The "Real" question regarding such passengers

"Avian" wrote in message
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I tried to discuss a real concern, that at least and I and others have
expressed. these are not just some concerns of luxury, but what many
believe
as matters of national and personal security.

instead, most of the responses have been poking fun and ridiculing me for
even thinking this way. if the idea is to simply marginalize people with
my
thoughts and accuse of them of being the very thing they are trying not to
be (paranoid racists), than that's a pretty sad state of affairs.

That's just rich. Sure lots of people feel that same way. That's just
scary but not unexpected. Blaming a group for the actions of a few has been
going on as long as there is human history. Just right in this United
States these "victim groups have included the Irish, Italians, Polish,
Germans, Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Mormons, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese,
etc. etc. You are right about one thing, it's indeed a sad state of
affairs. You need to try a little harder in order not to be a paranoid
racist. You started out way behind and you need to go faster in order to
catch up.

we can be very intolerant in our spirit to promote "tolerance."


Somehow you seem to think you are promoting tolerance? In what warped
universe are you promoting tolerance?

-Avian


"Craig Welch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:52:53 GMT, "Avian"
wrote:

Everyone, whether they openly admit it or not, gets at least slightly
worried if they see a Middle-Eastern looking person on a flight. It's
natural and I don't think there is any racism on that level about it.

What utter nonsense. Your 'everyone' is certainly different to my
'everyone'. Thank goodness.

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Craig

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:04:33 -0700, "Peter L"
wrote:

[...]

That's just rich. Sure lots of people feel that same way. That's just
scary but not unexpected. Blaming a group for the actions of a few has been
going on as long as there is human history. Just right in this United
States these "victim groups have included the Irish, Italians, Polish,
Germans, Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Mormons, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese,
etc. etc.

[...]

Now let me see...which of the above groups have carefully planned
and carried out not one but two terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, as
well as numerous attacks on U.S. installations and forces outside the
country? And are infiltrating our academic institutions, military, and
government, with a specific, clear-cut objective?

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Traveler

wrote:

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:04:33 -0700, "Peter L"
wrote:

[...]


That's just rich. Sure lots of people feel that same way. That's just
scary but not unexpected. Blaming a group for the actions of a few has been
going on as long as there is human history. Just right in this United
States these "victim groups have included the Irish, Italians, Polish,
Germans, Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Mormons, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese,
etc. etc.


[...]

Now let me see...which of the above groups have carefully planned
and carried out not one but two terrorist attacks on U.S. soil,

2?

How many were dress in "arab" clothing?
What percentage were from Iraq?

wrote:

Now let me see...which of the above groups have carefully planned
and carried out not one but two terrorist attacks on U.S. soil,

let me see. This was an Australian airline on a domestic flight from
Perth to Sydney. So, what does this have to do with US anything?

mrtravel wrote:
let me see. This was an Australian airline on a domestic flight from
Perth to Sydney. So, what does this have to do with US anything?

Everyone knows that Howard is trying very hard to convince Bush Jr that
Australia would make a great little obedient puppy if the USA were to adopt
Australia as a state.

You see, with the failure of Australia to wein itself completely from Britain,
Howard has decided to concentrate on attaching itself to the USA to make the
final cut from Britain much easier. Australia will simply put in its
constitution that its governor general will be selected by the USA supreme
court, which has a lot of experience in selecting the head of state.

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:41:32 GMT, wrote:

And are infiltrating our academic institutions, military, and
government, with a specific, clear-cut objective?

Republicans?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. I know you said "and" and not "or.")

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 03:49:19 -0400, Raised eyebrows
wrote:

mrtravel wrote:
let me see. This was an Australian airline on a domestic flight from
Perth to Sydney. So, what does this have to do with US anything?

Everyone knows that Howard is trying very hard to convince Bush Jr that
Australia would make a great little obedient puppy if the USA were to adopt
Australia as a state.

You see, with the failure of Australia to wein

Wean

itself completely from Britain,

I happened to be in OZ at the time of the referendum, and was quite
surprised that it was defeated.

Howard has decided to concentrate on attaching itself to the USA to make the
final cut from Britain much easier.

He is kept in power, as I understand it (correction welcomed) by the
anti-refugee bloc -- Woomera, etc Not so different from Australia's
founding ethos, innit? Supposed to have be even more cruel than the
U.S. **drang nach Westen*, which was pretty horrendous -- but we're
trying to face up to it.

Australia will simply put in its constitution that its governor
general will be selected by the USA supreme
court, which has a lot of experience in selecting the head of state.

(Hangs head in shame.)

Will Oz voters rise up and proclaim independence? Are they so
frightened of other-hued sufferers seeking to share your bounty?
Return of "White Australia"?

I like you guys and hope you will rise up.

--

Traveler