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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
"unfrostedpoptart" wrote in message ... On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:13:20 PM UTC-7, Go Fig wrote: Convinced that the stores on their easy-to-follow map will lead them to the greatest onshore deals, the eager tourists are unaware that the cruise line's recommendations are driven solely by profit. They are unaware that the maps are leading them to stores whose revenue goes straight back to the ship. Before cruise passengers go onshore to one of their ship's destinations, they are given shopping lectures and store maps with the industry's recommendations for the best deals and the highest quality products. But what the passengers aren't told is that these stores have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual fees to be listed. What a crock! First of all, all the people going to these lectures on the cruise to find the best places to shop and taking cruises to find amazing deals from "poor countries" are fools to start with. And, if they don't know that the person giving the lecture and handing out the maps isn't sending them to a store they're in business with, they have the IQs of turnips and deserve everything they get. David We went to a store in St. Thomas looking for a specific Movado watch that my wife saw online and wanted to buy. Of course, the shopping guide told us to go to Diamonds International for the best price. We always shop around and wound up purchasing the watch for 15% less at Little Switzerland. We saw the shopping guide downtown in St. Thomas and mentioned it to him. He said that was not possible. We pulled out the receipt and walked into DI with him to prove it. Funny part is Little Switzerland was also on the shoppers list that he handed out. Cannot figure out why he was angry we found a better bargain. On our last cruise we felt the shopper was the worst we have had in years. She didn't even know that 90% of the stores in Aruba were closed due to a national holiday. She told us they would ALL be open until at least noon. When we went to the Belgian Chocolate store in St. Thomas we asked the owner of the store why her store was no longer listed in the ship's shopping guide and the one in St. Maartin (which was far inferior and recommended by the shopper) was. The owner said she was supposed to be in the guide since she was paying for the mention. I gave her the guide and she said she was going to look into it. We have stopped going to the shopping presentation because we have now cruised enough times to shop on our own. There is unfortunately, more misinformation given out at these things than good information. |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
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wrote: "unfrostedpoptart" wrote in message ... On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:13:20 PM UTC-7, Go Fig wrote: Convinced that the stores on their easy-to-follow map will lead them to the greatest onshore deals, the eager tourists are unaware that the cruise line's recommendations are driven solely by profit. They are unaware that the maps are leading them to stores whose revenue goes straight back to the ship. Before cruise passengers go onshore to one of their ship's destinations, they are given shopping lectures and store maps with the industry's recommendations for the best deals and the highest quality products. But what the passengers aren't told is that these stores have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual fees to be listed. What a crock! First of all, all the people going to these lectures on the cruise to find the best places to shop and taking cruises to find amazing deals from "poor countries" are fools to start with. And, if they don't know that the person giving the lecture and handing out the maps isn't sending them to a store they're in business with, they have the IQs of turnips and deserve everything they get. I'll be impressed with this argument when people start getting upset about newspaper advertising supplements or, even more on point, radio personalities showing up at car dealers, etc. Why are cruise ships the only ones who can't take advertising? Funny part is Little Switzerland was also on the shoppers list that he handed out. Cannot figure out why he was angry we found a better bargain. Maybe at Little Switzerland for bushwhacking him like that??? -- People thought cybersex was a safe alternative, until patients started presenting with sexually acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
On 5/25/2012 8:54 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
I'll be impressed with this argument when people start getting upset about newspaper advertising supplements or, even more on point, radio personalities showing up at car dealers, etc. Why are cruise ships the only ones who can't take advertising? They're not presented as advertising. When you get an advertising supplement in your newspaper, it specifically says that it is advertising and may even say that on each page. Where does it say that on the maps that the cruise lines hand out? Where is the disclaimer at the start of the shopping talks? Bill |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
On 5/25/2012 4:39 PM, Bill wrote:
