HR427 Vietnam Human Rights Act -- VC Leaders are Acting like Aggressive and Remorseless Criminals

"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message ...
Vietnam is not small fish - there was some testimony last years before the
House and/or Senate as to Vietnam having gone into the WMD field. They have
had a CBW program since the early 1960 period. Vietnam is also said to have
developed a new relationship with China ?

Could you please provide a concrete evidence on your accusation. This
is probably 100th time that I heard this accusation from you but I
haven't seen no evidence from you just yet. For the start, could you
provide some names and the date of the testimony involved? We could do
some trace-up from there.

BTW, if Vietnam is developing WMD, surely the USA should start embargo
against the Israel too. The Israel has been helping to ARM the Vietnam
in recent years. Source: http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/afm136.htm

Finally, I see that you certainly go real cold on the China's case. By
your categories: developing WMD in 1960's and aiding "hostile states",
China would have been on the top of your list. Did China develop WMD
back in 1960's? Oh yeap, No doubt. Aiding North Korea? No one with a
sane mind could deny that.

And if you consider Vietnam to be a hostile state then certainly,
Israel would be on the list too. Israel certainly has the WMD capacity
and certainly helping Vietnam in recent years MILITARILY.

Thank you.

"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message . ..
The U.S. should bar all travel to Vietnam and revoke the passports of anyone
who violates it. They can cut off favored nation status and halt all
imports from landing in the U.S by whatever means. Such sanctions will be
followed by other nations as well. The U.S. can expel all diplomatic
officials from the U.S. and should do so anyway since the Vietnamese are
knowingly aiding terrorism on the global scene and have entered into an
agreement with Fidel Castro to work against the United States.
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"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message . ..
The U.S. should bar all travel to Vietnam and revoke the passports of anyone
who violates it. They can cut off favored nation status and halt all
imports from landing in the U.S by whatever means. Such sanctions will be
followed by other nations as well. The U.S. can expel all diplomatic
officials from the U.S. and should do so anyway since the Vietnamese are
knowingly aiding terrorism on the global scene and have entered into an
agreement with Fidel Castro to work against the United States.
--------------------


Don't know about all that... But at least, the INS should start to
impose a new requirement in which any new male applicant (ages 18 to
35) for a green card or US citizenship should first serve at least 3
years in military in his new country. Otherwise, we kept getting a
bunch of smart asses who always speak on both sides of their mouth...
In recent days, there have been so many members of former police
force, children and relatives of high ranking commie party members
making up a large number of the anti-american Americans!!!
These people would always maintain that there is nothing wrong with
Vietnam and the US government should continue to aid and reinforce the
oppressive machine--the Vietnamese Communist Party--in a place where
the majority of people when given a chance would leave the country in
a heart beat!

n.t.
(the new Uncle Tom! Heheheh!!!)

Minh Duc" wrote in message
m...
"unknown" wrote in message ...

With the pending HR427 legislation, The US Congress is contemplating
making non-humanitarian aid to Communist Vietnam contingent upon
Vietnam's certifiable improvements in its human rights practices.
s I read your post, I ask myself a couple of questios. What are
non-humanitarian aids the United States give to Vietnam? How many million dollars? What is the budget of the Socialist Republic of ietnam
annually?
Comparing the SRV's budget to the Non-humanitarian aids, would such
legislation in congress has the power to change anything in Vietnam? To
answer such questions, I went the very popular search engine on the
internet, google.com and typed in some key words such as "United States
none
humanitarian aids Vientam". I found a very good link right off the top
that would answer pretty much most of my questions, and here it is:

http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/

The link says the United States give Vietnam about 12 millions dollars
of
aids each year focus in two major areas of the economy and healthcare.
First on economy, "The objectives of this program are to strengthen the
Vietnamese private sector, and to help the GOV to deepen trade and
investment related reforms consistent with its commitments in the
Bilateral
Trade Agreement. Successful implementation of these reforms will also
help
Vietnam meet some of the requirements for accession into the World Trade
Organization (WTO)." said the link. In other words, these aids designed
to
strengthen Vietnam's private sector or to help Vietnam's business sector
become more capitalized. Second on healthcare, "USAID's Bureau for
Global
Health provides assistance to improve access to services for vulnerable
groups through the Leahy War Victims Fund and the Displaced Children and
Orphan Fund. The HIV/AIDS program helps Vietnam control the spread of
HIV/AIDS by improving surveillance capacity and prevention
interventions,
and assisting people living with AIDS. The Office of Foreign Disaster
Assistance helps Vietnam improve its disaster preparedness capacity,
focusing on flood forecasting and mitigation. The United States-Asia
Environmental Partnership (US-AEP) improves Vietnam's overall
environmental
financing and regulatory framework and develops decentralized approaches
to
urban and natural resource management through partnerships between U.S.
and
Vietnamese cities. Finally, USAID provides assistance to women and
children
rescued from trafficking."said the link.

