Buffalo-to-Toronto Questions.

A lot of chat for two dull cities!
"Sancho Panza" wrote in message
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"Chris Bessert" wrote in message
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Yes, proof of citizenship is required -- a passport is not.

Essentially, if you don't have one, don't sweat it -- just take along
those items you'd probably already have in your wallet, such as a state
driver's license,

A driver's license is most definnitely not "proof of citizenship." New
York
State proved that again last week when DMV Commissioner Martinez pointed
out
that all you need is a letter from Social Security saying you are
ineligble
for a Social Security number and New York State will issue you or anyone
else who comes in off the street a driver's license just like that.

The whole thing is an out-and-out farce.

A lot of chat for two dull cities!
"Sancho Panza" wrote in message
.. .

"Chris Bessert" wrote in message
...
Yes, proof of citizenship is required -- a passport is not.

Essentially, if you don't have one, don't sweat it -- just take along
those items you'd probably already have in your wallet, such as a state
driver's license,

A driver's license is most definnitely not "proof of citizenship." New
York
State proved that again last week when DMV Commissioner Martinez pointed
out
that all you need is a letter from Social Security saying you are
ineligble
for a Social Security number and New York State will issue you or anyone
else who comes in off the street a driver's license just like that.

The whole thing is an out-and-out farce.

In article ,
Chris Bessert wrote:

Mind you, there were two vehicles sitting in the "inspection area"
when we went past after clearing customs with their trunks open, etc.,
so they still will yank you over to the side if they feel there is a
reason to do so -- that hasn't changed. But to say that it is "not as
easy as it used to be" to re-enter the U.S. has most definately NOT
been borne out by my experience moving between Ontario and Michigan,
Ontario and New York and British Columbia and Washington.

Your mileage may vary...

Yes, mine does. Between New York and Quebec, and especially at the
smaller crossings, the US officials are much more inquisitive than they
used to be. Not oppressively so, and I never said they were. But it
definitely helps to show them a passport.

I daresay that most American's international experience is *none.*
For those who never intend to leave North America, fine. But for
those of us with wunderlust, or fancies ourselves an international
man (or woman) of mystery, it only makes sense. =R=

I always that that the average American was relatively well travelled.

Leaving philosophical discussions about the insular nature of the USA
and perspectives of the world aside, I think a big issue with
Americans travelling is they get very little vacation time as compared
to other nations of the world (to be sure, Canada's only slightly
better). When your vacation allotment is ten days it's a heck of a
lot easier to take a long weekend to Disneyworld than it is to fly to
London or Paris.

Cheers,
Geoff Glave
Vancouver, Canada

OK

I checked yesterday

US Canada agreement states
car rentals can only end in country of origin you must return to any
office but you can not allow you to leave in other country
at Niagara Falls major companies will pick you up at crossing and take
you to their offices to transfer to one of their cars
If you are non citizen of US or Canada you can be refused for taking a
rental across boarder it occurs about 1% of time

YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION ON CONTRACT TO TAKE CAR ACROSS BOARDER
other wise you are not covered by insurance

hope this helps

James Robinson wrote:

Chris Bessert wrote:


Smiley wrote:



Why you should have been stopped
I have had to leave 2 cars behind I will be back in US tomorrow and will
look into it again


I'm sorry, but I can't understand what is trying to be said here. Adding
some punctuation might help the rest of us comprehend.



My guess is that what he is describing is related to cross-border
rentals. This is not related to 9/11, but contracts.

In theory, Canadian residents are not allowed to bring a car into Canada
on a US rental agreement, unless it is to immediately deliver the car to
a Canadian rental agency. As an example, a Toronto resident can't rent a
car in Seattle to drive into British Columbia for a tour and then return
it to Seattle. They will allow the person to take the car to the
nearest Canadian rental agency and get a Canadian agreement, to continue
the trip.

I wouldn't be surprised if the US doesn't have some similar regulation.



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Smiley wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

My guess is that what he is describing is related to cross-border
rentals. This is not related to 9/11, but contracts.

US Canada agreement states
car rentals can only end in country of origin you must return to any
office but you can not allow you to leave in other country

Even that is not a hard rule. Rental companies, like Avis, will allow
you to rent one-way between larger cities, like Buffalo airport to
Toronto airport, or between Seattle and Vancouver. They issue you a
different contract.

How bad is parking in Downtown Toronto? We plan to park it somewhere,
and take public transportation to as many places as we can. The place
where we are staying is a block from the streetcar, and two blocks from
the TTC subway.

check out www.greenp.com if your looking for parking

Togirldowntown wrote:


How bad is parking in Downtown Toronto? We plan to park it somewhere,
and take public transportation to as many places as we can. The place
where we are staying is a block from the streetcar, and two blocks from
the TTC subway.

check out www.greenp.com if your looking for parking

I never have any trouble at all finding parking pretty much anywhere in
downtown Toronto. Having said that, be aware that the authorities are
in full gouge mode. Never park illegally, even for a few moments,
unless you're feeling very lucky indeed (in which case, buy a lottery
ticket instead). Never let the meter run out (most have now been
replaced by ticket machines - you buy time at a machine and put the
receipt on the dash). The minimum parking fine is now Can$30 and the
green hornets (as the parking enforcers are called) are on the job in
swarms.