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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
Holden McGroyne wrote:
I am not the fan of a country which has developed an arrogance which believes that tourists are theirs to be fleeced and mistreated. I take it you refuse to visit a country which charges _you_ for a tourist visa then? (Regardless of reciprocity.) There are lots of countries I wouldn't have visited, if I had your view. David -- David Horne- www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
In article 1gbya8s.146icop2z6q6rN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk,
David Horne wrote: For the past few years, I've been traveling to France on business 2-3 times per year, not counting an occasional vacation, and I am happy to report that the food situation seems to be improving. I had most excellent North African food in Marseille, and even started seeing some halfway decent Asian eateries in Paris, but the provinces are as dismal as ever - gloppy sauces on everything, overpriced plonk and all the landscape variety of Central Russia. Yet you deign to find time in your jet-set schedule to fit in the "occasional vacation." FAScinating. Eh? What jet-set schedule? Are you confusing me with someone? Jet-set schedule is one thing that I don't have and don't need. |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
Vitaly Shmatikov wrote:
In article 1gbya8s.146icop2z6q6rN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk, David Horne wrote: For the past few years, I've been traveling to France on business 2-3 times per year, not counting an occasional vacation, and I am happy to report that the food situation seems to be improving. I had most excellent North African food in Marseille, and even started seeing some halfway decent Asian eateries in Paris, but the provinces are as dismal as ever - gloppy sauces on everything, overpriced plonk and all the landscape variety of Central Russia. Yet you deign to find time in your jet-set schedule to fit in the "occasional vacation." FAScinating. Eh? What jet-set schedule? Are you confusing me with someone? Whoosh! Jet-set schedule is one thing that I don't have and don't need. Vitally, meet Irony. Irony, meet the well-travelled Vitaly. David -- David Horne- www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
In article 1gbybmi.8hbs3b1y1sy6cN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk,
David Horne wrote: Vitally, meet Irony. Irony, meet the well-travelled Vitaly. Dearest, you're gonna have to dig deeper than this. I don't travel much these days. And, in case you were wondering, these were skiing vacations, nothing to do with food, wine, countryside or foreign policy of the French government. Frankly, if not for Victor-Emmanuel II who gave a goodish chunk of the Alps back to France, I doubt I'd ever entertain the idea of vacationing in France. |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:15:14 -0700, Holden McGroyne wrote:
I am not the fan of a country which lives by only two rules. One set for themselves, and another for everyone else. Hmmm. Pot, kettle...? |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:06:02 +0000, Vitaly Shmatikov wrote:
In article , Simon Gardner [dot]co[dot]uk wrote: France? Donner moi une break. It might be worth a visit, but I would not rate it quite as highly. More like a 7 or an 8. Aah. So not a fan of good food, a good climate, good wine, the right way to live, lovely countryside and their Government being right about the Iraq war, eh? Too bad none of this applies to France. Well, I suppose French countryside has a couple of nice spots here and there, but you are surely joking about the rest. What will it take to convince you that they were right on the Iraq lunacy? (And while they are indeed losing ground, they still have good wine.) |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
Vitaly Shmatikov wrote:
In article 1gbybmi.8hbs3b1y1sy6cN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk, David Horne wrote: Vitally, meet Irony. Irony, meet the well-travelled Vitaly. Dearest, you're gonna have to dig deeper than this. Be careful, or I'll get delve down to skin deep. I don't travel much these days. And, in case you were wondering, these were skiing vacations, nothing to do with food, wine, countryside or foreign policy of the French government. Who knew, given the eloquence of your pronunciations on them? Frankly, if not for Victor-Emmanuel II who gave a goodish chunk of the Alps back to France, I doubt I'd ever entertain the idea of vacationing in France. And yet you've been there on vacation- not just once, but on _occasion_. There's good skiing in lots of places. I just find it amusing that you've been (one presumes at least twice!) to a country that you seem to dislike. Life's too short for that. There's not a single place I've vacationed in that I'd have that attitude about, and if I _did_, I certainly wouldn't go there for "an occasional vacation." Still, to inject some balance, I'm finding the current spate of "I'm not going to the US while etc." posts a little tiresome too. David -- David Horne- www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk |
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In article ,
devil wrote: Too bad none of this applies to France. Well, I suppose French countryside has a couple of nice spots here and there, but you are surely joking about the rest. What will it take to convince you that they were right on the Iraq lunacy? What will it take to convince you that Shrub & Co did a Good Thing (TM) in ridding Iraq of Saddam? Not to mention that the French government is a particularly bad choice of a posterboy for sensible Iraq policy, considering that they tried their darnedest to keep Saddam in power not of out any noble sentiment, but purely out of anti-American spite and the desire to keep their quasi-state oil companies profitably engaged in the Iraqi oil scam. (And while they are indeed losing ground, they still have good wine.) At the top end, undoubtedly. But for those of us who can't afford to drink top-notch Burgundy every night, middle-of-the-road French wines are simply not competitive, dollar for dollar, with the stuff that comes out of places like Chile, South Africa and California these days. If you know of any good French wine under $30 (preferably something that would be available in the US), please share the wisdom, I promise I'll give it a try. |
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In article 1gbyd4i.1nbvyno49jn07N%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk,
David Horne wrote: Frankly, if not for Victor-Emmanuel II who gave a goodish chunk of the Alps back to France, I doubt I'd ever entertain the idea of vacationing in France. And yet you've been there on vacation- not just once, but on _occasion_. There's good skiing in lots of places. I just find it amusing that you've been (one presumes at least twice!) to a country that you seem to dislike. Life's too short for that. Life is never too short for good skiing Sure, I don't care much for French food, French government, or the whole French way of living, yet France has some of the world's best skiing, and it so happens that I have a ton of friends in France, so yeah, I go for a week or two of skiing there every couple of years or so. If you find this ironic, you have a strange sense of irony. Do you think that people go skiing in Utah because they approve of the Mormon Church, are excited about Utan cuisine and are big fans of watery-by-law Utah beer? |
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What is the best country to visit in Europe?
AJC wrote:
Oh,you can keep your *** restaurants. Eating out in France is often at its best in unprepossesing restaurants in the most unlikely places. On recent visits (or is that 'occasional' visits?) I've actually been quite impressed with some of the 'French' restaurants run by immigrants- Algerians, Morrocans etc. I say this only because in the 80s and even most of the 90s, they seemed to me to be a cheap alternative, but weren't very good. (For residents, preferably those of you used to mid-lower priced establishments, does this ring true, or is it just the opinion of a visitor?) This is purely unscientific, mind you- just my impression. I think another problem is that most of my visits in the 90s to France were with a US pricing perspective. Now I live in the UK, everything in France seems like excellent value! David -- David Horne- www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk |
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