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Can We Coexist With The Left?



 
 
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Old May 17th, 2010, 08:23 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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On Mon, 17 May 2010 08:13:21 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, Ron
Peterson , wrote

Most wars were begun by Democrats. WW1&2, Korea, Vietnam, Serbia.


Wars have multiple causes and Woodrow Wilson wouldn't be a Democrat
today.


The bit about Wilson. Ridiculous. The modern Democrat party is *exactly*
where he would alight.

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Old May 17th, 2010, 09:41 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
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Can We Coexist With The Left?
Sun, 2010-05-09 08:59

"The American writer Lawrence Auster had a debate with his readers
regarding the possibility of splitting the USA along ideological
lines. According to reader Tim W, modern Left liberalism is a
universal totalitarian ideology, not a “live and let live” concept.
The goal of its adherents is a world government from which no one can
escape. Leftists “need conservatives but conservatives don’t need
leftists. To be blunt, they can’t let us go. We’d be happy to be rid
of them, because to us they’re nothing but parasites and/or
oppressors. But they can’t get rid of us because we do most of the
work, pay most of the taxes, provide the stability and morality that
allow their depravity to thrive with less damaging results.
Furthermore, the white conservative population is the buffer
protecting white liberals from the minorities....”

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# If the Death of Ideology occurred with Fall of the Berlin Wall (and
arrival of Utopian Capitalism?) then the crudities of Western pragmatism are
most evident in USA, where sound-bites, slogans, and symbolism, pass for
rational political debate.
"The Left" is reduced to anybody who disagrees with Me, as I am Right,
and am a hard-working, freedom-loving, individual - as compared to all you
parasitic layabouts with totalitarian tendencies.
So, folks, if you want sensible debate, don't look to USA, to whom
"change" is anathema. After all, if you already live in Utopia, hint of
Change is Heresy.
When a US Spokesman starts of actually DEFINE what is "Left", then we may
get somewhere. Until then, Liberals, Pinkos, Commies, and Beatniks, are
all tarred with the same brush. Ducks quacking.


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Old May 18th, 2010, 12:09 AM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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On May 17, 6:24*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
Can We Coexist With The Left?
Sun, 2010-05-09 08:59

"The American writer Lawrence Auster had a debate with his readers
regarding the possibility of splitting the USA along ideological
lines. According to reader Tim W, modern Left liberalism is a
universal totalitarian ideology, not a “live and let live” concept.
The goal of its adherents is a world government from which no one can
escape. Leftists “need conservatives but conservatives don’t need
leftists. To be blunt, they can’t let us go. We’d be happy to be rid
of them, because to us they’re nothing but parasites and/or
oppressors. But they can’t get rid of us because we do most of the
work, pay most of the taxes, provide the stability and morality that
allow their depravity to thrive with less damaging results.
Furthermore, the white conservative population is the buffer
protecting white liberals from the minorities....”

Continue reading:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z137c10


Response (in part) from areader of the article

Submitted by Thomas F. Bertonneau on Tue, 2010-05-11 08:28.

"Yes, the search for scapegoats never ends – “ad infinitum” is
scapegoat logic, as exemplified in the fratricidal history of Chinese
Communism or the Lenin-Stalin variety of the same. Karl Marx, for his
part, spent the last twenty years of his life in “purifying” his
Communist International – bequeathing, in the process, a hair-
splitting vocabulary of “deviationism” that is still in use on the
Left. All histories of the Soviet Union comment on the identical
“scholastic” ferocity. Intimations of the same process are already on
view in American politics in the “disappointment” of the hard-Left
over Obama’s failure to bring the troops home from Iraq and
Afghanistan and to close the POW camp at Guantanamo Bay....."
 




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