US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:47:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote in post :
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On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :

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The queues aren't unique to the

USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the

airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.

Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.

--

Tim C. Linz, Austria.

We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent!

:-) The good thing about Austria is that ALL airports here are provincial.

--
Tim C. Linz, Austria.

Am Sat, 07 Jun 2014 06:25:42 +0100 schrieb Mike O'Sullivan:

On 06/06/2014 09:56, Martin wrote:

It varies at both ends from trip to trip. In UK they are looking for and
catching illegal immigrants with forged/stolen passports; and for drugs. The
Dutch don't have a problem because their land borders are open to everybody, and
are exporters of drugs. We've never had a problem or delays entering via
Newcastle.

Flying back from Amsterdam Schipol to Gatwick I remember they used a
friendly sniffer dog. he just made a walk past of the line of entering
passengers. Didn't cause a delay.

That happened to me on a flight from Jamaica to Frankfurt, where the dog
would also sniff everyone in the line. Okay, when you arrive from Jamaica
you would expect something like that.

Regards,

Frank

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:00:24 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:38:46 +0200, "Tim C." wrote:



On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:47:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote in post :

:



On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :



:



The queues aren't unique to the



USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the



airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.



Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.



--



Tim C. Linz, Austria.



We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent!



:-) The good thing about Austria is that ALL airports here are provincial.



I followed up something in a Wallander TV plot and discovered that Moldova

doesn't appear to have an airport. I'm still wondering why he decided to take

the ferry from Ystad, Sweden to Moldova.

--



Martin in Zuid Holland



www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc

Yeh - we wondered that too!

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:00:24 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:38:46 +0200, "Tim C." wrote:



On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:47:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote in post :

:



On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :



:



The queues aren't unique to the



USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the



airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.



Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.



--



Tim C. Linz, Austria.



We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent!



:-) The good thing about Austria is that ALL airports here are provincial.



I followed up something in a Wallander TV plot and discovered that Moldova

doesn't appear to have an airport. I'm still wondering why he decided to take

the ferry from Ystad, Sweden to Moldova.

--



Martin in Zuid Holland



www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc

There does seem to be an airport at Chisinau. Maybe it was a ferry to Copenhagen for the flight?

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:38:46 +0200, "Tim C." wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:47:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote in post :
:

On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :

:

The queues aren't unique to the

USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended
outside the

airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.

Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.

--

Tim C. Linz, Austria.

We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as
Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are
virtually non-existent!

:-) The good thing about Austria is that ALL airports here are
provincial.

I followed up something in a Wallander TV plot and discovered that Moldova
doesn't appear to have an airport.



Chi?inau International Airport

12 airlines flying to approx 30 destinations.

Only one anywhere near Sweden is Riga, which is perhaps why he started with
the ferry.

the most "connected" opportunity is Frankfurt, but you can't fly to there
from Malmo either.

tim

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
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"JohnT" wrote:
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I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an e-ticket
can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer system -
Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It
doesn't have two halfs.

Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the USA or
on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for comparison.


In Europe itself I normally take the train. This was part of a cruise
package. No one could understand how they mucked up the return half of an
e-ticket. I even had it in my hand! Even so, what was in their computer
didn't match it. The number was correct, but someone had butchered my
name. Computers are seldom that kind of stupid.

OK, so it wasn't British Airways who made the mistake. The error was by
whoever booked your cruise package as you had no direct contact with BA
in the booking process. And computers are totally without intelligence.
They rely entirely on whoever programs them and/or feeds information to
their programs.

No, everything was correct on the e-ticket for both legs of the trip, as
the woman at the BA counter agreed. Someone had intervened and mucked up
my name, apparently while I was on the cruise. The ticket was part of the
cruise package.

But there is no evidence at all that British Airways were at fault.

Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with any other airline I've
dealt with.


--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
.

I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an
e-ticket
can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer
system -
Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It
doesn't have two halfs.

Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the USA
or
on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for
comparison.


In Europe itself I normally take the train. This was part of a cruise
package. No one could understand how they mucked up the return half
of an
e-ticket. I even had it in my hand! Even so, what was in their
computer
didn't match it. The number was correct, but someone had butchered my
name. Computers are seldom that kind of stupid.

OK, so it wasn't British Airways who made the mistake. The error was by
whoever booked your cruise package as you had no direct contact with BA
in the booking process. And computers are totally without intelligence.
They rely entirely on whoever programs them and/or feeds information to
their programs.

No, everything was correct on the e-ticket for both legs of the trip, as
the woman at the BA counter agreed. Someone had intervened and mucked
up
my name, apparently while I was on the cruise. The ticket was part of
the
cruise package.

But there is no evidence at all that British Airways were at fault.

Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with any other airline
I've
dealt with.

OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?
--
JohnT

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
.

I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an e-ticket
can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer system -
Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It
doesn't have two halfs.

Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the USA or
on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for comparison.


In Europe itself I normally take the train. This was part of a cruise
package. No one could understand how they mucked up the return half of an
e-ticket. I even had it in my hand! Even so, what was in their computer
didn't match it. The number was correct, but someone had butchered my
name. Computers are seldom that kind of stupid.

OK, so it wasn't British Airways who made the mistake. The error was by
whoever booked your cruise package as you had no direct contact with BA
in the booking process. And computers are totally without intelligence.
They rely entirely on whoever programs them and/or feeds information to
their programs.

No, everything was correct on the e-ticket for both legs of the trip, as
the woman at the BA counter agreed. Someone had intervened and mucked up
my name, apparently while I was on the cruise. The ticket was part of the
cruise package.

But there is no evidence at all that British Airways were at fault.

Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with any other airline I've
dealt with.

OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?

SAS, Lufthansa, or United.
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"JohnT" wrote:
.

I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an
e-ticket
can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer
system -
Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It
doesn't have two halfs.

Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the
USA or
on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for
comparison.


In Europe itself I normally take the train. This was part of a
cruise
package. No one could understand how they mucked up the return
half of an
e-ticket. I even had it in my hand! Even so, what was in their
computer
didn't match it. The number was correct, but someone had butchered
my
name. Computers are seldom that kind of stupid.

OK, so it wasn't British Airways who made the mistake. The error was
by
whoever booked your cruise package as you had no direct contact with
BA
in the booking process. And computers are totally without
intelligence.
They rely entirely on whoever programs them and/or feeds information
to
their programs.

No, everything was correct on the e-ticket for both legs of the trip,
as
the woman at the BA counter agreed. Someone had intervened and
mucked up
my name, apparently while I was on the cruise. The ticket was part
of the
cruise package.

But there is no evidence at all that British Airways were at fault.

Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with any other airline
I've
dealt with.

OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?

SAS, Lufthansa, or United.

Lucky them :-)

Does Erilar possess an Irony Meter? If so, does she know how to switch it
on?
--
JohnT

Martin wrote:


Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)



Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?

Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.

Note: irony needs more than one note to be worth notice.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad