"Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."

"Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2010

"Hate Sells: Why Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."

"The paid circulation... of The Nation nearly doubled from 2001 to
2005, that of Mother Jones rose by 37 percent, and that of Harper’s by
7 percent.... The year 2009 was a tough one for magazines in general,
with circulation down 2.23 percent overall.... The three leading
liberal political magazines, however, fared particularly badly. The
Nation’s circulation in 2009 was down 7.4 percent from 2008, Mother
Jones was down 6.7 percent, and Harper’s was down 5 percent."

I hope relief comes soon!

Your article answered your own question dodo....Major newspapers are
folding up or have closed, because the circulation is down. I glance
at Mother Jones on line almost daily. France gave colleges students
"free" national newspapers for a year, merely to get them hooked into
reading newspapers. I did not work.
Since I got on line or shortly after...I discontinued EVERY
magazine subscription. There is no need to subscribe to any of them,
since I can find whatever I want on line.

GLOBALIST wrote:
Your article answered your own question dodo....Major newspapers are
folding up or have closed, because the circulation is down. I glance
at Mother Jones on line almost daily. France gave colleges students
"free" national newspapers for a year, merely to get them hooked into
reading newspapers. I did not work.
Since I got on line or shortly after...I discontinued EVERY
magazine subscription. There is no need to subscribe to any of them,
since I can find whatever I want on line.


We will all have to start paying for our on line news sooner
but probably later.

From: GLOBALIST
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:15:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: "Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."

Your article answered your own question dodo....Major newspapers are
folding up or have closed, because the circulation is down. I glance
at Mother Jones on line almost daily. France gave colleges students
"free" national newspapers for a year, merely to get them hooked into
reading newspapers. I did not work.
Since I got on line or shortly after...I discontinued EVERY
magazine subscription. There is no need to subscribe to any of them,
since I can find whatever I want on line.


I really don't much enjoy reading on line. I get distracted by the
scrolling down, mesmerized by that process. And it's less easy to read in
bed. Also I find reading on a screen hard on my eyes. That is probably my
principal complaint.

Donna Evleth

On 24/02/10 18:22, in article ,
"John Rennie" wrote:

We will all have to start paying for our on line news sooner
but probably later.

Partly. The majors will offer some news items fully but
most just a couple of teaser lines.

We already subscribe to Truthout, the some paid is decided by
the individual, treated as a contribution.

Our home delivery of the WSJ (5 days a week) is something like $700
a year. We prefer hard copy in hand, I don't do well reading complex
articles on the web. We also buy daily Liberation, le Parisian, the IHT
and Le Monde. With those plus the web I feel that we are among
the top 5% of informed people I the world. But I would not want
these on the web and if only available on the web for money I might
skip it.

The web does have some bad results. We just arranged for our
trip to the USA, you pretty much have to do it by e-mail.
No problem directly but the best flights for a multicity
trip are not really presented. Air France does not offer
on its web site flights on Delta which they share flights
sometimes. Next you don't now when you are being ripped off.
For instance the round trip London NY is less that $500
each on AA, a good value. I had to arrange the NY-Denver
flight separately since we refuse to take connecting flights.

That worked out all right, but AA did not send an e-ticket.
Calling reservations puts you into the hands of a computer
voice system and if that doesn't work the eventually connect
you to a real person. So we got ore e-tickets, but I also
have need of "special services" to get permission to
bring a special oxygen unit aboard. I still don't know if
my request was honored. So I will have to call again, perhaps
several times.

So the use of the computer and web sites it great for simple
things, a bit of complication and nothing works. Over a year
ago I accepted a special contract for out gas and electricity.
What happened, the service was maintained by they did not bill us!
Trying to make them bill us so we could pay never worked,
I made a half dozen contacts. Finally they saw they were not
getting paid and hit us with a huge bill!

John Rennie wrote:

GLOBALIST wrote:
Your article answered your own question dodo....Major newspapers are
folding up or have closed, because the circulation is down. I glance
at Mother Jones on line almost daily. France gave colleges students
"free" national newspapers for a year, merely to get them hooked into
reading newspapers. I did not work.
Since I got on line or shortly after...I discontinued EVERY
magazine subscription. There is no need to subscribe to any of them,
since I can find whatever I want on line.


We will all have to start paying for our on line news sooner
but probably later.

There may be no workable model without massive pain first. For some
reason, I'm not sure what it is, most people don't run adblock plus
and noscript to avoid internet ads. If they mostly all did, then
the google model of trying to sell you something in exchange for a
search request would fail. Maybe it should fail.




