We Know The Future.....

American, European, and other cities will be car-free. San Francisco,
Portland, and Seattle are already headed in that direction. As is
Vancouver. The reason: the melting of Arctic ice and the link between
pollution and death.

Of course significant melting of arctic ice would make many cities
people free which would then get car free.

As to the pollution. The volumes of horse **** would generate
significant methane problems. There goes the greenhouse effect.

Good going!!!

Joey Jolley wrote:

American, European, and other cities will be car-free. San Francisco,
Portland, and Seattle are already headed in that direction. As is
Vancouver. The reason: the melting of Arctic ice and the link between
pollution and death.

Joey Jolley wrote:

American, European, and other cities will be car-free. San Francisco,
Portland, and Seattle are already headed in that direction. As is
Vancouver. The reason: the melting of Arctic ice and the link between
pollution and death.

Sjeez, all this time and you still haven't had your medication adjusted?

Get a new line you dumb troll!


--
Groeten/Regards
Jeroen Wijnands
jeroen at wijnands punt xs4all punt nl

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"Frank F. Matthews" wrote:

Of course significant melting of arctic ice would make many cities
people free which would then get car free.



Actually, the melting of the Arctic pack ice would not affect sea levels
at all, as it is part of the sea and is incorporated in sea levels
already




As to the pollution. The volumes of horse **** would generate
significant methane problems. There goes the greenhouse effect.


JJ is contributing to those levels now!



American, European, and other cities will be car-free. San Francisco,
Portland, and Seattle are already headed in that direction. As is
Vancouver. The reason: the melting of Arctic ice and the link between
pollution and death.

Joey Jolley wrote:

American, European, and other cities will be car-free. San Francisco,
Portland, and Seattle are already headed in that direction. As is
Vancouver.

Oh shut up, you idiot. Get a life. Rent a clue. Seattle isn't
headed in "that direction," nor are any other cities.

The reason: the melting of Arctic ice and the link between
pollution and death.

Right. San Francisco and Seattle will just become like Venice
or Amsterdam instead.

"Joey," you're an idiot, plain and simple. A boring troll, too.
--
dgs

Joey Jolley wrote:

American, European, and other cities will be car-free. San Francisco,
Portland, and Seattle are already headed in that direction. As is
Vancouver.

Oh shut up, you idiot. Get a life. Rent a clue. Seattle isn't
headed in "that direction," nor are any other cities.

The reason: the melting of Arctic ice and the link between
pollution and death.

Right. San Francisco and Seattle will just become like Venice
or Amsterdam instead.

"Joey," you're an idiot, plain and simple. A boring troll, too.
--
dgs

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Actually, the melting of the Arctic pack ice would not affect sea levels
at all, as it is part of the sea and is incorporated in sea levels
already

Oh? Another science genius? Just for the sake of discussion do the following
simple experiment: put some known volume of water (measured to the closest
cubic cm) and put it into a graduated cylinder with an ice cube. Naturally
the total volume will be higher. But note that volume and finally note the
volume when the ice has melted. It will be greater (and higher? than the
combined shown volume of the water with the cube floating in the water.

Wonder why the final volume (and height) of the water will be higher than the
volume of the water with the ice cube floating in it?

Ken Pisichko wrote:


Orval Fairbairn wrote:


Actually, the melting of the Arctic pack ice would not affect sea levels
at all, as it is part of the sea and is incorporated in sea levels
already


Oh? Another science genius? Just for the sake of discussion do the following
simple experiment: put some known volume of water (measured to the closest
cubic cm) and put it into a graduated cylinder with an ice cube. Naturally
the total volume will be higher. But note that volume and finally note the
volume when the ice has melted. It will be greater (and higher? than the
combined shown volume of the water with the cube floating in the water.

It will be the same.


Wonder why the final volume (and height) of the water will be higher than the
volume of the water with the ice cube floating in it?

It would be truly miraculous, if this were the case. It can only
happen if the temperature of the water changes, and since the water that
carries the ice is close to freezing anyway, no big change is expected.

"Elko Tchernev" wrote in message
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Ken Pisichko wrote:


Orval Fairbairn wrote:


Actually, the melting of the Arctic pack ice would not affect sea levels
at all, as it is part of the sea and is incorporated in sea levels
already


Oh? Another science genius? Just for the sake of discussion do the
following
simple experiment: put some known volume of water (measured to the
closest
cubic cm) and put it into a graduated cylinder with an ice cube.
Naturally
the total volume will be higher. But note that volume and finally note
the
volume when the ice has melted. It will be greater (and higher? than the
combined shown volume of the water with the cube floating in the water.

It will be the same.


Wonder why the final volume (and height) of the water will be higher
than the
volume of the water with the ice cube floating in it?

It would be truly miraculous, if this were the case. It can only
happen if the temperature of the water changes, and since the water that
carries the ice is close to freezing anyway, no big change is expected.


The weight of the water will not change. The total volume will decrease.
Doing the experiment your way, ignores the amount of ice above the waterline
on the beaker. Ice is one of the few substances that expands when it
solidifies / crystallizes. Water is densest at about 4-5 degrees C. The
reason the coastal areas would flood if the polar ice melted, is because a
lot of that ice is on dry land. Greenland is about 2 miles thick with ice.
The sea ice melting, does not change the height of the seas, but if the
polar land ice pack melts, that is alot of cubic miles / kilometers of water
released to the seas. But we have experience mini-ice ages about every
11,000 years, so temperatures swings are normal. The argument is: what part
of the temperature swing is man induced?

=v= I dunno why USA/Canada and Europe are included, but I've
set followups back to the Bay Area, where they belong.

=v= Scuba is fun stuff, and don't misunderestimate horse
manure. Back when horses were a prominent part of San
Francisco's transportation alternatives, people used to run
out into the streets and collect their droppings to fertilize
their yards. In fact, horse manure is what turned Golden
Gate Park from sand dunes into soil where trees and other
plants could grow!
_Jym_