Program data sheet allocates to improve help strengthen the Vietnamese
private sector:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-006.html

Program data sheet allocates to improve Vietnam's health system:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-007.html

I also searched at google.com to check the United States foreign
military
aids to other countries because it is an area which considered to be
non-humanitarian aids. I found a pretty good link also and I look under
Vietnam.
http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/aid...bj08-easia.pdf

All the infos are identical to the previous link is that it spells out
U.S's
aids to strengthen Vietnam's business sector and healthcare system,
except
the pentagon and pacific command add 100,000 dollars to train Vietnamese
military officers to be proficient in English.

The searches were certainly a good educational experience because now I
know
why the so called South Vietnamese regime lost the war despite massive
U.S's
support. I know why the so called exile Vietnam regime has litte
success in
their 30 years quest to bring about democratic changes to Vietnam.
Because
they use these stupid methods that shot themselves in the foot and turn
the
Vietnamese people against them. I ask myself what sort of people would
want
to cut off aids for their country to become more capitalist? Would such
people's ideology similar to the control economy of communist's
ideology?
What sort people would want to cut off aids to people with HIV,orphan,
victim of landmine, and flood? Would these people do anything to
advance
their political causes at a heavy expense of their own people? I would
best
call these people and such legislation of congress are anything, but
human
rights and democratic. Instead, I would call them not only pity, but
wrong
and evil.

Can you tell which ones in your list of aids are humanitarian aids and
which ones are non-humanitarian:
Aid for people with HIV
Aid for orphan
Aid for victims of landmine
Aid for victimes of flood
Aid for training English for Vietnamese officiers

Can you tell which ones of the above aids would be affected by the
HR427?

Can you tell what kind of human right violations committed by the
Vietnamese regime and how serious they are can lead to the ban of
non-humanitarian aids ?

Minh Duc





"Minh Duc" wrote in message
m...
"unknown" wrote in message
...

With the pending HR427 legislation, The US Congress is contemplating
making non-humanitarian aids to Communist Vietnam contingent upon
Vietnam's certifiable improvements in its human rights practices.


As I read your post, I ask myself a couple of questions. What are
non-humanitarian aids the United States give to Vietnam? How many
million
dollars? What is the budget of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam
annually?
Comparing the SRV's budget to the Non-humanitarian aids, would such
legislation in congress has the power to change anything in Vietnam? To
answer such questions, I went the very popular search engine on the
internet, google.com and typed in some key words such as "United States
none
humanitarian aids Vientam". I found a very good link right off the top
that would answer pretty much most of my questions, and here it is:

http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/

The link says the United States give Vietnam about 12 millions dollars
of
aids each year focus in two major areas of the economy and healthcare.
First on economy, "The objectives of this program are to strengthen the
Vietnamese private sector, and to help the GOV to deepen trade and
investment related reforms consistent with its commitments in the
Bilateral
Trade Agreement. Successful implementation of these reforms will also
help
Vietnam meet some of the requirements for accession into the World Trade
Organization (WTO)." said the link. In other words, these aids designed
to
strengthen Vietnam's private sector or to help Vietnam's business sector
become more capitalized. Second on healthcare, "USAID's Bureau for
Global
Health provides assistance to improve access to services for vulnerable
groups through the Leahy War Victims Fund and the Displaced Children and
Orphan Fund. The HIV/AIDS program helps Vietnam control the spread of
HIV/AIDS by improving surveillance capacity and prevention
interventions,
and assisting people living with AIDS. The Office of Foreign Disaster
Assistance helps Vietnam improve its disaster preparedness capacity,
focusing on flood forecasting and mitigation. The United States-Asia
Environmental Partnership (US-AEP) improves Vietnam's overall
environmental
financing and regulatory framework and develops decentralized approaches
to
urban and natural resource management through partnerships between U.S.
and
Vietnamese cities. Finally, USAID provides assistance to women and
children
rescued from trafficking."said the link.

