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Sicily travelogue
Here is a detailed travelogue of our recent trip to Sicily:
http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Italy/2012-13/ Two weeks spent looping around the island, covering some of the major highlights -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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European Resturant Food prices (was Sicily travelogue)
"Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... Here is a detailed travelogue of our recent trip to Sicily: http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Italy/2012-13/ Two weeks spent looping around the island, covering some of the major highlights First off - great report Alfred, but then we get to the bit that I disagree with I didn't notice those restaurant food prices as out of line with other Western European locations from my recent trips. For those that haven't looks at Alfred's report his sample prices a Pasta Starter: 7-10 Euro Main Course: meat 10-20 plus vegetable at 3 E per portion plus coperto at 2 E plus unspecified amounts for salads and deserts making a total of 25E pp 100 E per family, twice! a day. Well firstly, after you have had breakfast in the hotel (which the report says that he did) does anybody really have a three course meal for both lunch and dinner. I certainly don't. Lunch will just be the pasta (or a sandwich). And are those prices really higher than elsewhere in W Europe for full meals? On my most recent trip to France/Spain I was presented with menus in France at: Starter 10-15 E Main Course 15-25E (vegetables included!) Dessert 8-12E. And I looked around and found that these was normal and difficult to beat in a "sit down" restaurant. And yes, I did think that it was more expensive than I had expected and wondered at the time what had happened to the idea that eating out in France was cheap! But is it really expensive for what it is? In Spain/Portugal prices were cheaper, but you still didn't see much change from 25E pp for a three course meal. There were cheap snack bar type places where you could spend less, and a valid criticism of Sicily might be that these don't exist (I' can't remember it was too long ago). But I don't think that, as restaurants, these prices are out of line with elsewhere. What experiences do other have? Tim |
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European Resturant Food prices
tim..... wrote:
"Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... Here is a detailed travelogue of our recent trip to Sicily: http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Italy/2012-13/ Two weeks spent looping around the island, covering some of the major highlights First off - great report Alfred, but then we get to the bit that I disagree with I didn't notice those restaurant food prices as out of line with other Western European locations from my recent trips. [] What experiences do other have? Similar to yours, although 'menu' deals can often present good value if you want to eat several courses. I've had some exquisite meals on menu deals in parts of Spain, for example. David -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009) |
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European Resturant Food prices
"David Horne" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... Here is a detailed travelogue of our recent trip to Sicily: http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Italy/2012-13/ Two weeks spent looping around the island, covering some of the major highlights First off - great report Alfred, but then we get to the bit that I disagree with I didn't notice those restaurant food prices as out of line with other Western European locations from my recent trips. [] What experiences do other have? Similar to yours, although 'menu' deals can often present good value if you want to eat several courses. I've had some exquisite meals on menu deals in parts of Spain, for example. In France the tourist "menu de Jour" was only available at lunchtime In Spain/Portugal it looked like it was meant to be only available at lunchtime but that the general economic situation has forced restaurants to offer it all day tim |
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European Resturant Food prices
tim..... wrote:
"David Horne" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... Here is a detailed travelogue of our recent trip to Sicily: http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Italy/2012-13/ Two weeks spent looping around the island, covering some of the major highlights First off - great report Alfred, but then we get to the bit that I disagree with I didn't notice those restaurant food prices as out of line with other Western European locations from my recent trips. [] What experiences do other have? Similar to yours, although 'menu' deals can often present good value if you want to eat several courses. I've had some exquisite meals on menu deals in parts of Spain, for example. In France the tourist "menu de Jour" was only available at lunchtime In Spain/Portugal it looked like it was meant to be only available at lunchtime but that the general economic situation has forced restaurants to offer it all day Hm. Definitely had menus/formules in French restaurants in the evenings, maybe rarer but not uncommon, particularly in tourist areas. David -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009) |
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European Resturant Food prices
Am Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:24:55 -0000 schrieb tim.....:
