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Old April 4th, 2005, 12:01 AM
Keith W
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Keith W writes:

In fact the 'lab prints' for digital images increasingly use advanced ink
jet printers like the Giclée PrintMakerFA from ColorSpan.


Most of them are using Fuji Frontier printers, which use standard
chemical processes.


Not quite

The Frontier printer uses RGB lasers to expose the photographic paper,
and they then process the prints in a modified RA4 chemistry using
CP-48S chemicals and for best effects Fuji Crystal Archive paper.

Fuji have recently introduced the Fuji Pictrography 4500 which
uses Laser Exposure * Thermal Development * Dye * Transfer Process
which they claim to have better performance.

Keith


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Old April 4th, 2005, 05:26 AM
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Keith W writes:

The Frontier printer uses RGB lasers to expose the photographic paper,
and they then process the prints in a modified RA4 chemistry using
CP-48S chemicals and for best effects Fuji Crystal Archive paper.


Same thing.

Fuji have recently introduced the Fuji Pictrography 4500 which
uses Laser Exposure * Thermal Development * Dye * Transfer Process
which they claim to have better performance.


Potentially similar, although I haven't seen it yet.

The important thing is to avoid printing with opaque inks, ink-jet
style. The best printing methods use overlapping colored dyes, and thus
combine very high resolution with very accurate color reproduction and a
good gamut.

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Old April 4th, 2005, 08:07 AM
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Keith W writes:

The Frontier printer uses RGB lasers to expose the photographic paper,
and they then process the prints in a modified RA4 chemistry using
CP-48S chemicals and for best effects Fuji Crystal Archive paper.


Same thing.


Not ardly

Fuji have recently introduced the Fuji Pictrography 4500 which
uses Laser Exposure * Thermal Development * Dye * Transfer Process
which they claim to have better performance.


Potentially similar, although I haven't seen it yet.


Nothing like. It uses a dry dye sublimation method, no printing chemicals
are involved

The important thing is to avoid printing with opaque inks, ink-jet
style. The best printing methods use overlapping colored dyes, and thus
combine very high resolution with very accurate color reproduction and a
good gamut.


10 years ago this would have been correct

Keith


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Old April 4th, 2005, 09:58 AM
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Following up to poldy

Note, digital photo prints outlast silver halide-derived prints?


Do they? They certainly are more reliable than a hard drive or CD
in some hostage to fortune format.

I just had another look at digital, you still cant get a setup
including a decent wide angle lens for sensible money.
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Old April 4th, 2005, 09:58 AM
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Following up to poldy

Note, digital photo prints outlast silver halide-derived prints?


Do they? They certainly are more reliable than a hard drive or CD
in some hostage to fortune format.

I just had another look at digital, you still cant get a setup
including a decent wide angle lens for sensible money.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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Old April 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM
Mxsmanic
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Keith W writes:

Not ardly


Photographic paper and chemicals. Same thing.

Nothing like. It uses a dry dye sublimation method, no printing chemicals
are involved


Nevertheless, it uses superimposed dyes, rather than opaque inks.
That's hugely different from ink-jet printing, and considerably
superior.

10 years ago this would have been correct


It's correct even today, and is the major drawback of ink-jet printing.
It's a drawback shared to some extent by commercial offset and similar
printing methods.

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Old April 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM
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Keith W writes:

Not ardly


Photographic paper and chemicals. Same thing.

Nothing like. It uses a dry dye sublimation method, no printing chemicals
are involved


Nevertheless, it uses superimposed dyes, rather than opaque inks.
That's hugely different from ink-jet printing, and considerably
superior.

10 years ago this would have been correct


It's correct even today, and is the major drawback of ink-jet printing.
It's a drawback shared to some extent by commercial offset and similar
printing methods.

--
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Old April 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM
Mxsmanic
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Keith W writes:

Not ardly


Photographic paper and chemicals. Same thing.

Nothing like. It uses a dry dye sublimation method, no printing chemicals
are involved


Nevertheless, it uses superimposed dyes, rather than opaque inks.
That's hugely different from ink-jet printing, and considerably
superior.

10 years ago this would have been correct


It's correct even today, and is the major drawback of ink-jet printing.
It's a drawback shared to some extent by commercial offset and similar
printing methods.

--
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Old April 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM
Mxsmanic
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The Reids writes:

I just had another look at digital, you still cant get a setup
including a decent wide angle lens for sensible money.


You can print any photo captured with any technology using any printing
method (except that you cannot print electronically-captured photos with
enlargers, as a general rule).

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Old April 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM
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The Reids writes:

I just had another look at digital, you still cant get a setup
including a decent wide angle lens for sensible money.


You can print any photo captured with any technology using any printing
method (except that you cannot print electronically-captured photos with
enlargers, as a general rule).

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