Program data sheet allocates to improve help strengthen the Vietnamese
private sector:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-006.html

Program data sheet allocates to improve Vietnam's health system:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-007.html

I also searched at google.com to check the United States foreign
military
aids to other countries because it is an area which considered to be
non-humanitarian aids. I found a pretty good link also and I look under
Vietnam.
http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/aid...bj08-easia.pdf

All the infos are identical to the previous link is that it spells out
U.S's
aids to strengthen Vietnam's business sector and healthcare system,
except
the pentagon and pacific command add 100,000 dollars to train Vietnamese
military officers to be proficient in English.

The searches were certainly a good educational experience because now I
know
why the so called South Vietnamese regime lost the war despite massive
U.S's
support. I know why the so called exile Vietnam regime has litte
success in
their 30 years quest to bring about democratic changes to Vietnam.
Because
they use these stupid methods that shot themselves in the foot and turn
the
Vietnamese people against them. I ask myself what sort of people would
want
to cut off aids for their country to become more capitalist? Would such
people's ideology similar to the control economy of communist's
ideology?
What sort people would want to cut off aids to people with HIV,orphan,
victim of landmine, and flood? Would these people do anything to
advance
their political causes at a heavy expense of their own people? I would
best
call these people and such legislation of congress are anything, but
human
rights and democratic. Instead, I would call them not only pity, but
wrong
and evil.

Can you tell which ones in your list of aids are humanitarian aids and
which ones are non-humanitarian:

Aid for people with HIV
Aid for orphan
Aid for victims of landmine
Aid for victimes of flood
Aid for training English for Vietnamese officiers

Can you tell which ones of the above aids would be affected by the
HR427?

Can you tell what kind of human right violations committed by the
Vietnamese regime and how serious they are can lead to the ban of
non-humanitarian aids ?

Minh Duc

"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote:
Vietnam is not small fish - there was some testimony last years before the
House and/or Senate as to Vietnam having gone into the WMD field.

Give me a break. Prove it. For once, prove it. $100 to your favorite charity says
you can't back this ridiculous claim up.

We all know I work with VN tourist company, so don't come back with some
lame reply about that. Just tell us when/where/what committee, etc.

But, since there was no such testimony, you won't be able to do so.

Doug

Have you ever weared an American uniform? I am quite sure that you
spent a large portion of your time when you was 18-35 years, living in
America.

If you could not do it then, then keep your mouth shut now. Thank you.

Tran Cao Ky wrote:
Have you ever weared an American uniform? I am quite sure that you
spent a large portion of your time when you was 18-35 years, living in
America.

If you could not do it then, then keep your mouth shut now. Thank you.

---------------------------------------------------

Dear comrade Cao ky,

I would love to satisfy your curiosity, but I don't think you can
handle the truth! Nope, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! :-)

However, you're entitled to my opinion too! Heheheh!!!
And with me around, you will never have to shut up...

Cheers,
n.t.





Minh Duc" wrote in message
m...
"unknown" wrote in message ...

With the pending HR427 legislation, The US Congress is contemplating
making non-humanitarian aid to Communist Vietnam contingent upon
Vietnam's certifiable improvements in its human rights practices.
s I read your post, I ask myself a couple of questios. What are
non-humanitarian aids the United States give to Vietnam? How many million dollars? What is the budget of the Socialist Republic of ietnam
annually?
Comparing the SRV's budget to the Non-humanitarian aids, would such
legislation in congress has the power to change anything in Vietnam? To
answer such questions, I went the very popular search engine on the
internet, google.com and typed in some key words such as "United States
none
humanitarian aids Vientam". I found a very good link right off the top
that would answer pretty much most of my questions, and here it is:

