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Live onboard Zuiderdam -- "Friends of Dorothy" party request DENIED!!
Hey folks...I'm writing live onboard the Holland America Line Zuiderdam. We
are at sea today (having not been able to tender at Half Moon Cay). This morning I wrote a nice note to the Cruise Director Pete (can't remember last name....) requesting a Friends of Dorothy party to be scheduled for tomorrow, which is also a sea day. Pete was kind enough to leave me a voice mail letting me know that, per Holland America corporate policy in Seattle (my paraphrase) about 6-7 weeks ago they can no longer host and publicize such gatherings. He said he would be happy to put such a party together in a public room, but they could not put it in the daily bulletin! At this moment....I am damn angry! Which I certainly don't need on my long awaited vacation. At great splurgy expense to myself I have booked as a solo in a Cat S suite....not exactly chump change! But this is absolutely my 2nd and last Holland America cruise unless this policy is changed asap! I can't believe in this day and age such a policy would exist. I think in today's program, for example, they've had meetings for people who like to play bridge, and for veterans. So what is the big deal -- we are but yet another group of people who have some common interests. Isn't the cruise line's job to bring people together for an enjoyable vacation experience? I do want to be clear I do not harbor any ill will towards the CD...he was kind enough to respond to my note and was just relaying a corporate policy -- which he did not create -- to me. In any case, Pete said I could call him at various times this evening, but really why bother? The whole point is to get a room and have it in the daily program....it's not like I have some magic ability to "spread this by word of mouth", using his words....to every gay and lesbian passenger on the ship. I don't want to go around making presumptions about people right? Holland America -- wake up!! Jeff Coudriet -- taking my $$ back to Celebrity which has never turned down my request to host such a party. |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:13:24 -0600, jcoulter wrote:
Unfortunately the storm clouds are gathering. This mornings paper reported on the unlikely and unholy alliance of Baptists and Catholics to stomp out the spector of GASP! "homosexual marriage." Cats and dogs sleeping together..... |
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jcoulter wrote:
ojunk (JEFFCOUD) wrote in : Holland America -- wake up!! Jeff Coudriet -- taking my $$ back to Celebrity which has never turned down my request to host such a party. Unfortunately the storm clouds are gathering. This mornings paper reported on the unlikely and unholy alliance of Baptists and Catholics to stomp out the spector of GASP! "homosexual marriage." Life as we knew it is changing and in no time the dread dark ages of not so long ago may be viewed as the golden age! Good luck with Holland (which never struck me as terribly uptight since the only ones who knew what went on in the disco were the crew and the 5-10 pax that stayed up that late.) What the hell does that have to do with her question? Why drag that into it? Her question is a legitimate one with a genuine concern whereas the issue you bring up (homosexuals) is a 100% political/religious one. You shouldn't be ramming it down peoples throats . . . .pardon the pun. |
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Mike wrote in :
jcoulter wrote: ojunk (JEFFCOUD) wrote in What the hell does that have to do with her question? Why drag that into it? Her question is a legitimate one with a genuine concern whereas the issue you bring up (homosexuals) is a 100% political/religious one. You shouldn't be ramming it down peoples throats . . . .pardon the pun. A. Friends of Dorothy are gay B. Jeff is usually not a female name. C. Treatment of homosexuals in society as a whole is a related idea. |
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Mike wrote in :
jcoulter wrote: ojunk (JEFFCOUD) wrote in What the hell does that have to do with her question? Why drag that into it? Her question is a legitimate one with a genuine concern whereas the issue you bring up (homosexuals) is a 100% political/religious one. You shouldn't be ramming it down peoples throats . . . .pardon the pun. A. Friends of Dorothy are gay B. Jeff is usually not a female name. C. Treatment of homosexuals in society as a whole is a related idea. |
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jcoulter wrote:
ojunk (JEFFCOUD) wrote in : Holland America -- wake up!! Jeff Coudriet -- taking my $$ back to Celebrity which has never turned down my request to host such a party. Unfortunately the storm clouds are gathering. This mornings paper reported on the unlikely and unholy alliance of Baptists and Catholics to stomp out the spector of GASP! "homosexual marriage." Life as we knew it is changing and in no time the dread dark ages of not so long ago may be viewed as the golden age! Good luck with Holland (which never struck me as terribly uptight since the only ones who knew what went on in the disco were the crew and the 5-10 pax that stayed up that late.) What the hell does that have to do with her question? Why drag that into it? Her question is a legitimate one with a genuine concern whereas the issue you bring up (homosexuals) is a 100% political/religious one. You shouldn't be ramming it down peoples throats . . . .pardon the pun. |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:13:24 -0600, jcoulter wrote:
Unfortunately the storm clouds are gathering. This mornings paper reported on the unlikely and unholy alliance of Baptists and Catholics to stomp out the spector of GASP! "homosexual marriage." Cats and dogs sleeping together..... |
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Not the only cruise line doing this . . . I work for another line and the
"FOD" meetings are no longer being advertised in the daily planner per corporate guidelines in the interest of a consistent "brand quality" across the fleet. This is much to the chagrin of CD's who are FOD and enforced by shoreside personell who are also FOD, by the way. I see it more of a corporate PC move as opposed to singling out a group, like minimizing 'holidays'. There's always the RSVP or Atlantis charter route. |
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