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Old July 24th, 2015, 09:51 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"Surreyman" wrote in message
On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 11:38:18 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:45:01 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:07:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 8:25:04 PM UTC+1, tim..... wrote:
"Tom P" wrote in message
On 07/16/2015 10:01 PM, tim..... wrote:

because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will
you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that
do will
lose out


But why should the ones who do use the bus pass be better of than
the ones
that don't

because OAPs who use the bus pass tends to based upon need.

And the current system makes them better off at no cost to the
people who
choose not to use their pass

or can't get on a bus? What about pensioners who are too disabled
to get on
a bus at all?

That's a different problem

Like I say, the system is discriminatory

In what way?

and wasteful.

just like all social benefits, if it doesn't match your political
view of
"need" it can be shown to be wasteful.


I've just seen that, at 65+, I'm about to get free entry into
Pompeii, Herculaneum etc. next month. Well done Italy!

but somebody employed by the mafia will still charge you EURO 5 or
more to protect
your car in the car park.

Cheapy train ticket from Sorrento. :-))

Very cunning!

Pick pockets at the station? :-)

Martin in Zuid Holland

Since I got done for the first time ever in Malaga a few years ago (and
never ever in the Morocco/Jordan swathe of over 50 years of travels) my
body has become inviolate (for pickpocketing, anyway!).
For any interested, a day pass on the Sorrento/Naples circuit railway is a
few Euros and entry into Pompeii, Herculaneum etc. is free for 65+. That
saves a couple some 100 Euros over the local day trips and thus provides
for a couple of splendid meals!

the web site says over 65s half price

and at 22 euro for a combined ticket I can't get the saving above 44 Euro


Old July 29th, 2015, 08:08 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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I tried to use my all England bus pass in Scotland and was laughed at. Is this what the United Kingdom is coming to ?
Old July 29th, 2015, 11:11 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On 7/29/2015 3:08 AM, estupendo wrote:
I tried to use my all England bus pass in Scotland and was laughed at. Is this what the United Kingdom is coming to ?

If it's an 'all England' bus pass, why would you think it should be
valid in Scotland?
Old August 7th, 2015, 12:47 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Jack Campin wrote:
...a member of an EU state, and have ID to prove it,
you can travel free on public transport in Budapest.

Just back from there. Worked great. Also got me free rides on
the scheduled city river boat, and train trips to Pecs and back
for the cost of the seat reservations. The only transport I had
to pay for was the children's railway in the Buda Hills.

One slight glitch: the checkers on the metro stand rather close
to the top of the escalators. After being waved through, you
don't have much time to get your passport back in your pocket
before you're on your way down. I worried about dropping it into
the guts of the escalator machinery. (Many of the escalators at
the big stations are unusually fast, you need to get your balance
before stepping on one).

BTW does Hungary have ANY fire regulations for tourist accommodation?
Otherwise well-constructed and well-restored places seemed like total
deathtraps. You could easily get stuck the wrong side of a very strong
door with no emergency override on a complex lock and not a single
extinguisher to help.

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Old August 10th, 2015, 04:08 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Jack Campin wrote:

...a member of an EU state, and have ID to prove it,
you can travel free on public transport in Budapest.

In Denmark in 2003 you used to get a reduced fare (50% ?) on public
transport, and free or reduced entrance to museums and sites.

In Italy one can apply for a reduced fare on public transport, depending
on the place, based on age and income. For instance anybody over 65 can
get unlimited PT in entire Lombardy for 699 eur/year (vs more than 1000
eur for anybody else, but disabled which pay 80 or 10 eur/year according
to disability irrespective of age but with some income limitation). In
Milan the yearly PT card for aged people is 300 eur/year instead of 330
(but 200 if one is over 65 and has a "normalized income" between 16000
and 20000 eur, and 10 eur for 4 years if the income is below 16000 per

On the other way Prime Minister Renzi has suppressed the free entrance
to state museums for aged people to give it to youngsters between 18 and

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