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Old April 27th, 2010, 02:45 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Mitchell Holman[_3_]
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

"Doug" wrote in
:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
GLOBALIST wrote:
On Apr 27, 5:27 am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop
and Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010

"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration
status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new
telephone survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a
law, while 31% are opposed...."

source:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/117c4zEvleths

How many of us can prove our citizenship, if a cop asked us?


Same as in the UK, passport.


How many
white folks will be pulled over?


None...



--
William Black


Lieberal retard. I have a friend in law enforcement who states that
the vast majority of unlicensed (and thus uninsured) motorists happen
to be hispanic/latino. 90% of the most wanted in his police
jurisdiction are also hispanic/latino and most are presumed to have
fled the jurisdiction of the USA for S. America and/or Mexico.
Something like 90% of the gang members in Southern California are
black and/or hispanic/latino. The fact is retard, that racial
profiling works.



THE STORIES, THE STATISTICS, AND THE LAW:
WHY "DRIVING WHILE BLACK" MATTERS

84 Minnesota Law Review 265-326 (1999)


It has happened to actors Wesley Snipes, Will Smith, Blair
Underwood, and LeVar Burton. It has also happened to football
player Marcus Allen, and Olympic athletes Al Joyner and Edwin
Moses. African-Americans call it "driving while black"--police
officers stopping, questioning, and even searching black
drivers who have committed no crime, based on the excuse of
a traffic offense. And it has even happened to O.J. Simpson
lawyer Johnnie Cochran.

In his pre-Simpson days, Cochran worked hand-in-hand with
police officers as an Assistant District Attorney in Los
Angeles, putting criminals behind bars. Cochran was driving
down Sunset Boulevard one Saturday afternoon with his two
youngest children in the back seat when a police car stopped
him. Looking in his rearview mirror, Cochran got a frightening
shock: "the police were out of their car with their guns out."
The officers said that they thought Cochran was driving a
stolen car, and with no legal basis they began to search it.
But instead of finding evidence, they found Cochran's official
badge, identifying him as an Assistant District Attorney.
"When they saw my badge, they ran for cover," Cochran said.

The incident unnerved Cochran, but it terrified his young
children. "[The officers] had their guns out and my kids were
in that car crying. My daughter said, 'Daddy, I thought you
were with the police.' I had to explain to her why this
happened."

Cochran's experience is a textbook example of what many
African-American drivers say they go through every day:
police using traffic offenses as an excuse to stop and
conduct roadside investigations of black drivers and their
cars, usually to look for drugs.

Pretextual traffic stops aggravate years of accumulated
feelings of injustice, resulting in deepening distrust and
cynicism by African-Americans about police and the entire
criminal justice system. But the problem goes deeper. If
upstanding citizens are treated like criminals by the police,
they will not trust those same officers as investigators of
crimes or as witnesses in court. Fewer people will trust the
police enough to tell them what they know about criminals in
their neighborhoods, and some may not vote to convict the
guilty in court when they are jurors. Recent polling data
show that not just blacks, but a majority of whites believe
that blacks face racism at the hands of police. "Driving
while black" has begun to threaten the integrity of the
entire process not only in the eyes of African-Americans,
but of everyone.

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/03justice/dwb01.htm













  #12  
Old April 27th, 2010, 02:49 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
John Rennie
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local PoliceStop and Verify Immigration Status

JNugent wrote:
William Black wrote:

JNugent wrote:
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:


Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and
Verify Immigration Status


Monday, April 26, 2010
"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new telephone
survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law,


I expect it will involve the power to stop anyone with (for instnce)
a British accent to check for VWP overstaying. I wouldn't object to
that.


You're not suggesting that anyone white will have their permission to
stay in the USA questioned because of this silly law are you?


I have no way of knowing what will happen. I live 5,000+ miles away.

But overstaying on visas and visa-waivers is (I understand) a problem
for the American authorities. And as we have all become aware, illicit
immigration via land-crossing from Mexico is (probably) a bigger one.

America is *entitled* to take steps to address these problems, surely?

BTW: Do only white people have British accents?


What's a British accent?
  #13  
Old April 27th, 2010, 02:54 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
John Rennie
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local PoliceStop and Verify Immigration Status

Doug wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message
...
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:
Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and
Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010

"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

Right up until people start getting stopped for being
brown/black/yellow/red...

At which point everyone will throw up their hands in horror and say 'that
isn't what I meant'

It's a law that racist cops will use to harass the innocent.


YOu don't think non-white cops and/or judges harrass whitey in a similar
manner?
Gawd you're naive.

