most of that latter market locked up by Putco and other operators). Other suburbs (Alexandria, Ivory Park, etc.) have little to no service. Good maps are now almost impossible to get. Schedule information on website (mbus.co.za) unclear. Pretoria (oops, Tshwane) Municipal Transport I think all they did was paint over "Pretoria" with "Tshwane" on the buses. Routes haven't changed in years! Other municipal bus lines Small bus systems operate in the neighbouring cities of Germiston, Brakpan, Springs and Vereeniging. At one time Germiston ran a bus to downtown Johannesburg. (I think it still does). Again, it's very difficult to find out anything substantial about any of these services on the Internet.... Putco Private bus company, main focus is commuter service from Soweto and other black suburbs/townships. Much less service than in years past, as many people shunned it in favour of taxis. 90% of service is peak-hour. Marvellous new website and pictures of good looking buses, but reportedly, most buses still older, badly maintained, dirty. Schedule information impossible to get. There are other private bus companies that run similar services, such as the North Star company running between Pretoria and various suburbs in Tshwane. Taxis Probably THE most used form of public transport anywhere in South Africa. Not to be confused with metered cabs, these are typically 15-passenger vans (more or less) that run on fixed routes. They go a lot of places where other public transport doesn't. Often overcrowded, badly maintained, driven in an unsafe manner (speeding, stopping in traffic, etc.) Competition between taxi companies has often become violent. A recapitalisation program, replacing some of the most unroadworthy vehicles, and perhaps even a subsidy program is under consideration. Gautrain New high speed system connecting Joburg and Pretoria, and Sandton and the international Airport. This is a Big Project. There are questions about cost-effectiveness and equity. Rea Vaya A proposed bus rapid transit system in Joburg, with exclusive bus lanes. Existing operators (Metrobus, Putco, Taxis) encouraged to bid on routes. The mini-bus taxis work extremely effectively for a whole variety of things. Recently I needed to transport 40 women to a function and back. We used mini-bus taxis. The taxi drivers arrived at the appointed place at the appointed hour. They provided us with their cell phone numbers for the return trip arrangements. Again they arrived at the appointed place at the appointed hour. The service was efficient, cheap and friendly. In the days when I used public transport myself I found that the buses were expensive, few and far between and always on strike. The only reason I used them was because they ran right past my home at a ridiculous time of the morning which suited me. The taxis were more efficient even then, and when the buses were on strike they were a viable alternative, albeit a much longer walk for me. |
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An Outsider's Overview of Public Transport in Gauteng
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:30:04 -0000, cph wrote:
This is what I know so far about public transport in Gauteng, South Africa. Remember, this is coming from someone who's never been in South Africa, just read a lot about it. Let me know if any of this is on or off the mark... Metrorail An electric commuter rail system serving the suburbs around Johannesburg and Pretoria. Not too well kept up, in general. Big problems with overcrowding, crime and vandalism (people stealing the copper catenary wires, etc.). The trains are filthy and dangerous - as are the stations. And the rail does NOT run into suburbs in any meaningfull way. You'll get mugged around the station, in the station and in the train - in general. Last year when a strike was on, a number of people on the way to work was killed by allegedly striking workers throwing them off the speeding train. Sometimes the commuters get ****ed off and set a train - or even a station - on fire. Metrobus City bus system formed in 2000 out of the bus systems in Johannesburg and Roodesport. Wonderful looking new Volvo double deckers, but still a lot of older buses on the road. Core services radiate from Joburg CBD, not all that different from several decades ago. Limited service into Rosebank, Sandton and Soweto (but most of that latter market locked up by Putco and other operators). Other suburbs (Alexandria, Ivory Park, etc.) have little to no service. Good maps are now almost impossible to get. Schedule information on website (mbus.co.za) unclear. Funny thing about the Volvo's. It was bought apparently because the ANC has strong links with Sweden that supported them during apartheid. It is just that Sweden is a coldish country while Johannesburg is very hot and dry in summer. The result is that many of these busses are seen broken down on the roads in summer. Anyway, Jhb's Metrobus is more or less organised as you say, but the busses are not reliably on time. Sometimes they don't pitch and sometimes they don't even stop. The city's roads are congested and a bit narrow in places so the busses move slow in peak time and many times block roads as they double park when they are either too lazy to stop properly at the bus stop or when other vehicles illegally park in the bus stops. They are rarely if ever fined for doing that, these other vehicles. Taveling by Metro bus can mostly be done around the city but it is SLOW stavel, to a degree unreliable (don't take the bus to an exam!) and only available in day light hours. Taxis Probably THE most used form of public transport anywhere in South Africa. Not to be confused with metered cabs, these are typically 15-passenger vans (more or less) that run on fixed routes. They go a lot of places where other public transport doesn't. Often overcrowded, badly maintained, driven in an unsafe manner (speeding, stopping in traffic, etc.) Competition between taxi companies has often become violent. A recapitalisation program, replacing some of the most unroadworthy vehicles, and perhaps even a subsidy program is under consideration. More or less correct. Gautrain New high speed system connecting Joburg and Pretoria, and Sandton and the international Airport. This is a Big Project. There are questions about cost-effectiveness and equity. It will hopefully be the first leg of a decent subway system. It will probably be cost effective as it will service a highway that is ALWAYS blocked with traffic. But success will hinge on transport to and from the Gautrain stations (see the problem here described in the above segments.) Rea Vaya A proposed bus rapid transit system in Joburg, with exclusive bus lanes. Existing operators (Metrobus, Putco, Taxis) encouraged to bid on routes. Work is starting here and there on roads. To make it work, will take a massive rebuilding of roads all over the city. |
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An Outsider's Overview of Public Transport in Gauteng
On Jun 7, 11:57 pm, Marc Lurie
wrote: Seems pretty much on the button to me. WHy are you studying the public transport system here? Curiosity and interest in public transit systems worldwide. |
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An Outsider's Overview of Public Transport in Gauteng
OK then.I guess it takes all types to make a world :-)
Have you looked at the public transport system in Kampala, Uganda? They use little 50cc motorcycles called "Boda Bodas" (from the noise that they make I think). You sometimes see three or more people on one tiny little motorbike. On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:27:42 -0000, cph wrote: Curiosity and interest in public transit systems worldwide. |
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