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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
rom wrote:
American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity Associated Press NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based airline said Saturday. Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said. The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner said. The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the flight to talk about his first announcement. Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the company had guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned to work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica. "It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said. http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm I believe I may have flown with this pilot before. He has a big old sticker on his flight bag that says "My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter" and parades around the gate area before boarding making sure all passengers see it. We also got a long rambling sermon on the plane right after we took off. Freaked me out completely. I thought of writing AA about it but didn't get around to it. Now I wish I had. |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:20:40 -0700, "gk" wrote:
"E.E.Bud Keith" wrote in message ... And just what is that we call you, the guy was not harming a sole but you compassionate liberals go for the jugular just because you disagree with him. So he made and announcement but no one was forced to do as he suggested. You jack ass libs are always spouting about peace and dialogs, perhaps all he was attempting to do was create and atmosphere in which people might talk to and learn from each other. But of course biased people like you would not even consider that, off with his head, right? His job is to fly the ****ing plane from point A to point B, not make the non-Christian passengers uncomfortable (and probably a lot of the Christian ones, too). He deserves to lose his job. Yep. |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
"John" wrote in message ... rom wrote: I believe I may have flown with this pilot before. He has a big old sticker on his flight bag that says "My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter" and parades around the gate area before boarding making sure all passengers see it. We also got a long rambling sermon on the plane right after we took off. Freaked me out completely. I thought of writing AA about it but didn't get around to it. Now I wish I had. It's never too late! -- ***/***/*** When life gives you lemons Skull**** everyone in sight! http://wonderofitall.com/ ***/***/*** |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 10:27:03 -0500, John wrote:
rom wrote: American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity Associated Press NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based airline said Saturday. Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said. The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner said. The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the flight to talk about his first announcement. Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the company had guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned to work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica. "It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said. http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm I believe I may have flown with this pilot before. He has a big old sticker on his flight bag that says "My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter" and parades around the gate area before boarding making sure all passengers see it. We also got a long rambling sermon on the plane right after we took off. Freaked me out completely. I thought of writing AA about it but didn't get around to it. Now I wish I had. What sort of athmosphere does it create on the flight deck? Do other crew refuse to fly with him? Or is it like school sports where if you're not one of them you're simply not part of the team because everybody has to be on the same wavelength? There was a fatal crash in Britain many years ago when a Trident finished up in the sewage works west of Heathrow because the crew didn't get on with the captain (but not because he was a religious asshole, just an asshole). |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:44:01 GMT, a stranger called by some BTR1701 came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism In article , Douglas Berry wrote: When I fly, I'm paying the airline to transport me from point A to point B in a safe, comfortable manner. Being a captive audience when the religious nutso pilot pretty much tells the Christians on the plane to bug the non-Christians for the entire flight would **** me off.. I'd file a lawsuit against American had I been on that flight. You could file a lawsuit but you'd have no grounds for it. American Airlines is a private company. They can plaster the inside of their airplane cabins with bible verses if that's what they want to do. The captain of the plane is NOT ":American Airlines". |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
"ZenIsWhen" wrote in message
... The captain of the plane is NOT ":American Airlines". Oh yes he is!! The pilot fully represents that airline everytime he dons the uniform and crawls into the cockpit! It says so in AA's own employee policy manual. The employees ARE the airline! If the airline condones what he did, then they airline is saying they agree, and that it is their policy to do such things. -- ***/***/*** When life gives you lemons Skull**** everyone in sight! http://wonderofitall.com/ ***/***/*** |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 06:02:40 +0000, mrraveltay wrote:
Douglas Berry wrote: When I fly, I'm paying the airline to transport me from point A to point B in a safe, comfortable manner. Being a captive audience when the religious nutso pilot pretty much tells the Christians on the plane to bug the non-Christians for the entire flight would **** me off.. I'd file a lawsuit against American had I been on that flight. A lawsuit??? Were you really harmed by this? Do you think it AA condones this behavior? Clearly, the pilot did this on his own. It was in poor taste, perhaps, but certainly nothing to sue over. But certainly the case for requesting a public apology on the PA system right away. And be willing to deal with homeland security and perhpas a visit to a jail until the guy would indeed publically apologize. |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
"Matt Silberstein" matts2nopam@ix netcom.nospamcom wrote in message ... His actions were clearly and grossly inappropriate. Whether they were to the level of loosing his job depends on job rules. But they are certainly wrong from a Christian standpoint. You should not use your power of life and death, like being a pilot, to try to lead people to Christ. You don't get open and honest responses that way. Also ... were I on that plane .. I would wonder just how deranged and fanatic the pilot was ........... would he decide to take some other inappropriate actin based on his extremist views? So he made and announcement but no one was forced to do as he suggested. You jack ass libs are always spouting about peace and dialogs, perhaps all he was attempting to do was create and atmosphere in which people might talk to and learn from each other. But of course biased people like you would not even consider that, off with his head, right? Again, would you feel the same way if he wanted a dialog about Wicca? -- Matt Silberstein I want to be different, I just don't want to change. All human being wishing to be "different" please stand in the appropriate line. |
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American Airlines' Preaching Pilot
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:44:01 +0000, BTR1701 wrote:
You could file a lawsuit but you'd have no grounds for it. American Airlines is a private company. They can plaster the inside of their airplane cabins with bible verses if that's what they want to do. Methinks you got mixed up. That's Alaska, not AA. |
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