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Cheap air travel within europe
I am from the United States, and my wife, child and myself, plan to
travel to Europe in June. I have most of my trip planned, except for the travel from Rome to Frankfurt. I have looked at the ryanair's very appealing price structure. However, I have also read that ryanair is not very dependable, which could be very troublesome for us. I seek advice, should I perhaps travel by train, consuming considerable amount of vacation time or should I consider the scenery I would miss. Certainly, I would like to balance cost, time spent traveling while enjoying the scenery and local culture. Could someone please give me pros and cons. Thank you. Joe |
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there is a low cost airline in Holland
there are 4 or 5 low cost airlines in germany even SAS has a low cost subsidiary ( Snowflakes) then there is a low cost in Slovakia. there is also virgin express. and a few more from england and ireland. as far as I hear. ryan air is relyable. "Joe" ha scritto nel messaggio om... I am from the United States, and my wife, child and myself, plan to travel to Europe in June. I have most of my trip planned, except for the travel from Rome to Frankfurt. I have looked at the ryanair's very appealing price structure. However, I have also read that ryanair is not very dependable, which could be very troublesome for us. I seek advice, should I perhaps travel by train, consuming considerable amount of vacation time or should I consider the scenery I would miss. Certainly, I would like to balance cost, time spent traveling while enjoying the scenery and local culture. Could someone please give me pros and cons. Thank you. Joe |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:32:19 +0000, bigbrian
wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:35:04 +0100, B wrote: [snip other stuff about Ryanair] Don't expect to be able to change anything about your ticket once you've bought it. You won't be allowed to switch to a different flight or modify the name of one of the passengers. Actually, you can do both. There's a fee (£10/€15 to change flights or £15/€25 to change the name. In both cases you also have to pay any difference between what you paid for your ticket at the time you bought it, and the current price of the flight you want to change to, (even if its just a change of name for the same flight) In general this makes changing anything almost as expensive as buying a new ticket. And Ryanair ticket prices tend to get very expensive near the day of departure. If I buy a 15 GBP ticket from Ryanair and have to change a flight near the day of departure, when the price has gone to 150 GBP, then the change will cost me (150 - 15) + 10/15, OR 145/150 GBP. ----------- Barbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup |
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Remember that the trains in Europe do travel at a fairly fast speed
Local trains up to 100kms/hr Intercity trains up to 160Kms/hr and the high speed ones go 300Kms/hr You can spenmd an awful amount of time getting to and from airoports which can be weighed against the slower travel portion Also you see a lot of the countrside whilst in the trains. Rome to Paris is High speed Paris to Frankfurt you can go via the "Thalys" red highspeed train through Belgium or use the ICE through Strasbourg or ICE through Mannheim Paris to Frankfurt using the ordinary train takes about 8 hrs from memory. Freda -- Please reply to the list as my email address is a fake "Joe" wrote in message om... I am from the United States, and my wife, child and myself, plan to travel to Europe in June. I have most of my trip planned, except for the travel from Rome to Frankfurt. I have looked at the ryanair's very appealing price structure. However, I have also read that ryanair is not very dependable, which could be very troublesome for us. I seek advice, should I perhaps travel by train, consuming considerable amount of vacation time or should I consider the scenery I would miss. Certainly, I would like to balance cost, time spent traveling while enjoying the scenery and local culture. Could someone please give me pros and cons. Thank you. Joe |
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(Joe) writes: I am from the United States, and my wife, child and myself, plan to travel to Europe in June. I have most of my trip planned, except for the travel from Rome to Frankfurt. I have looked at the ryanair's very appealing price structure. However, I have also read that ryanair is not very dependable, which could be very troublesome for us. I seek advice, should I perhaps travel by train, consuming considerable amount of vacation time or should I consider the scenery I would miss. Certainly, I would like to balance cost, time spent traveling while enjoying the scenery and local culture. Could someone please give me pros and cons. Thank you. Joe I flown with Ryanair several times (6) to and from "Frankfurt". (Once to Rome.) I've never had any problems with them, but as others have said, they allow no changes on any tickets, do not guarantee connections, and don't provide any "extras" (like snack, drinks, or assigned seats). I did have a problem in Gothenborg when the plan couldn't land due to fog, but they bussed us to another airport further inland where the incoming plane had landed. Other than a long delay, everything was fine. One thing to be wary of is that they have a small baggage allowance (1 piece checked, 15 kgs and 1 piece carry-on, 7 kgs). They also don't fly to the "normal" Rome or Frankfurt