http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/

The link says the United States give Vietnam about 12 millions dollars
of
aids each year focus in two major areas of the economy and healthcare.
First on economy, "The objectives of this program are to strengthen the
Vietnamese private sector, and to help the GOV to deepen trade and
investment related reforms consistent with its commitments in the
Bilateral
Trade Agreement. Successful implementation of these reforms will also
help
Vietnam meet some of the requirements for accession into the World Trade
Organization (WTO)." said the link. In other words, these aids designed
to
strengthen Vietnam's private sector or to help Vietnam's business sector
become more capitalized. Second on healthcare, "USAID's Bureau for
Global
Health provides assistance to improve access to services for vulnerable
groups through the Leahy War Victims Fund and the Displaced Children and
Orphan Fund. The HIV/AIDS program helps Vietnam control the spread of
HIV/AIDS by improving surveillance capacity and prevention
interventions,
and assisting people living with AIDS. The Office of Foreign Disaster
Assistance helps Vietnam improve its disaster preparedness capacity,
focusing on flood forecasting and mitigation. The United States-Asia
Environmental Partnership (US-AEP) improves Vietnam's overall
environmental
financing and regulatory framework and develops decentralized approaches
to
urban and natural resource management through partnerships between U.S.
and
Vietnamese cities. Finally, USAID provides assistance to women and
children
rescued from trafficking."said the link.

Program data sheet allocates to improve help strengthen the Vietnamese
private sector:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-006.html

Program data sheet allocates to improve Vietnam's health system:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-007.html

I also searched at google.com to check the United States foreign
military
aids to other countries because it is an area which considered to be
non-humanitarian aids. I found a pretty good link also and I look under
Vietnam.
http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/aid...bj08-easia.pdf

All the infos are identical to the previous link is that it spells out
U.S's
aids to strengthen Vietnam's business sector and healthcare system,
except
the pentagon and pacific command add 100,000 dollars to train Vietnamese
military officers to be proficient in English.

The searches were certainly a good educational experience because now I
know
why the so called South Vietnamese regime lost the war despite massive
U.S's
support. I know why the so called exile Vietnam regime has litte
success in
their 30 years quest to bring about democratic changes to Vietnam.
Because
they use these stupid methods that shot themselves in the foot and turn
the
Vietnamese people against them. I ask myself what sort of people would
want
to cut off aids for their country to become more capitalist? Would such
people's ideology similar to the control economy of communist's
ideology?
What sort people would want to cut off aids to people with HIV,orphan,
victim of landmine, and flood? Would these people do anything to
advance
their political causes at a heavy expense of their own people? I would
best
call these people and such legislation of congress are anything, but
human
rights and democratic. Instead, I would call them not only pity, but
wrong
and evil.

Can you tell which ones in your list of aids are humanitarian aids and
which ones are non-humanitarian:
Aid for people with HIV
Aid for orphan
Aid for victims of landmine
Aid for victimes of flood
Aid for training English for Vietnamese officiers

Can you tell which ones of the above aids would be affected by the
HR427?

Can you tell what kind of human right violations committed by the
Vietnamese regime and how serious they are can lead to the ban of
non-humanitarian aids ?

Minh Duc





"Minh Duc" wrote in message
m...
"unknown" wrote in message
...

With the pending HR427 legislation, The US Congress is contemplating
making non-humanitarian aids to Communist Vietnam contingent upon
Vietnam's certifiable improvements in its human rights practices.


As I read your post, I ask myself a couple of questions. What are
non-humanitarian aids the United States give to Vietnam? How many
million
dollars? What is the budget of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam
annually?
Comparing the SRV's budget to the Non-humanitarian aids, would such
legislation in congress has the power to change anything in Vietnam? To
answer such questions, I went the very popular search engine on the
internet, google.com and typed in some key words such as "United States
none
humanitarian aids Vientam". I found a very good link right off the top
that would answer pretty much most of my questions, and here it is:

http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/

The link says the United States give Vietnam about 12 millions dollars
of
aids each year focus in two major areas of the economy and healthcare.
First on economy, "The objectives of this program are to strengthen the
Vietnamese private sector, and to help the GOV to deepen trade and
investment related reforms consistent with its commitments in the
Bilateral
Trade Agreement. Successful implementation of these reforms will also
help
Vietnam meet some of the requirements for accession into the World Trade
Organization (WTO)." said the link. In other words, these aids designed
to
strengthen Vietnam's private sector or to help Vietnam's business sector
become more capitalized. Second on healthcare, "USAID's Bureau for
Global
Health provides assistance to improve access to services for vulnerable
groups through the Leahy War Victims Fund and the Displaced Children and
Orphan Fund. The HIV/AIDS program helps Vietnam control the spread of
HIV/AIDS by improving surveillance capacity and prevention
interventions,
and assisting people living with AIDS. The Office of Foreign Disaster
Assistance helps Vietnam improve its disaster preparedness capacity,
focusing on flood forecasting and mitigation. The United States-Asia
Environmental Partnership (US-AEP) improves Vietnam's overall
environmental
financing and regulatory framework and develops decentralized approaches
to
urban and natural resource management through partnerships between U.S.
and
Vietnamese cities. Finally, USAID provides assistance to women and
children
rescued from trafficking."said the link.

