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Jim Again... wrote: As you all know by now, Mr Neil Watson's Website was hijacked (Hacked). This Website is now registered in the U.S. Here is the new Web Address : Interestingly the site moved hosts on the 26th of this week. |
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Jim Again... wrote: As you all know by now, Mr Neil Watson's Website was hijacked (Hacked). This Website is now registered in the U.S. Here is the new Web Address : http://www.crimexposouthafrica.org. Sad but true. It's when web sites start claiming to tell the "truth" about SA that I start getting suspicious. Africancrisis.org, censorbugbear.com, africathetruth.com etc all claim to tell the "truth" but their original content is totally unsubstantiable and usually deeply racist. |
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Bob, you hit the nail on the head. These sites are repulsive.
On 27 Jul 2006 20:21:39 -0700, "Bob Dubery" wrote: It's when web sites start claiming to tell the "truth" about SA that I start getting suspicious. Africancrisis.org, censorbugbear.com, africathetruth.com etc all claim to tell the "truth" but their original content is totally unsubstantiable and usually deeply racist. |
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The following is an extract from News24.com which I think explains a
lot about farm killings: QUOTE 'I want a white policeman' 26/07/2006 11:07 - (SA) Johannesburg - Farmers in Mpumalanga should work with policemen, regardless of their colour, to stop farm killings in the province, police said on Tuesday evening. A few incidents of black officers being chased away by farmers when trying to investigate the crimes had been reported, said Superintendent Botsotso Moukangwe of the Middelburg serious and violent crimes unit. "Last week some farmers told black officers sent to Marble Hall and Volkrust that they wanted white policemen and chased them away, despite identifying themselves," said Moukangwe. The farmers refused to speak to the officers, saying they were "waiting for white policemen". He said the farmers only spoke to police after he sent a white officer. "Unfortunately we do not have a thousand white policemen to investigate these cases as they would prefer. "They should just learn to work with every police officer to fight the crimes," Moukangwe said, adding that not all blacks attacked farmers. He said it had become common there for officers to be chased away in that fashion. "About seven" people have been arrested in connection with a number of farm attacks in different parts of Mpumalanga, Captain Leonard Hlathi said earlier. More arrests are expected, he said. END QUOTE If I were a black policeman (or perhaps, a farm employee on one of these farms) I might feel little inclination to resist the temptation to attack one of these farmers. I'm not, for one second, condoning ANY farm attack. I'm simply explaining them. The hysteria around farm killings, and the sites that propagate this hysteria are largely racially motivated. Marc On 27 Jul 2006 20:21:39 -0700, "Bob Dubery" wrote: It's when web sites start claiming to tell the "truth" about SA that I start getting suspicious. Africancrisis.org, censorbugbear.com, africathetruth.com etc all claim to tell the "truth" but their original content is totally unsubstantiable and usually deeply racist. |
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Sorry to re-hash a year-old thread, but it looks like the nutcase Mr.
Watson is at it again, this time pretending to be a Bloemfontein rent-boy called Skye and "exposing" his client lists including sportsmen, politicians, entertainers and a clergyman. If the "Skye" blog is indeed the work of Watson/Thompson/Uys, then I'm afraid it kinda puts a bit of a question as to the intergity of the Crimexposouthafrica site. Marc On 18 Jul 2006 16:27:59 -0700, "Jim Again..." wrote: Dear Reader Here are the links to those much-talked-about Crime Reporting Websites : http://www.crimexposouthafrica.co.za http://www.southafricaiscrap.blogspot.com http://deathofjohannesburg.blogspot.com Sad, but true ! Greetings Jim |
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"Marc Lurie" wrote in message ... Sorry to re-hash a year-old thread, but it looks like the nutcase Mr. Watson is at it again, this time pretending to be a Bloemfontein rent-boy called Skye and "exposing" his client lists including sportsmen, politicians, entertainers and a clergyman. This kind of attitude mr. Lurie, is exactly what South Africans do not need in their stuggle against crime! Shame on you!! Corné. www.amukela.com |
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Corne, I'm really confused by your post. What "kind of attitude" was I