I was cited for driving without insurance once. The rest of the defendants
who
were charged with the same offense were hispanic/latino. The hispanic/latino
judge gave all of them one punishment and me a different, unique punishment.


They were all sent to prison and you were fined?
  #14  
Old April 27th, 2010, 02:58 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
JNugent[_2_]
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local PoliceStop and Verify Immigration Status

John Rennie wrote:
JNugent wrote:
William Black wrote:

JNugent wrote:
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:


Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and
Verify Immigration Status


Monday, April 26, 2010
"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new telephone
survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law,


I expect it will involve the power to stop anyone with (for instnce)
a British accent to check for VWP overstaying. I wouldn't object to
that.


You're not suggesting that anyone white will have their permission to
stay in the USA questioned because of this silly law are you?


I have no way of knowing what will happen. I live 5,000+ miles away.

But overstaying on visas and visa-waivers is (I understand) a problem
for the American authorities. And as we have all become aware, illicit
immigration via land-crossing from Mexico is (probably) a bigger one.

America is *entitled* to take steps to address these problems, surely?

BTW: Do only white people have British accents?


What's a British accent?


Don't trouble yourself wondering about it.
  #15  
Old April 27th, 2010, 03:06 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
John Rennie
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Posts: 610
Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local PoliceStop and Verify Immigration Status

JNugent wrote:
John Rennie wrote:
JNugent wrote:
William Black wrote:

JNugent wrote:
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:

Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop
and
Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010
"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration
status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new
telephone
survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law,

I expect it will involve the power to stop anyone with (for
instnce) a British accent to check for VWP overstaying. I wouldn't
object to that.

You're not suggesting that anyone white will have their permission
to stay in the USA questioned because of this silly law are you?

I have no way of knowing what will happen. I live 5,000+ miles away.

But overstaying on visas and visa-waivers is (I understand) a problem
for the American authorities. And as we have all become aware,
illicit immigration via land-crossing from Mexico is (probably) a
bigger one.

America is *entitled* to take steps to address these problems, surely?

BTW: Do only white people have British accents?


What's a British accent?


Don't trouble yourself wondering about it.


As it doesn't exist I won't.
  #16  
Old April 27th, 2010, 03:17 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Doug[_5_]
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
. 130...
"Doug" wrote in
:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
GLOBALIST wrote:
On Apr 27, 5:27 am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop
and Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010

"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration
status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new
telephone survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a
law, while 31% are opposed...."

source:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/117c4zEvleths

How many of us can prove our citizenship, if a cop asked us?

Same as in the UK, passport.


How many
white folks will be pulled over?

None...



--
William Black


Lieberal retard. I have a friend in law enforcement who states that
the vast majority of unlicensed (and thus uninsured) motorists happen
to be hispanic/latino. 90% of the most wanted in his police
jurisdiction are also hispanic/latino and most are presumed to have
fled the jurisdiction of the USA for S. America and/or Mexico.
Something like 90% of the gang members in Southern California are
black and/or hispanic/latino. The fact is retard, that racial
profiling works.



THE STORIES, THE STATISTICS, AND THE LAW:
WHY "DRIVING WHILE BLACK" MATTERS

84 Minnesota Law Review 265-326 (1999)


It has happened to actors Wesley Snipes, Will Smith, Blair
Underwood, and LeVar Burton. It has also happened to football
player Marcus Allen, and Olympic athletes Al Joyner and Edwin
Moses. African-Americans call it "driving while black"--police
officers stopping, questioning, and even searching black
drivers who have committed no crime, based on the excuse of
a traffic offense. And it has even happened to O.J. Simpson
lawyer Johnnie Cochran.


I'm not seeing any statistics, only hype.

In his pre-Simpson days, Cochran worked hand-in-hand with
police officers as an Assistant District Attorney in Los
Angeles, putting criminals behind bars. Cochran was driving
down Sunset Boulevard one Saturday afternoon with his two
youngest children in the back seat when a police car stopped
him. Looking in his rearview mirror, Cochran got a frightening
shock: "the police were out of their car with their guns out."
The officers said that they thought Cochran was driving a
stolen car, and with no legal basis they began to search it.
But instead of finding evidence, they found Cochran's official
badge, identifying him as an Assistant District Attorney.
"When they saw my badge, they ran for cover," Cochran said.


I'm not seeing any statistics, only hype.

The incident unnerved Cochran, but it terrified his young
children. "[The officers] had their guns out and my kids were
in that car crying. My daughter said, 'Daddy, I thought you
were with the police.' I had to explain to her why this
happened."


I'm not seeing any statistics, only hype.