airports. In the case of Rome, they fly to Ciampino, which is a ~30 min bus ride to Termini. The bus is timed to coincide with flights and costs (IIRC, Feb 2003) EUR 8. In Frankfurt, they fly to Hahn which is a 1 hour, 45 minute, EUR 12 ride from the main station. (Hence the quotes around Frankfurt above.) Keeping these in mind, my wife and I did elect to fly them as it's a long (14+ hours) and expensive (EUR 175) train ride. Also, check into Volareweb (http://www.volareweb.com) which flies Rome-Berlin, Milan-Berlin, or Venice-Frankfurt (also Hahn). Whatever you decide, enjoy your trip, Paul -- ++ A random selection of quotes ++ Science has to suffer when the know-nothings come traipsing through the laboratories, infecting the research with their religious beliefs and political ideologies. ++ Bob Hebert, NY Times Columnist on the targetting of peer-reviewed science by the Traditional Values Coalition ++ Paul Sanschagrin http://staff.uni-marburg.de/~sanschag sanschag@ COMBINE staff. THESE uni-marburg. LINES de |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:21:50 +0000 (UTC),
(Dr. Paul Sanschagrin) wrote: In article , (Joe) writes: I am from the United States, and my wife, child and myself, plan to travel to Europe in June. I have most of my trip planned, except for the travel from Rome to Frankfurt. I have looked at the ryanair's very appealing price structure. However, I have also read that ryanair is not very dependable, which could be very troublesome for us. I seek advice, should I perhaps travel by train, consuming considerable amount of vacation time or should I consider the scenery I would miss. Certainly, I would like to balance cost, time spent traveling while enjoying the scenery and local culture. Could someone please give me pros and cons. Thank you. Joe I flown with Ryanair several times (6) to and from "Frankfurt". (Once to Rome.) I've never had any problems with them, but as others have said, they allow no changes on any tickets, See my reply elewhere in the thread - they do Brian |
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I have just booked travel for 3 adults from Rome to Frankfurt (Hahn)
for 86 euros including taxes and service fees. This seems too good to be true. Is there a catch when the taxes are more than the flight itself? It just seems wrong. Also ryanair requires 2 hours prior to departure arrival at the airport. Is this also reasonable? If I have an 8:30 flight should I be at the airport at 6:30? Is the airport open that early? Thank you. Joe I flown with Ryanair several times (6) to and from "Frankfurt". (Once to Rome.) I've never had any problems with them, but as others have said, they allow no changes on any tickets, do not guarantee connections, and don't provide any "extras" (like snack, drinks, or assigned seats). I did have a problem in Gothenborg when the plan couldn't land due to fog, but they bussed us to another airport further inland where the incoming plane had landed. Other than a long delay, everything was fine. One thing to be wary of is that they have a small baggage allowance (1 piece checked, 15 kgs and 1 piece carry-on, 7 kgs). They also don't fly to the "normal" Rome or Frankfurt airports. In the case of Rome, they fly to Ciampino, which is a ~30 min bus ride to Termini. The bus is timed to coincide with flights and costs (IIRC, Feb 2003) EUR 8. In Frankfurt, they fly to Hahn which is a 1 hour, 45 minute, EUR 12 ride from the main station. (Hence the quotes around Frankfurt above.) Keeping these in mind, my wife and I did elect to fly them as it's a long (14+ hours) and expensive (EUR 175) train ride. Also, check into Volareweb (http://www.volareweb.com) which flies Rome-Berlin, Milan-Berlin, or Venice-Frankfurt (also Hahn). Whatever you decide, enjoy your trip, Paul -- ++ A random selection of quotes ++ Science has to suffer when the know-nothings come traipsing through the laboratories, infecting the research with their religious beliefs and political ideologies. ++ Bob Hebert, NY Times Columnist on the targetting of peer-reviewed science by the Traditional Values Coalition ++ Paul Sanschagrin http://staff.uni-marburg.de/~sanschag sanschag@ COMBINE staff. THESE uni-marburg. LINES de |
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"Joe" wrote
| I have just booked travel for 3 adults from Rome to Frankfurt | (Hahn) for 86 euros including taxes and service fees. | This seems too good to be true. Is there a catch when the | taxes are more than the flight itself? It just seems wrong. The 'catch' is that Ryanair are an absolutely no-frills airline. Typically with these, if the aircraft is stuck at the airport for three days that is where you will be too - forget hotel accommodation, transfer to another airline, or any form of cossetting. If you miss your flight, tough. If your flight is delayed and you miss a 'connection', tough. | Also ryanair requires 2 hours prior to departure arrival at the | airport. Is this also reasonable? It's what they demand. The low-cost airlines are pretty merciless; if you miss your check-in deadline you miss your flight and usually forfeit your ticket. | If I have an 8:30 flight should I be at the airport at 6:30? | Is the airport open that early? Should be, check-in counter may not be, but you start queueing nonetheless. On the up side, you've paid next to nothing for your flights, their pilots are as well-trained and their aircraft as well-maintained as any other European airline, and Ryanair *will* get you there eventually. Take a plastic bottle of water and a book for any long waits :-) Owain |
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