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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:24:24 -0600, "Jim Davis"
wrote: "Uncle Dave" wrote in message ... On Nov 27, 11:24 am, Miles Vaches wrote: snip ad You missed one - WTF. As in "WTF has this got to do with rugby?" Oh, and you failed to include "spam". Actually, WTF does this have to do with *any* of these groups? And he left out two groups that would have been appropriate: alt.usage.english and alt.english.usage. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
On 28 Nov, 17:10, Hatunen wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:41:52 +0100, Giovanni Drogo wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Miles Vaches wrote: Regatta, from Venetian dialect, it originally signified any kind of contest. I may just repeat what I said a while ago (april 2008) in another thread on r.t.e. As a native speaker of Italian, a language where double consonants are significant, I'm always puzzled by the fact in English you write "regatta" with 2 t's, while in Italian we write "regata" with one t. The answer is quite simple: "regatta" is an English word, "regata" an Italian word. I'm not trying to be flip; ths is a very important language concept that some have a hard time accepting. -- * ************** DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * ** * * * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * * * * * ** My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * what is it in Finnish ? |
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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
perhaps you bedouin stop crossposting this filth to rte "Hatunen" kirjoitti om... On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:41:52 +0100, Giovanni Drogo wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Miles Vaches wrote: Regatta, from Venetian dialect, it originally signified any kind of contest. I may just repeat what I said a while ago (april 2008) in another thread on r.t.e. As a native speaker of Italian, a language where double consonants are significant, I'm always puzzled by the fact in English you write "regatta" with 2 t's, while in Italian we write "regata" with one t. The answer is quite simple: "regatta" is an English word, "regata" an Italian word. I'm not trying to be flip; ths is a very important language concept that some have a hard time accepting. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Hatunen wrote:
consonants are significant, I'm always puzzled by the fact in English you write "regatta" with 2 t's, while in Italian we write "regata" with one t. The answer is quite simple: "regatta" is an English word, "regata" an Italian word. As "film", "pullover", "box", "murales" and "peones" are all italian words ? :-) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- is a newsreading account used by more persons to avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected. Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so. |
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"Runge" Has An Itchy Arse...[WAS: A-Z of English words with surprising origins
Runge13 wrote: michaelnewpoort has spoken. Perhaps "Runge" needs a big dose of flea powder... -- Best Greg " I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that we are some kind of comedy team turns my stomach." - "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking "Miles Vaches" a écrit dans le message de ... On 27 Nov, 17:41, didgerman wrote: Miles Vaches wrote: On 27 Nov, 14:04, "Road_Hog" wrote: "Miles Vaches" spammed the . ... Snipped a load of spam. So Bill Tong, which you are because you use the same email address any particular reason you are spamming this group under another sock puppet alias? yes, its called 'culture'....... ;-) Culture is a word derived from the Greek 'culture', meaning: to have an itchy arse. ..... 2 things Road_Hog has learnt today..... |
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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
On 28 Nov, 17:20, Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Hatunen wrote: consonants are significant, I'm always puzzled by the fact in English you write "regatta" with 2 t's, while in Italian we write "regata" with one t. The answer is quite simple: "regatta" is an English word, "regata" an Italian word. As "film", "pullover", "box", "murales" and "peones" are all italian words ? :-) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- is a newsreading account used by more persons to avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected. Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so. No. We Anglicise our borrowings and they stop being borrowings. |
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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
Etymology is a difficult art .. IMHO There was no such thing as Hotchpotch in Norman Law, which was still part of the curriculum in the school of Law in CAEN in the fifties. Attended by a handful of Guernsey and Jersey future lawyers. There is a HOCHEPOT, Flemish stew, still served in Flanders, Belgium and Northern France. I thought is came forom "huspot" (housepot) but it seems to be "Huts pot". "Hutsen" mean "to shake", like the French "Hocher". Mandarin is not a Chinese word, granted (Guan or Quan) I do not see how it would come from Sweden . When did Swedish navigators reach South East Asia. ? I would be inclined to think it comes from Portuguese. Mandare, from a latin verb, means "to order", "to give orders", which is what a "Quan" was doing. . Yogourt : is it Turkish or Bulgarian ? Bulgaria was part of Turkey, they are both part of Europe now, so it does not make much difference. |
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Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Ariadne wrote: Spelling in English is not so regular. We spell "sonata" But "sonata" is a perfectly legitimate italian word ! There are many cases of italian words which alternate "uo" and "o" (open o !), with the "o" form being preferred in Tuscan or central-italian vernaculars. Yes, nowadays almost nobody will use the verb "sonare" and everybody will prefer "suonare" (to sound), with participle "suonato", and the substantive "suono" (sound). But Tuscans may use it, and the term could be found in literature until 40 or 50 years ago. But the musical term "sonata" was "frozen" as such a lot of time ago, and is the only proper form. Why is "crocodile" rendered in Italian as "cocodril"? |
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A-Z of English words with surprising origins
Dick Adams wrote:
Ariadne wrote: Part of what makes English such a beautiful language. As beautiful as English is, what makes it most amazing is that every English speaking nation has a different dialect and some have many dialects. Once on a train to London, I was in a conversation with two men from the far north of Scotland, a Cockney, an Irishman, and an Englishman from Newcastle. *I kept turning to the Englishman and asking "What did he say?" It's several nations separated by a common language. Dick I'm very pleased that "Estuary" hasn't taken over. But dialect words are certainly being lost. |
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