Program data sheet allocates to improve help strengthen the Vietnamese
private sector:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-006.html

Program data sheet allocates to improve Vietnam's health system:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-007.html

I also searched at google.com to check the United States foreign
military
aids to other countries because it is an area which considered to be
non-humanitarian aids. I found a pretty good link also and I look under
Vietnam.
http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/aid...bj08-easia.pdf

All the infos are identical to the previous link is that it spells out
U.S's
aids to strengthen Vietnam's business sector and healthcare system,
except
the pentagon and pacific command add 100,000 dollars to train Vietnamese
military officers to be proficient in English.

The searches were certainly a good educational experience because now I
know
why the so called South Vietnamese regime lost the war despite massive
U.S's
support. I know why the so called exile Vietnam regime has litte
success in
their 30 years quest to bring about democratic changes to Vietnam.
Because
they use these stupid methods that shot themselves in the foot and turn
the
Vietnamese people against them. I ask myself what sort of people would
want
to cut off aids for their country to become more capitalist? Would such
people's ideology similar to the control economy of communist's
ideology?
What sort people would want to cut off aids to people with HIV,orphan,
victim of landmine, and flood? Would these people do anything to
advance
their political causes at a heavy expense of their own people? I would
best
call these people and such legislation of congress are anything, but
human
rights and democratic. Instead, I would call them not only pity, but
wrong
and evil.

Can you tell which ones in your list of aids are humanitarian aids and
which ones are non-humanitarian:

Aid for people with HIV
Aid for orphan
Aid for victims of landmine
Aid for victimes of flood
Aid for training English for Vietnamese officiers

Can you tell which ones of the above aids would be affected by the
HR427?

Can you tell what kind of human right violations committed by the
Vietnamese regime and how serious they are can lead to the ban of
non-humanitarian aids ?

Minh Duc

Former Director of Naval Intelligence/DIA Director. Testimony by a R/Adm.
Common knowledge around Washington and the testimony was unclassified. I
will endeavor to get you an exact citation.

Dr. Thach, former Minister of Health headed North Vietnam's CBW program
during the war years. Common knowledge, see transcripts of the former HCIS,
SCIS 1973 . He is quoted in several books. He was a close friend of Burchett
who was a KGB propaganda expert in Hanoi. Research was carried out under the
guise of academic research. After Thach died I am not sure who took the
program over.

As for the issue of Israel - weapons development in Israel are defensive in
nature. Israel is an U.S. allied nation . However, the majority of states in
the Middle East have offensive programs.
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"Tran Cao Ky" wrote in message
om...
"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message
...
Vietnam is not small fish - there was some testimony last year before
the
House and/or Senate as to Vietnam having gone into the WMD field. They
have
had a CBW program since the early 1960 period. Vietnam is also said to
have
developed a new relationship with China ?

Could you please provide a concrete evidence on your accusation. This
is probably 100th time that I heard this accusation from you but I
haven't seen no evidence from you just yet. For the start, could you
provide some names and the date of the testimony involved? We could do
some trace-up from there.

BTW, if Vietnam is developing WMD, surely the USA should start embargo
against the Israel too. The Israel has been helping to ARM the Vietnam in
recent years. Source: www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/afm136.htm

Finally, I see that you certainly go real cold on the China's case. By
your categories: developing WMD in 1960's and aiding "hostile states",
China would have been on the top of your list. Did China develop WMD
back in 1960's? Oh yeap, No doubt. Aiding North Korea? No one with a
sane mind could deny that.

And if you consider Vietnam to be a hostile state then certainly,
Israel would be on the list too. Israel certainly has the WMD capacity
and certainly helping Vietnam in recent years MILITARILY.

Thank you.

Go to any college or university library that is a U.S. Gov. depository. I
believe you once stated you were in the WDC area. So you have access to the
NARC. You can get access to the reports of the HCIS and SCIS. The
alternative is the LC and you can spend time going through many volumes.

Also, look up Monterey Institute. Vietnam is listed as a nation with CBW
program - top institute in Monitoring CBW issues on a global basis. You
will also find a lot of case there on the subject.

Also check the Naval Institute proceedings, back issues. More to follow
later on the subject.

