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Charles Newman wrote:

Nearly every flavor of Unix comes with Windows emulation.

Patently false. HP-UX, Solaris, AIX do not come with Windows emulation
standard. Windows emulation software is available by 3rd parties though.
Similarly Unix emulation is also available for Windows via 3rd parties,
so what's your point?

You can get a Windows emulator for nearly every version of Unix on the
market.

This is not the same as you previous statement. Yes you can often find a
Windows emulator for a Unix OS. Similarly you can find many Unix
emulations for Windows. Big deal.

Additionally things like DNS, SMTP, HTTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, et. al. hail
from and were on Unix long before they were ever on Windows. Without
these things your Windows eXPerience would be sub par at best.

Even if they dont have Windows installed, they are certainly running
Window emulation.

No, they are not.

That is why I say that 99.9 percent of the worlds computers are
running Windows-based software.

You can say whatever you want. Proving it, however, is another matter.

When I was in college a decade ago, we had Unix machines running
DOS/Windows emulation, so that they could run Turbo Pascal, to get a
decent Pascal compiler, as there was no decent Pascal compiler for
Unix available.

There are many decent Pascal compilers for Unix (as the admin for the
compiler lab in HP I can assure you that HP Pascal was indeed a very
decent and capable Pascal compiler) it's just that they are expense.

You've consistently proven you have very little knowledge about what you
speak about.

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L D Jones wrote:

Charles Newman wrote:

"Andrew DeFaria" wrote in message
ervers.com...

Actually you could probably run it under Vmware but that's not the
point.

You don't NEED Power point to do a presentation. I haven't had the
need to
do a ot of presentations but when I had I did not need power point to do
it.

Well, how do you put up charts and graphs, and stuff like that. It
would
seem next to impossible without PowerPoint, and PowerPoint is unique, as
it is the only slide slow presentation software in the world.


And slow is the operative word!

Mea Culpa! :-)
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In article ,
Bill Reid wrote:

Got a PC with a network card? Add routing software, voila,
you got yourself a router.

K3W1!!!! What else would I need to replace this?

cisco WS-C6509 (R7000) processor (revision 3.0) with 458752K/65536K
bytes of memory.
Processor board ID xxxxxxxxxx
SR71000 CPU at 600Mhz, Implementation 0x504, Rev 1.2, 512KB L2 Cache
Last reset from power-on
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Bridging software.
8 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
4 Virtual Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
34 Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
8 Ten Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
1917K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of packet buffer memory.

65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
Configuration register is 0x2102

Oh, yeah, it's got the 720Gbps switching fabric too...

Sam

However, virtually all the software in the world is written for
Windows.
If you want to have the latest software, you need Windows. Every
office
PC
in the world runs Windows, because that is what the all the hottest
business software runs under.

What is "the hottest business software"? I haven't had to touch a
Windows
machine in quite a while now.

Programs like Office XP, Corel Office Suite, and many others. Go into
any computer storre, and it will be 99.9 percent Windows. Windows
is THE standard in compting.

Games, that is.

(OK, I'll admit. I still have some form of Windows on my laptop. Used
only for powerpoint presentations. Although one of these days I'll do my
homework and I'll find that Linux replacement.)

Try openoffice

http://www.openoffice.org

Actually you could probably run it under Vmware but that's not the point.
You don't NEED Power point to do a presentation. I haven't had the need
to
do a ot of presentations but when I had I did not need power point to do
it.

Well, how do you put up charts and graphs, and stuff like that. It
would
seem next to impossible without PowerPoint, and PowerPoint is unique, as
it is the only slide slow presentation software in the world.


How about staroffice and openoffice, both have a presentation package as
good as pp, and it can output pp compatible files. Both run on most flavours
of Unix.

Charles Newman wrote in message ...

And what if someone has to do a presentation?
Sorry, but PowerPoint is Windows-only.

To provide just one rebuttal, I have in front of me a CD.
It is titled Microsoft Office 98 Macintosh Edition.

It provides Word, Excel, Outlook Express and PowerPoint.

Here is a link to the current version
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product...x?pid=standard

It still includes PowerPoint.

Why are you making such unsupportable claims?

"Charles Newman" wrote in
message ...

SNIP
it is the only slide slow presentation software in the world.


in addition to the others already mentioned...

Lotus Freelance

"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...
Charles Newman wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote:
Charles Newman wrote:
Also, if you need content filtering, an ICS box can run
CyberSitter, SurfWatch, CyberPatrol, or any other filtering
software, and all the computers behind it are filtering. Content
filtering is not possible with a hardware router.

Unless you happened to buy one that does content filtering.

Hardware routers dont do that.

Except for the ones that do. From basic URL and/or keyword controls in
consumer devices like the Netgear RP114/RP614 and Linksys BEFSX41, to
Sonicwall's fairly thorough Content Filtering Service (which is an upgrade
to its little hardware boxes) to the myriad options available on serious
hardware, you're just plain wrong.

miguel

Well, I read once that Bess is the only filtering service that plugs
directly
into hardware firewalls. Bess/Sentian, from N2H2, could corner the market
someday. Bess does support SonicWall and Cisco routers and firewalls.
If you want filtering in your hardwware firewall/router, you will have to
buy either Cisco or SonicWall firewalls, and the subscribe to the Bess
or Sentian service

"Charles Newman" barfed
out in message ...
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...
Charles Newman wrote:
Also, if you need content filtering, an ICS box can run
CyberSitter, SurfWatch, CyberPatrol, or any other filtering
software, and all the computers behind it are filtering. Content
filtering is not possible with a hardware router.

Unless you happened to buy one that does content filtering.

Hardware routers dont do that. If you need filtering, you will
HAVE to get a program, such as Websense, SufControl, CyberSitter,
Cyber Patrol, etc, to do this. There are some hardware firewalls/
routers supported by BESS filtering service, but I think they
require a rather exorbitant subscription fee. The only way you can
get a hardware firewall to do content filtering is to buy one
suported by N2H2, the makers of Bess, and then subscribe
to their filtering service.

The 3Com SuperStack III (I hate it and am getting a PIX 515) does
content filtering just fine. I can subscribe to N2H2, If I want,
subscribe to 3Com's service. But here is the real black magic part,
and because it may be hard to believ, I will provide a screenshot of
it on request. I, yes hard to believe, on a HARDWARE router, can creat
my own list of filtered sites.

Quick, someone get the glycerin (sp?) for Mr. Newmam.




miguel
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"Andrew DeFaria" wrote in message ervers.com...
Charles Newman wrote:
You don't NEED Power point to do a presentation. I haven't had the need to
do a ot of presentations but when I had I did not need power point to do
it.

Well, how do you put up charts and graphs, and stuff like that. It would seem next to impossible without PowerPoint, and PowerPoint is unique, as it is the only slide slow presentation software in the world.

Either you lack imagination or you need to get out more. Something tells me it's a little bit of both...

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Why doesn't DOS ever say "EXCELLENT command or filename!"