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Old September 30th, 2014, 04:16 AM posted to rec.travel.air
DevilsPGD[_4_]
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Default finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)

In the last episode of , John Levine
said:

But that's overly restrictive because it cuts out non-US connections,
which allow the sealed carry-on.


Remember that most US airports do not have customs facilities. If you
can't find a flight from London or Amsterdam or Frankfurt to a city,
you can be reasonably sure that there aren't any overseas flights to
it at all.

One possibility is to connect at an airport with US preclearance. I
know that in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, you go directly from an
incoming international flight to US customs. CATSA says they allow
duty free security bags but it's not clear whether they allow them
on US flights:

http://www.catsa.gc.ca/duty-free-purchases

If they don't, you have a problem, because they have an expedited baggage
system where you don't normally collect your bags when you connect, so you
can't easily stick them in your checked luggage.


If you're passing through customs, you can expect to retrieve your bags
and re-check them. The bags are classified as "checked through", but in
reality, you still touch your bag at one point as customs wants to have
you and your bags together if they decide to inspect you.

(Unless this has changed very recently -- I last did this type of
connection some months ago, but it definitely hasn't changed when you
enter into Canada and have a connecting flight)

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Old September 30th, 2014, 01:58 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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know that in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, you go directly from an
incoming international flight to US customs. CATSA says they allow
duty free security bags but it's not clear whether they allow them
on US flights: ...


If you're passing through customs, you can expect to retrieve your bags
and re-check them. ...

(Unless this has changed very recently --


It changed about a year ago. In Toronto and Montreal (not sure about
Vancouver yet), you go to a holding area, scan your boarding pass, and
wait until your name shows up on a screen which means they've located
your bags and taken a picture of them. Then you go through US
customs, where they show you the picture to check that they found the
right bag. Unless you are sent to secondary inspection, which rarely
happens, your bags stay down in the baggage area and you don't collect
them.

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Old September 30th, 2014, 09:06 PM posted to rec.travel.air
DevilsPGD[_4_]
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Default finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)

In the last episode of , John Levine
said:


know that in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, you go directly from an
incoming international flight to US customs. CATSA says they allow
duty free security bags but it's not clear whether they allow them
on US flights: ...


If you're passing through customs, you can expect to retrieve your bags
and re-check them. ...

(Unless this has changed very recently --


It changed about a year ago. In Toronto and Montreal (not sure about
Vancouver yet), you go to a holding area, scan your boarding pass, and
wait until your name shows up on a screen which means they've located
your bags and taken a picture of them. Then you go through US
customs, where they show you the picture to check that they found the
right bag. Unless you are sent to secondary inspection, which rarely
happens, your bags stay down in the baggage area and you don't collect
them.


Ahh nice. Very nice indeed. I shall have to try it the next time I'm
taking an appropriate flight, I'll definitely take alternate connections
if it makes the overall experience better.

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Old October 1st, 2014, 06:55 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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The US is about the worst place on the planet to find quality beer,
and when you find it it's nowhere near the price of water (unlike
other countries).


That used to be true.


It's still true.

Quality beer used to be virtually non-existent. My comment follows
the boom of the microbrews.. based on the fact that it's available at
a high price.

Now we have a gazillion microbreweries, many of which distribute in
supermarkets and liquor stores, and a lot of the beer is quite good.


Big US breweries lost 10% of the marketshare recently. It's a big
drop, but the US market is still saturated with poor quality beer.
The scarcity of microbrews is why Americans are paying extortionate
prices for quality beer; ~3-4 times that of comparable beers abroad
(where the *large* foreign breweries are cranking out huge volumes of
quality beer at a cheap price). In these superior markets, the price
difference between a microbrew and a mass produced beer is smaller
than that of the US.

Demand for good beer is finally increasing US, but don't expect the
market to improve. Big brewers lost market share so quickly that they
started buying up microbrews in a defensive maneuver. They will keep
some and label those beers their "premium" beer, and let the others
die.

ATM, it still makes sense for beer lovers to import beer to the US.

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Old October 1st, 2014, 10:08 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)


"Jack Ryan" wrote in message
nk.us...
The US is about the worst place on the planet to find quality beer,
and when you find it it's nowhere near the price of water (unlike
other countries).


That used to be true.


It's still true.

Quality beer used to be virtually non-existent. My comment follows
the boom of the microbrews.. based on the fact that it's available at
a high price.

Now we have a gazillion microbreweries, many of which distribute in
supermarkets and liquor stores, and a lot of the beer is quite good.


Big US breweries lost 10% of the marketshare recently. It's a big
drop, but the US market is still saturated with poor quality beer.
The scarcity of microbrews is why Americans are paying extortionate
prices for quality beer; ~3-4 times that of comparable beers abroad
(where the *large* foreign breweries are cranking out huge volumes of
quality beer at a cheap price). In these superior markets, the price
difference between a microbrew and a mass produced beer is smaller
than that of the US.

Demand for good beer is finally increasing US, but don't expect the
market to improve. Big brewers lost market share so quickly that they
started buying up microbrews in a defensive maneuver. They will keep
some and label those beers their "premium" beer, and let the others
die.

ATM, it still makes sense for beer lovers to import beer to the US.

In Europe, many large Breweries are cranking out lots of inferior quality
beer at high prices.

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Old October 2nd, 2014, 09:04 PM posted to rec.travel.air
John Levine
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Big US breweries lost 10% of the marketshare recently. It's a big
drop, but the US market is still saturated with poor quality beer.


Perhaps this would be a good time to talk about France. 1664, anyone?
Naah.

R's,
John
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 10:00 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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In Europe, many large Breweries are cranking out lots of inferior
quality beer at high prices.


Please don't group Europeans together. Grouping Czech breweries with
Belgian breweries is stupid and insulting.

From an economic standpoint, it's naive to claim that the marketplace

tolarates relatively poor quality beer at relatively high prices.
Jupiler is dirt cheap. Substandard beer makers must compete with 0.75
eur/bottle. While quality beer comparable to St. Bernardus costs
upwards of 3-fold the Belgian cost, in the US. The US is not even
close to a point where beer imports can be considered uninteresting -
not by a long-shot.

 




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