"Doug Reese" wrote in message
...
"JASON A. KAATZ" wrote:
Vietnam is not small fish - there was some testimony last years before
the
House and/or Senate as to Vietnam having gone into the WMD field.

Give me a break. Prove it. For once, prove it. $100 to your favorite
charity says
you can't back this ridiculous claim up.

We all know I work with VN tourist company, so don't come back with some
lame reply about that. Just tell us when/where/what committee, etc.

But, since there was no such testimony, you won't be able to do so.

Doug

Six years Army, one tour in Vietnam in Army Aviation in an Assault
Helicopter Company and later as a Military Instructor and graduate of the
Army/DOD Faculty Development Program. Taught mainly U.S. and Allied Officers
and EM and NCO'S as well.

What was your contribution to Military Service.

"Tran Cao Ky" wrote in message
om...
Have you ever weared an American uniform? I am quite sure that you
spent a large portion of your time when you was 18-35 years, living in
America.

If you could not do it then, then keep your mouth shut now. Thank you.

The U.S. should bar all travel to Vietnam and revoke the passports of anyone
who violates it. They can cut off favored nation status and halt all
imports from landing in the U.S by whatever means. Such sanctions will be
followed by other nations as well. The U.S. can expel all diplomatic
officials from the U.S. and should do so anyway since the Vietnamese are
knowingly aiding terrorism on the global scene and have entered into an
agreement with Fidel Castro to work against the United States.


You know what? The United States is doing exactly just that to a tiny
nation next to it just to get a couple of votes so King George will win(no i
meant steal) Florida's 25 electorate vote in 2004 again. While other
European Union countries and Canada are busy building dozens and dozens of
tourist resorts in Cuba to make hundreds of millions of dollars, the United
States is spending hundreds of millions of dollars of your tax money doing
the opposite. King George keeps that travel restriction on cuba, and
opposes to lift the 40 years embargo that never proven to work. Instead, he
favors steepen that embargo just to make the florida's cuban happy so he can
get that couple of vote in 2004. King George favors keeping that embargo so
that more cuban will arrive in America, and he will get more vote. King
George is rather watching millions of barrels of corn grew by the american
farmers rotten than sell them to cuba to make money. His gain is at your
cost. You know that thousands of cuban arrived in Florida each year that
cost the states millions of dollars is social welfares. And that cost is
paying for by your tax dollars, but instead we are in a huge deficit, your
children and your grandchildren will pay for that. Such policies are not
only pity, they are wrong, and they are fitted the definition of a
politician who would do anything to get elected. That is why King George 's
republican party just went against Bush's putting restriction on american
travel to the island and trade.

The fact that you have to hide your identity as an unknown nobody
means that your opinions are not worth much!

You are probably one of those VC security police, sitting in Hanoi,
defending the iron-fisted rule of the VC tyrants, and their continual
abuses of the people of Vietnam, for a small salary every month to
feed your family! Your children will probably be deadly ashamed of you
when they find out what you have to do to make a living!

I have been interviewed a few times by the BBC for broadcast into
Vietnam.

The BBC stated that the VCP politburo in Hanoi keeps accusing that
all people, who criticize its poor human rights records, are working
for foreign interests. I maintain that I do not work for any foreign
interests, but my own conscience, and my utmost concerns for the
people of Vietnam who are now the poorest and most oppressed in the
world under the totalitarian Communist regime! The BBC people called
me for interview at my business. They know what I do for a living in
my independent life! I do not make a penny fromthe US government or
any political organization.

The BBC stated that the VCP insists that there is religious freedom in
Vietnam. I know from personal experiences that the VCP has been
trying very hard to infiltrate, manipulate, subjugate, control and
ultimately decimate all religions to maintain its supremacy in
Vietnam! There are documents recently leaked to the press confirming
the VCP's policies and concrete plan to subvert and eradicate all
religions in Vietnam!

The BBC stated that the VCP is screaming the US is interfering with
Vietnam's internal politics with HR427. I maintain that the US is not
interfering with anyone by witholding its own non-humanitarian aids to
untrustworthy regimes. In fact the VCP has been paying lobbyists and
mobilizing its diplomatic staffs and foreign students to lobby US
congress, which are blatant attempts to interfere in the US internal
affairs! US congress should refuse to listen to people who represent
foreign interests such as Vietnam.

