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Old February 26th, 2005, 05:17 PM
nobody
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Default BA flies 747 on 3 engines LAX-UK - New EU comp rules

s k y n e w s wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...499342,00.html

Flying faulty jumbo across Atlantic saves BA £100,000
By Ben Webster


This has interesting repercussions on fleet choices.

On a twin engine plane, failure of an engine would hace required, by
law, the pilot to land at the NEAREST suitable airport.

With a 4 engine plane, loss of an engine requires pilot to land at the
nearest "convenient" airport, giving pilot lots of decision latitude.

If engine failures are rare, this probably doesn't make much of a
difference. But if they are common, then euro airlines will start to
prefer 4 engined planes over twins.#

Passengeres probably were never in an unsafe situation, but this
incident sure gives BA a very bad safety image and there will be plenty
of blame around on the new compensation thing.

BTW, does anyone know if Lufthansa had to make the big payouts because
FRA was shutdown by the Bush regime's visit , forcing calncellation of
over 70 flights ? Or was it declared out of its control and thus
allowing LH to not be held responsible for cpassenger compensation ?
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Old February 26th, 2005, 05:25 PM
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"nobody" wrote in message
news:1109437497.e506f12f40fc2f006b7aa4b65d8c3237@t eranews...
s k y n e w s wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...499342,00.html

Flying faulty jumbo across Atlantic saves BA £100,000
By Ben Webster


This has interesting repercussions on fleet choices.

On a twin engine plane, failure of an engine would hace required, by
law, the pilot to land at the NEAREST suitable airport.

With a 4 engine plane, loss of an engine requires pilot to land at the
nearest "convenient" airport, giving pilot lots of decision latitude.

If engine failures are rare, this probably doesn't make much of a
difference. But if they are common, then euro airlines will start to
prefer 4 engined planes over twins.#

Passengeres probably were never in an unsafe situation, but this
incident sure gives BA a very bad safety image and there will be plenty
of blame around on the new compensation thing.

BTW, does anyone know if Lufthansa had to make the big payouts because
FRA was shutdown by the Bush regime's visit , forcing calncellation of
over 70 flights ? Or was it declared out of its control and thus
allowing LH to not be held responsible for cpassenger compensation ?


What's your story? This is starting out to be a discussion on BA & engine
failure. You add at the end of your post, a question, that will slowly turn
this thread into a political, US bashing subject. I'll have to kill file
this thread in a day or two. Way to go.


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Old February 26th, 2005, 06:06 PM
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"Service Tech" wrote:
I'll have to kill file this thread in a day or two.


I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe. If you've ever posted anything
there it wasn't interesting enough to notice, so why should we care?

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Old February 26th, 2005, 06:31 PM
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"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message
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"Service Tech" wrote:
I'll have to kill file this thread in a day or two.


I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe. If you've ever posted anything
there it wasn't interesting enough to notice, so why should we care?

Followups set.

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Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660

4760
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975
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Sorry, This doesn't pertain to RTE & I should have cut it.


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Old February 26th, 2005, 07:35 PM
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nobody
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s k y n e w s wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...499342,00.html

Flying faulty jumbo across Atlantic saves BA £100,000
By Ben Webster


This has interesting repercussions on fleet choices.

On a twin engine plane, failure of an engine would hace required, by
law, the pilot to land at the NEAREST suitable airport.

With a 4 engine plane, loss of an engine requires pilot to land at the
nearest "convenient" airport, giving pilot lots of decision latitude.

If engine failures are rare, this probably doesn't make much of a
difference. But if they are common, then euro airlines will start to
prefer 4 engined planes over twins.#

Passengeres probably were never in an unsafe situation, but this
incident sure gives BA a very bad safety image and there will be plenty
of blame around on the new compensation thing.


BA don't need an excuse like that to make bad decisions based on commercial
reasons.

The 747 that nearly hit the Penta is a case in point.



Bertie

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Old February 26th, 2005, 09:44 PM
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"Service Tech" wrote in message
. com...

"nobody" wrote in message
news:1109437497.e506f12f40fc2f006b7aa4b65d8c3237@t eranews...
s k y n e w s wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...499342,00.html

Flying faulty jumbo across Atlantic saves BA £100,000
By Ben Webster


This has interesting repercussions on fleet choices.

On a twin engine plane, failure of an engine would hace required, by
law, the pilot to land at the NEAREST suitable airport.

With a 4 engine plane, loss of an engine requires pilot to land at the
nearest "convenient" airport, giving pilot lots of decision latitude.

If engine failures are rare, this probably doesn't make much of a
difference. But if they are common, then euro airlines will start to
prefer 4 engined planes over twins.#

Passengeres probably were never in an unsafe situation, but this
incident sure gives BA a very bad safety image and there will be plenty
of blame around on the new compensation thing.

BTW, does anyone know if Lufthansa had to make the big payouts because
FRA was shutdown by the Bush regime's visit , forcing calncellation of
over 70 flights ? Or was it declared out of its control and thus
allowing LH to not be held responsible for cpassenger compensation ?


What's your story? This is starting out to be a discussion on BA & engine
failure. You add at the end of your post, a question, that will slowly
turn
this thread into a political, US bashing subject. I'll have to kill file
this thread in a day or two. Way to go.


Service Tech, meet J.F. Mezei, aka "Nobody".


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Old February 27th, 2005, 10:53 PM
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"nobody" wrote in message
news:1109437497.e506f12f40fc2f006b7aa4b65d8c3237@t eranews...
s k y n e w s wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...499342,00.html

Flying faulty jumbo across Atlantic saves BA £100,000
By Ben Webster


This has interesting repercussions on fleet choices.

On a twin engine plane, failure of an engine would hace required, by
law, the pilot to land at the NEAREST suitable airport.

With a 4 engine plane, loss of an engine requires pilot to land at the
nearest "convenient" airport, giving pilot lots of decision latitude.


Where do these requirements appear in the Air Navigation Order, which is the
relevant law for a British registered aircraft?

Colin Bignell


 




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