Flight Change Nonsense

On Nov 27, 7:57 pm, "Sarah Banick" wrote:
Every once and a bit I find some flight I can use them on. We burned a
bunch of Delta by going ahead and using the "double miles" option.
They were just wasting away so what the heck. Because we spent
so many, we were booked into FC for the intracontinental flight.
I also managed to use them on a relatively short "commuter" flight
once.

I guess I've been incredibly lucky -- I've used miles for 3 roundtrip
flights to Eastern Europe (2 to Croatia, 1 to Bulgaria). (and 1 Hawaii and 1
Antigua) I hope to repeat this feat somewhere next spring. I did fly 4 or
5 times a year for a client for a few years, and the rest were acquired via
a Delta AmEx. I've never had any issues or problems (knock on wood) although
the scheduling added an extra flight or so. I'll admit, I've had plenty of
flexibilty each time and I mostly travel off season. But there is no way I
could ever afford the tickets to Eastern Europe without my miles; that's why
I've never used them for Western Europe.

There are several variables which influence the problem. Your
point of departure is a big one. Here in Mouse Land, alot of folks
are trying to use their miles to fly to see Mickey. So seats in
and out of here go fast. Your destination city, and any hub points
you typically have to go through, also can severely limit your seats.
Going to eastern europe, in the off season, might be significantly
easier, especially depending upon the route and point of departure.

John schrieb:
"Tchiowa" wrote in message
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On Nov 27, 7:06 am, "John" wrote:
"tim (not at home)" wrote in
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4 weeks ago, I booked a round trip LON to CPH with SAS for the second
week
in Dec, using my LH M&M points.
This weekend, I get a call from LH telling me that the flight is
cancelled
and I have to transfer onto an alternative and they give me a choice of
the last flight of the day (which potentially leaves me stranded in CPH
with no onward connection to my local apartment) or an early flight
requiring me to start at 5:30 in the morning (I know that some people
do
this happily, but I don't).
I protest that there are other flights with availability, but I am told
that since I booked with LH I am only entitled to move on to a flight
that
LH still have an allocation on.
I think that sucks. If I wanted to have to choose from the crappy
flights
I wouldn't have booked 7 weeks ahead. My view is that it is SAS who
have
cancelled the flight, so it is SAS that should rebook me from their
allocation and not bounce the problem back to LH.
Guess which airline will not be getting any more of my business whilst
I
am working here?
tim
I'm 50 years old and never flown anywhere and I'm not bothered if I ever
do
(started to "go abroad" for holidays 17 years ago but prefer the
convenience
of driving into europe - you get to bring back an entire bootful of booze
)) but it always rankles me that people who fly often get the chance
(via
points, frequent-flyer miles or whatever) to fly more, so that people who
have to fly a lot for business (paid for by the company) then get the
"perks" or "bonus" of flying privately for pleasure.

It seems to me that it should be people who can't otherwise afford to fly
anywhere who should get the breaks as it could well be a "once in a
lifetime" experience for them.
Sorry, but that makes no sense. Regular flyers earn the privileges.
The airlines give regular flyers better treatment to help get their
business.

Why should the once in a lifetime flyer get the benefits effectively
paid for by the frequent flyer?

Craig is right. Your Socialist dream is a nightmare.

Most regular flyers don't *earn* the privileges. They are on business, being
paid a monthly salary or whatever by their company. Even when they're sat in
their seat on the aircraft (a seat paid for by their company, btw) they are
"on salary" or "on works time" so if, as you say, the airlines give better
treatment to help get their business, any "privileges" should be given to
the company, not the individual person flying.

It still strikes me as being grossly unfair that someone should get free
flights to use personally for pleasure, merely because of the fact that they
have to fly a lot because of the job they do.

John



I am one of the exceptions, maybe. I commute every week by air, and the
money comes out of my own pocket.

T.

Most regular flyers don't *earn* the privileges. They are on business,
being paid a monthly salary or whatever by their company. Even when
they're sat in their seat on the aircraft (a seat paid for by their
company, btw) they are "on salary" or "on works time" so if, as you
say, the airlines give better treatment to help get their business,
any "privileges" should be given to the company, not the individual
person flying.

It still strikes me as being grossly unfair that someone should get
free flights to use personally for pleasure, merely because of the
fact that they have to fly a lot because of the job they do.

John


I am one of the exceptions, maybe. I commute every week by air, and the
money comes out of my own pocket.

T.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that our daughter flies twice a year
transatlantic to get to college. No company paying for that either.

T.

"TEP" wrote in message
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Most regular flyers don't *earn* the privileges. They are on business,
being paid a monthly salary or whatever by their company. Even when
they're sat in their seat on the aircraft (a seat paid for by their
company, btw) they are "on salary" or "on works time" so if, as you say,
the airlines give better treatment to help get their business, any
"privileges" should be given to the company, not the individual person
flying.

It still strikes me as being grossly unfair that someone should get free
flights to use personally for pleasure, merely because of the fact that
they have to fly a lot because of the job they do.

John


I am one of the exceptions, maybe. I commute every week by air, and the
money comes out of my own pocket.

T.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that our daughter flies twice a year
transatlantic to get to college. No company paying for that either.

In that case, my friend, you *certainly earn* your FF miles )

We have a friend who lives in France and does a daily commute on the ferry
back to England to work (self-employed farrier), driving anywhere between
300 and 400 miles daily, but that's his own personal choice.

John

"John" kirjoitti
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We have a friend who lives in France and does a daily commute on the ferry
back to England to work (self-employed farrier), driving anywhere between
300 and 400 miles daily, but that's his own personal choice.

Perhaps you meant to say riding anywhere... rather than driving?

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"John" kirjoitti
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We have a friend who lives in France and does a daily commute on the
ferry back to England to work (self-employed farrier), driving anywhere
between 300 and 400 miles daily, but that's his own personal choice.

Perhaps you meant to say riding anywhere... rather than driving?

Heehee, that would be some horse eh? )

John

"mrtravel" wrote in message
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tim (not at home) wrote:


If the airline cancels it's the airline's responsibility to reroute me,
not mine,.

You left out the part "within the rules of the fare purchased"

No I didn't, when the airline cancel that rule is voided

Tim

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:49:23 GMT, Craig Welch wrote:

"John" said:

"Brian" wrote in message

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:40:00 -0000, "John" wrote:

I value my time too much to work for nothing - if I'm doing something for
the company, they are paying me, either in money or time off in lieu, but
if
they want me to do something for nothing, then no, that's not on.

Out of curiosity, are you a union member?

Yes, I am, and proud of it. However, I don't see what that's got to do with
anything in this context.

Is it clear to you how Brian discerned that you're in a union?

Because he's paid for what he does? Just a wild guess.

DaveM

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:49:23 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote:


Is it clear to you how Brian discerned that you're in a union?

I'm curious whether he can tell.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:50:52 -0000, "John" wrote:


Certainly do. If my wife can come with me, she does, and we treat it just
like a mini-holiday, going out every night to
restaurants/bars/sightseeing/whatever. And why not?

John

Are you being paid for that time?