--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

Earl Evleth wrote:

On 24/02/10 18:22, in article ,
"John Rennie" wrote:

We will all have to start paying for our on line news sooner
but probably later.

Partly. The majors will offer some news items fully but
most just a couple of teaser lines.

Which will mean that they'll be ignored as people shift to free. A
pay model on the internet has failed for news.




We already subscribe to Truthout, the some paid is decided by
the individual, treated as a contribution.

Our home delivery of the WSJ (5 days a week) is something like $700
a year. We prefer hard copy in hand, I don't do well reading complex
articles on the web.

Most people aren't going to pay $700 a year for a newspaper. And
even if they did, it's not likely to be more than one. The promise
online was access to *all* or mostly all content.



We also buy daily Liberation, le Parisian, the IHT
and Le Monde. With those plus the web I feel that we are among
the top 5% of informed people I the world. But I would not want
these on the web and if only available on the web for money I might
skip it.

The proper use of automatic filters can reduce the overload and
allow quick access to information. This means you could still be
informed. Although I'm not sure that these various publications
would be happy if you didn't have to pay them.


So the use of the computer and web sites it great for simple
things, a bit of complication and nothing works.

I tend to agree and I don't tend to trust ordering things online
from a website. This is especially true if it is time sensitive.


Over a year
ago I accepted a special contract for out gas and electricity.
What happened, the service was maintained by they did not bill us!
Trying to make them bill us so we could pay never worked,
I made a half dozen contacts. Finally they saw they were not
getting paid and hit us with a huge bill!

Late fees?



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

Donna Evleth wrote:

From: GLOBALIST
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups:
alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.e urope,soc
.retirement
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:15:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: "Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."

Your article answered your own question dodo....Major newspapers are
folding up or have closed, because the circulation is down. I glance
at Mother Jones on line almost daily. France gave colleges students
"free" national newspapers for a year, merely to get them hooked into
reading newspapers. I did not work.
Since I got on line or shortly after...I discontinued EVERY
magazine subscription. There is no need to subscribe to any of them,
since I can find whatever I want on line.


I really don't much enjoy reading on line. I get distracted by the
scrolling down, mesmerized by that process. And it's less easy to read in
bed. Also I find reading on a screen hard on my eyes. That is probably my
principal complaint.

I remember non backlit black and white LCDs. I think a lot of the
problem with CRTs and to a lesser extent with backlit LCDs is that
you've basically got a light source shooting right at your eyes.
With paper or non backlit screens, it is entirely reflected.



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote:

On Feb 24, 1:11 pm, Earl Evleth stupidly wrote
some garbage about being "victimized" by airlines over his need for
oxygen on their flight out of Paris, the content of which has been
snipped :

Of course the Evleths as the quintessential Leftists they are perceive
themselves as "victims" of whatever and will always perceive that
imagined "victimization" exists on them andf others which really does
not exist at all.

.

Easily searchable excerpts:

"Flying With Oxygen

"In the aftermath of September 11th, the U.S. Department of
Transportation (DOT), in conjunction with the National Council on
Disability (NCD), issued a Fact Sheet to encourage the large airlines
and aviation associations to preserve and respect the civil rights of
people with disabilities.while they take steps the ensure new security
requirements....

....Ticketed passengers with their own oxygen for use on the ground
are allowed beyond the screener checkpoints with their oxygen
canisters once the canisters have been thoroughly inspected....."

I wouldn't allow it. I would require that the airlines provide
oxygen for people who needed it. What we are doing is counting on
the fact that someone who appears to need oxygen doesn't have some
nefarious nonsense in mind. All it would take to build a very
effective bomb is to put it inside the oxygen container and then
fill the container with oxygen as expected.




--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

On Feb 24, 1:11*pm, Earl Evleth stupidly wrote
some garbage about being "victimized" by airlines over his need for
oxygen on their flight out of Paris, the content of which has been
snipped :


Of course the Evleths as the quintessential Leftists they are perceive
themselves as "victims" of whatever and will always perceive that
imagined "victimization" exists on them andf others which really does
not exist at all.

..

Easily searchable excerpts:

"Flying With Oxygen

"In the aftermath of September 11th, the U.S. Department of
Transportation (DOT), in conjunction with the National Council on
Disability (NCD), issued a Fact Sheet to encourage the large airlines
and aviation associations to preserve and respect the civil rights of
people with disabilities.while they take steps the ensure new security
requirements....

.....Ticketed passengers with their own oxygen for use on the ground
are allowed beyond the screener checkpoints with their oxygen
canisters once the canisters have been thoroughly inspected....."

Of course though maybe zee Fwench don't see it that way on flights
originating fwom Fwance.