On 5/25/2012 8:54 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote: I'll be impressed with this argument when people start getting upset about newspaper advertising supplements or, even more on point, radio personalities showing up at car dealers, etc. Why are cruise ships the only ones who can't take advertising? They're not presented as advertising. When you get an advertising supplement in your newspaper, it specifically says that it is advertising and may even say that on each page. Where does it say that on the maps that the cruise lines hand out? Where is the disclaimer at the start of the shopping talks? Bill None. Bill is correct. The cruise ship "shopping experts" treat their information as though it's been researched and proven and never do they *EVER* tell the pax that they are shilling for shops that pay them for the recommendation. Ever look at the lighting in one of those Diamonds International shops? It's specially made to make their gems appear clearer and brighter than they really are. Never buy anything from one of those port stores without taking it outside and looking at in natural light. Don't believe me? I have a bargain diamond tennis bracelet that was gorgeous in the store and looks like gray dirt in every other light. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
Janet Wilder wrote:
On 5/25/2012 4:39 PM, Bill wrote: On 5/25/2012 8:54 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote: I'll be impressed with this argument when people start getting upset about newspaper advertising supplements or, even more on point, radio personalities showing up at car dealers, etc. Why are cruise ships the only ones who can't take advertising? They're not presented as advertising. When you get an advertising supplement in your newspaper, it specifically says that it is advertising and may even say that on each page. Where does it say that on the maps that the cruise lines hand out? Where is the disclaimer at the start of the shopping talks? Bill None. Bill is correct. The cruise ship "shopping experts" treat their information as though it's been researched and proven and never do they *EVER* tell the pax that they are shilling for shops that pay them for the recommendation. Ever look at the lighting in one of those Diamonds International shops? It's specially made to make their gems appear clearer and brighter than they really are. Never buy anything from one of those port stores without taking it outside and looking at in natural light. Don't believe me? I have a bargain diamond tennis bracelet that was gorgeous in the store and looks like gray dirt in every other light. I agree with you and Bill about the cruise ship '"shopping experts" and their role. As for the lighting at Diamond International, jewelry shops anywhere will have that lighting that is made for jewelry stores to make the gems look good and entice you to buy. It is not just at Diamonds International. -- Charles |
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On May 26, 6:59*am, Charles wrote:
I agree with you and Bill about the cruise ship '"shopping experts" and their role. Charles It has been almost six years since I last posted here although I have always lurked. Back in 1967 my wife and I took the first of 4 Italian Line cruises. We were in St. Thomas shopping when we noticed one of the ship's officers was also there. We were shocked when we heard him ask the clerk for "his envelope", but that day we learned the hard facts about the endorsements that are given during the "informational chats" that precede every port of call. Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
"You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can fool some of
the people all of the time. You can't fool all of the people all of the time." "A fool and his money are soon parted." ~~Doris~~ |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
Good to see you back Dick!
~Doris~In Spring Hill FL |
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Cruise Ships Financially Exploit Onshore Stores
Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ wrote:
On May 26, 6:59 am, Charles wrote: I agree with you and Bill about the cruise ship '"shopping experts" and their role. Charles It has been almost six years since I last posted here although I have always lurked. Back in 1967 my wife and I took the first of 4 Italian Line cruises. We were in St. Thomas shopping when we noticed one of the ship's officers was also there. We were shocked when we heard him ask the clerk for "his envelope", but that day we learned the hard facts about the endorsements that are given during the "informational chats" that precede every port of call. Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ I remember you, Dick. I still peek in here occasionally. Ermalee |
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On May 28, 10:28*pm, Ermalee McCauley wrote:
Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ wrote: I remember you, Dick. *I still peek in here occasionally. Ermalee Ermalee and Doris, I am aware that because there was a lot of fake posting that went on here many of the "regulars" here have gone to a better place. I emailed Jean using the address that she used when I was a part of her mailing list but she never responded. Since I am no longer cruising it wasn't important, but since there is not a lot of news here, and much of it is not trustworthy, if you know what I mean, I would like to join in even if only as a reader. You never know if there just might be something I learned over 35 years of cruising that I could pass along. Dick |
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