displaying? Someone on this NG posted links to Watson's crackpot website a while back. I was flamed for doubting the legitimacy of the website. It now transpires that Watson is quite clearly a nutcase, and I would think that any rational person should never rely on anything coming from Watson to be the truth. Just because Watsons CESA website contained SOME truths, it must still be viewed as the work of a very sick person. I have no doubt that many of Hitlers speeches contained SOME truths, but one can hardly say that Hitlers policies were therefore valid. By the way, Watsons racism and hate speech (not to mention his attempted extortion in the "Skye" blog) are criminal acts in themselves, and as such, he's actually CONTRIBUTED to crime. Corne, you're not an idiot. You're in the tourism trade and you know that you contribute to the country. How on earth will Watsons call to embargo tourism in SA help lower the crime levels? If anything, crime and poverty will INCREASE if we don't get tourists. When last did you advise one of your clients NOT to come here? When last did you tell one of your clients that she WILL get killed or raped if they come here? This is what Watson was suggesting was needed to stop crime. You know my feelings about crime. I despise crime in all forms, and I would love nothing better than to see crime wiped out in my country, so I'm not to sure what "kind of attitude" I have that makes you think differently, or are you just being pugnacious? Marc. BTW, I still haven't received the letter from your lawyer. Perhaps you need a more efficient lawyer ;-0 On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:40:06 +0200, Corné wrote: "Marc Lurie" wrote in message .. . Sorry to re-hash a year-old thread, but it looks like the nutcase Mr. Watson is at it again, this time pretending to be a Bloemfontein rent-boy called Skye and "exposing" his client lists including sportsmen, politicians, entertainers and a clergyman. This kind of attitude mr. Lurie, is exactly what South Africans do not need in their stuggle against crime! Shame on you!! Corné. www.amukela.com |
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"Marc Lurie" wrote in message ... Corne, I'm really confused by your post. What "kind of attitude" was I displaying? Arrogancy against all victims of crime in SA? Corne, you're not an idiot. You're in the tourism trade and you know that you contribute to the country. How on earth will Watsons call to embargo tourism in SA help lower the crime levels? If anything, crime and poverty will INCREASE if we don't get tourists. I didn't see Watsons call, just Jim's post with 3 hyperlinks. You know my feelings about crime. I despise crime in all forms, and I would love nothing better than to see crime wiped out in my country, so I'm not to sure what "kind of attitude" I have that makes you think differently, or are you just being pugnacious? I just got the impression that you are one of those guys who cannot stand any criticisme about SA. BTW, I still haven't received the letter from your lawyer. Perhaps you need a more efficient lawyer ;-0 Excuse me... ? Missing the point here. Well Marc, we do agree that we both despise crime but the ways how to achieve that differs apparantly. See my website about crime. Best regards, no hard feelings! Corné. www.amukela.com |
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:42:55 +0200, Corné
wrote: Arrogancy against all victims of crime in SA? I fail to see how I exhibit arrogance towards all victims of crime by questioning the integrity of a man who appears to be deeply disturbed. If you've read the news recently, a man walked into the Pretoria News offices and held 8 staff hostages at gunpoint, threatening to kill them. He claims he did it because he was sick and tired of crime. Now, if you think that me criticising the man shows arrogance towards victims of crime, then you really need to re-evaluate your value system. I'm also sick and tired of crime, but I don't protest against it by breaking the law, by taking hostages, or by setting up racist and inflamatory websites. I didn't see Watsons call, just Jim's post with 3 hyperlinks. So, in other words, you argued with me about a website that you didn't even look at??? I just got the impression that you are one of those guys who cannot stand any criticisme about SA. I absolutely WELCOME and INVITE criticism of South Africa, but only as long as it is constructive criticism. Criticism, if it is intended to point out weaknesses and IMPROVE the country is vital. Criticism, if it is intended to sow discord, spread dangerous and dishonest rumours, and DAMAGE the country, is abhorent and should be countered. BTW, I still haven't received the letter from your lawyer. Perhaps you need a more efficient lawyer ;-0 Excuse me... ? Missing the point here. You asked me for my address a while back so that you could get sue me for defamation. I posted my address, but I've never been sued. Do you actually intend sueing or not? Well Marc, we do agree that we both despise crime but the ways how to achieve that differs apparantly. See my website about crime. I fail to see how you can say that you despise crime, but in previous posts to this NG you effectively sanction the paying of bribes to officials. Best regards, no hard feelings! It is difficult not to harbour hard feelings against someone who has threatened to sue you. Marc |
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Best regards, no hard feelings! It is difficult not to harbour hard feelings against someone who has threatened to sue you. Try Marc, try! If we can make the difference... Regards, Corné. www.amukela.com |
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