The BBC insists that the US commission on International Religious
Freedom's accusations of the VCP's abuses will be just again denied by
the VCP, which will not bring about any concrete results. I insist
that the brutal and shameless lies by the VCP has made it the subject
of scorn ans suspicion by the rest of the world, even among the
business community who wants to cooperate with the ruling tyrants to
make profits! The business community also has social conscience. They
are not likely to put their investments in countries where governments
are oppressive and are not freely elected to represent the people,
such as in Vietnam. The people of Vietnam could be as rich and as
wealthy as the people in Singapore, Taiwan or South Korea if not for
the VCP!

With the VCP, the people of Vietnam will sink further into the pit of
poverty and oppression created by the handful of VC leaders, who want
to maintain their power and privileges at all costs to the people!

The people of Vietnam are ultimately the losers to let the dumb VC's
like Nong Duc Manh, Tran Duc Luong, Phan Van Khai, Nguyen Van An.....
brutally lie, cheat, steal, abuse and be avoided like lepers by the
rest of the world. Their dumb acts cannot fool the rest of the world!

DOAN DUC TAM

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"unknown" wrote in message ...

With the pending HR427 legislation, The US Congress is contemplating
making non-humanitarian aids to Communist Vietnam contingent upon
Vietnam's certifiable improvements in its human rights practices.


As I read your post, I ask myself a couple of questions. What are
non-humanitarian aids the United States give to Vietnam? How many million
dollars? What is the budget of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam annually?
Comparing the SRV's budget to the Non-humanitarian aids, would such
legislation in congress has the power to change anything in Vietnam? To
answer such questions, I went the very popular search engine on the
internet, google.com and typed in some key words such as "United States none
humanitarian aids Vientam". I found a very good link right off the top
that would answer pretty much most of my questions, and here it is:

http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/

The link says the United States give Vietnam about 12 millions dollars of
aids each year focus in two major areas of the economy and healthcare.
First on economy, "The objectives of this program are to strengthen the
Vietnamese private sector, and to help the GOV to deepen trade and
investment related reforms consistent with its commitments in the Bilateral
Trade Agreement. Successful implementation of these reforms will also help
Vietnam meet some of the requirements for accession into the World Trade
Organization (WTO)." said the link. In other words, these aids designed to
strengthen Vietnam's private sector or to help Vietnam's business sector
become more capitalized. Second on healthcare, "USAID's Bureau for Global
Health provides assistance to improve access to services for vulnerable
groups through the Leahy War Victims Fund and the Displaced Children and
Orphan Fund. The HIV/AIDS program helps Vietnam control the spread of
HIV/AIDS by improving surveillance capacity and prevention interventions,
and assisting people living with AIDS. The Office of Foreign Disaster
Assistance helps Vietnam improve its disaster preparedness capacity,
focusing on flood forecasting and mitigation. The United States-Asia
Environmental Partnership (US-AEP) improves Vietnam's overall environmental
financing and regulatory framework and develops decentralized approaches to
urban and natural resource management through partnerships between U.S. and
Vietnamese cities. Finally, USAID provides assistance to women and children
rescued from trafficking."said the link.

Program data sheet allocates to improve help strengthen the Vietnamese
private sector:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-006.html

Program data sheet allocates to improve Vietnam's health system:
http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ane/vn/440-007.html

I also searched at google.com to check the United States foreign military
aids to other countries because it is an area which considered to be
non-humanitarian aids. I found a pretty good link also and I look under
Vietnam.
http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/aid...bj08-easia.pdf

All the infos are identical to the previous link is that it spells out U.S's
aids to strengthen Vietnam's business sector and healthcare system, except
the pentagon and pacific command add 100,000 dollars to train Vietnamese
military officers to be proficient in English.

The searches were certainly a good educational experience because now I know
why the so called South Vietnamese regime lost the war despite massive U.S's
support. I know why the so called exile Vietnam regime has litte success in
their 30 years quest to bring about democratic changes to Vietnam. Because
they use these stupid methods that shot themselves in the foot and turn the
Vietnamese people against them. I ask myself what sort of people would want
to cut off aids for their country to become more capitalist? Would such
people's ideology similar to the control economy of communist's ideology?
What sort people would want to cut off aids to people with HIV,orphan,
victim of landmine, and flood? Would these people do anything to advance
their political causes at a heavy expense of their own people? I would best
call these people and such legislation of congress are anything, but human
rights and democratic. Instead, I would call them not only pity, but wrong
and evil.