In France the tourist "menu de Jour" was only available at lunchtime Thats strange. When we went around Bourgogne, it was available in the evenig at every restaurant we tried. It was in summer, so the high season, and most tourists (lots of them French) rather have a 4 course menu in the evening than for lunch. Regards, Frank |
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European Resturant Food prices
"Frank Hucklenbroich" wrote in message .. . Am Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:24:55 -0000 schrieb tim.....: In France the tourist "menu de Jour" was only available at lunchtime Thats strange. I just assumed that it was because they wanted to charge full price in the evening When we went around Bourgogne, it was available in the evenig at every restaurant we tried. It was in summer, so the high season, and most tourists (lots of them French) rather have a 4 course menu in the evening than for lunch. Yep, so why discount it when it is most popular? tim |
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European Resturant Food prices (was Sicily travelogue)
Am Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:09:55 -0000 schrieb tim.....:
First off - great report Alfred, but then we get to the bit that I disagree with I didn't notice those restaurant food prices as out of line with other Western European locations from my recent trips. For those that haven't looks at Alfred's report his sample prices a Pasta Starter: 7-10 Euro Main Course: meat 10-20 plus vegetable at 3 E per portion plus coperto at 2 E plus unspecified amounts for salads and deserts making a total of 25E pp 100 E per family, twice! a day. Seems like what you would pay in a city in Germany. Then again, even in a country like Germany prices can vary regionally. I live in Cologne, and restaurants here are rather expensive. When I once went to Kiel (northern coastal town), I was surprisend that food in Restaurants was about 25% cheaper than in Cologne. And are those prices really higher than elsewhere in W Europe for full meals? On my most recent trip to France/Spain I was presented with menus in France at: Starter 10-15 E Main Course 15-25E (vegetables included!) Dessert 8-12E. It really depends. In Paris you will pay about what you quote (or more). In the countryside you can have great food for much less. I once went with a house-boat down the River Saone. There the typical "menu du jour" was about 35 EUR, but that included starters (often seafood), main meal (good stuff such as duck or steak), dessert and cheese. Add the wine to it, which was quite cheap compared to other countries. In Spain/Portugal prices were cheaper, but you still didn't see much change from 25E pp for a three course meal. Also in Spain it greatly depends on where you go. I was on Lanzarote last October and found food there very cheap. Main dishes around 8-10 EUR, for 12 EUR you would get s steak you could hardly eat. Fresh fish around the same, between 10 and 12 EUR, normally including a salad. What experiences do other have? On Italy: It's a very mixed bag. In Pisa and Genua I found food ridicolously cheap, as long as you stay away from the main tourist attractions. So for Pisa, stay away from the leaning tower and go to one of the many little restaurants near the University. In Genua, anywhere near the harbour will do. In both places, we paid about 25 - 30 EUR for a meal for 3 persons, including 3 Pizza, half a liter of wine and one or two soft drinks. So about 10 EUR per person, including wine. On the other hand in Rome I paid about 25 EUR for one tiny slice(!) of Pizza Margarita and a small beer. Venice should be even worse. A collegue of mine, who is Italian himself, once went to Venice and make the mistake of going in one of the "tourist"-restaurants. They charged him 25 EUR for two cappuchino and a glass of water. Yes, that is rip-off. Regards, Frank |
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European Resturant Food prices (was Sicily travelogue)
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Hucklenbroich says... Seems like what you would pay in a city in Germany. Then again, even in a country like Germany prices can vary regionally. I live in Cologne, and restaurants here are rather expensive. When I once went to Kiel (northern coastal town), I was surprisend that food in Restaurants was about 25% cheaper than in Cologne. To make an example, here in Munich you can go to the PEP (Perlacher Einkaufszentrum) and eat for 4-7 Euro. You will get a dish with rice or noodles with meat and vegetables. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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European Resturant Food prices
Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Frank Hucklenbroich says... Seems like what you would pay in a city in Germany. Then again, even in a country like Germany prices can vary regionally. I live in Cologne, and restaurants here are rather expensive. When I once went to Kiel (northern coastal town), I was surprisend that food in Restaurants was about 25% cheaper than in Cologne. To make an example, here in Munich you can go to the PEP (Perlacher Einkaufszentrum) and eat for 4-7 Euro. You will get a dish with rice or noodles with meat and vegetables. That's a shopping mall. You will get similar prices in malls in the UK and US, but 'proper' restaurants are generally more expensive, as they are in Germany too. David -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009) |
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