Cochran's experience is a textbook example of what many
African-American drivers say they go through every day:
police using traffic offenses as an excuse to stop and
conduct roadside investigations of black drivers and their
cars, usually to look for drugs.


I'm not seeing any statistics, only hype.

Pretextual traffic stops aggravate years of accumulated
feelings of injustice, resulting in deepening distrust and
cynicism by African-Americans about police and the entire
criminal justice system. But the problem goes deeper. If
upstanding citizens are treated like criminals by the police,
they will not trust those same officers as investigators of
crimes or as witnesses in court. Fewer people will trust the
police enough to tell them what they know about criminals in
their neighborhoods, and some may not vote to convict the
guilty in court when they are jurors. Recent polling data
show that not just blacks, but a majority of whites believe
that blacks face racism at the hands of police. "Driving
while black" has begun to threaten the integrity of the
entire process not only in the eyes of African-Americans,
but of everyone.

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/03justice/dwb01.htm


No statistics, nothing but hype.

The facts are that whitey is much more likely to be the
victim of race-based hate crimes in the USA then ANY
OTHER RACIAL group. Oh, and affirmative action
is nothing more than legalized, anti-white racism.


  #17  
Old April 27th, 2010, 03:50 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
JNugent[_2_]
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local PoliceStop and Verify Immigration Status

John Rennie wrote:
JNugent wrote:
John Rennie wrote:
JNugent wrote:
William Black wrote:

JNugent wrote:
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:

Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police
Stop and
Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010
"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration
status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new
telephone
survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law,

I expect it will involve the power to stop anyone with (for
instnce) a British accent to check for VWP overstaying. I wouldn't
object to that.

You're not suggesting that anyone white will have their permission
to stay in the USA questioned because of this silly law are you?

I have no way of knowing what will happen. I live 5,000+ miles away.

But overstaying on visas and visa-waivers is (I understand) a
problem for the American authorities. And as we have all become
aware, illicit immigration via land-crossing from Mexico is
(probably) a bigger one.

America is *entitled* to take steps to address these problems, surely?

BTW: Do only white people have British accents?

What's a British accent?


Don't trouble yourself wondering about it.


As it doesn't exist I won't.


"It"?
  #18  
Old April 27th, 2010, 04:34 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Doug[_5_]
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

"John Rennie" wrote in message
...
Doug wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message
...
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:
Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and
Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010

"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.
Right up until people start getting stopped for being
brown/black/yellow/red...

At which point everyone will throw up their hands in horror and say
'that isn't what I meant'

It's a law that racist cops will use to harass the innocent.


YOu don't think non-white cops and/or judges harrass whitey in a similar
manner?
Gawd you're naive.

I was cited for driving without insurance once. The rest of the
defendants who
were charged with the same offense were hispanic/latino. The
hispanic/latino
judge gave all of them one punishment and me a different, unique
punishment.


They were all sent to prison and you were fined?


LOL. I had no insurance on my motorcycle, I was fined $1300, the rest
of the defendants, ALL OF THEM, weren't fined a dime asshole. ESAD.


  #19  
Old April 27th, 2010, 04:36 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Doug[_5_]
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Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

"William Black" wrote in message
...
JNugent wrote:
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:

Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and
Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010

"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new telephone
survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law,


I expect it will involve the power to stop anyone with (for instnce) a
British accent to check for VWP overstaying. I wouldn't object to that.


You're not suggesting that anyone white will have their permission to stay
in the USA questioned because of this silly law are you?


You're not suggesting that they won't are you?


--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single
handed with a quarterstaff.



  #20  
Old April 27th, 2010, 04:48 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
John Rennie
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Posts: 610
Default Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local PoliceStop and Verify Immigration Status

Doug wrote:
"John Rennie" wrote in message
...
Doug wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message
...
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:
Overwhelming Majority of Americans Favor Letting Local Police Stop and
Verify Immigration Status

Monday, April 26, 2010

"Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect
that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status
of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.
Right up until people start getting stopped for being
brown/black/yellow/red...

At which point everyone will throw up their hands in horror and say
'that isn't what I meant'

It's a law that racist cops will use to harass the innocent.

YOu don't think non-white cops and/or judges harrass whitey in a similar
manner?
Gawd you're naive.

I was cited for driving without insurance once. The rest of the
defendants who
were charged with the same offense were hispanic/latino. The
hispanic/latino
judge gave all of them one punishment and me a different, unique
punishment.

They were all sent to prison and you were fined?


LOL. I had no insurance on my motorcycle, I was fined $1300, the rest
of the defendants, ALL OF THEM, weren't fined a dime asshole. ESAD.


You were an uninsured driver so you deserved your fine.
Where did all these offences occur?
 




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