Tasers NEVER killed Anyone

"Jim Davis" wrote in message
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On Nov 22, 9:54 am, "Greg Carr" wrote:
That was the lamest struggle I have ever seen. The police didn't get
their
clothing torn or their hair messed up.


One problem there.... her wasn't unconscious. As the guy filming it
says
on
the video, he was still struggling.- Hide quoted text -

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There was no struggling there. He was cunvulsing from the shock,
which is a normal reaction.



He may have been struggling - to breathe.

Officers are trained to, after tasing someone, get him upright. The
officers didn't follow their training in deciding to use force, and they
didn't use their training when 3 of them kneeled on his back and neck, and
they didn't use their CPR training.

On Nov 22, 11:39 am, "Smells like Poutine"
wrote:
"Jim Davis" wrote in message

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On Nov 22, 9:54 am, "Greg Carr" wrote:
That was the lamest struggle I have ever seen. The police didn't get
their
clothing torn or their hair messed up.

One problem there.... her wasn't unconscious. As the guy filming it
says
on
the video, he was still struggling.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There was no struggling there. He was cunvulsing from the shock,
which is a normal reaction.

He may have been struggling - to breathe.

Officers are trained to, after tasing someone, get him upright. The
officers didn't follow their training in deciding to use force, and they
didn't use their training when 3 of them kneeled on his back and neck, and
they didn't use their CPR training.- Hide quoted text -

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*and*, they didn't know they were being video'd.

Greg Carr wrote:

That was the lamest struggle I have ever seen. The police didn't get their
clothing torn or their hair messed up.

How many broken bones, teeth or cuts and scratches do you think they have
to acquire before they can use force?

Smells like Poutine wrote:


He may have been struggling - to breathe.

Officers are trained to, after tasing someone, get him upright. The
officers didn't follow their training in deciding to use force, and they
didn't use their training when 3 of them kneeled on his back and neck, and
they didn't use their CPR training.

They should get him upright after he has been handcuffed. He was struggling
while they were trying to cuff him. From what I saw, only one was kneeling
on his shoulder, and it is is proper procedure to to that.

"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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Smells like Poutine wrote:


He may have been struggling - to breathe.

Officers are trained to, after tasing someone, get him upright. The
officers didn't follow their training in deciding to use force, and they
didn't use their training when 3 of them kneeled on his back and neck,
and
they didn't use their CPR training.

They should get him upright after he has been handcuffed. He was
struggling
while they were trying to cuff him. From what I saw, only one was kneeling
on his shoulder, and it is is proper procedure to to that.


Try and spin it however you want.
The fact is the officers didn't do what they were trained to do.

They are not trained to tase first, without trying anything else. They are
not trained to taser someone twice and keep him on his stomach, and kneel on
his back and neck.


He was struggling
while they were trying to cuff him.

He was trying to breathe, idiot. See how well you do after getting tased
twice, with no warning, and have 3 huge cops kneel on your back and neck.

Smells like Poutine wrote:


Try and spin it however you want.
The fact is the officers didn't do what they were trained to do.

They are not trained to tase first, without trying anything else. They are
not trained to taser someone twice and keep him on his stomach, and kneel on
his back and neck.

Call it spin if you want, but I have been through use of force training.
The use of force continuum, which you apparently are not aware off,
indicates taser in that situation.

He was struggling
while they were trying to cuff him.

He was trying to breathe, idiot. See how well you do after getting tased
twice, with no warning, and have 3 huge cops kneel on your back and neck.

After one officer got up, and while two are kneeling on the ground, and one
officer is kneeling on his shoulder..... about 6:67 on the video, Pritchard
says "Wow. He is still fighting them off." You are wrong about 3 large cops
kneeling on his back, and the eye witnesses expresses that the guy is
fighting them off, not struggling for breath. It is not I who is spinning
it.

On Nov 22, 1:26 pm, "Smells like Poutine"
wrote:
"Dave Smith" wrote in message

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Smells like Poutine wrote:

He may have been struggling - to breathe.

Officers are trained to, after tasing someone, get him upright. The
officers didn't follow their training in deciding to use force, and they
didn't use their training when 3 of them kneeled on his back and neck,
and
they didn't use their CPR training.

They should get him upright after he has been handcuffed. He was
struggling
while they were trying to cuff him. From what I saw, only one was kneeling
on his shoulder, and it is is proper procedure to to that.

Try and spin it however you want.
The fact is the officers didn't do what they were trained to do.

They are not trained to tase first, without trying anything else. They are
not trained to taser someone twice and keep him on his stomach, and kneel on
his back and neck.

He was struggling
while they were trying to cuff him.

He was trying to breathe, idiot. See how well you do after getting tased
twice, with no warning, and have 3 huge cops kneel on your back and neck.

You're talking to a brick wall, and probibly the ony one who is
defending them. (Andwith the same lame statements over and over
again.)

"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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Smells like Poutine wrote:


Try and spin it however you want.
The fact is the officers didn't do what they were trained to do.

They are not trained to tase first, without trying anything else. They
are
not trained to taser someone twice and keep him on his stomach, and kneel
on
his back and neck.

Call it spin if you want, but I have been through use of force training.
The use of force continuum, which you apparently are not aware off,
indicates taser in that situation.


Officers are not supposed to attack a man who is not a threat.
He wasn't even offering passive resistance.




He was struggling
while they were trying to cuff him.

He was trying to breathe, idiot. See how well you do after getting tased
twice, with no warning, and have 3 huge cops kneel on your back and neck.

After one officer got up, and while two are kneeling on the ground, and
one
officer is kneeling on his shoulder..... about 6:67 on the video,
Pritchard
says "Wow. He is still fighting them off." You are wrong about 3 large
cops
kneeling on his back, and the eye witnesses expresses that the guy is
fighting them off, not struggling for breath. It is not I who is spinning
it.


Again, you would rather he just lay still and slip into unconsciousness?
Would you?

Bull****. If you'd just been tased twice, and had 3 large officers kneeling
on your back and neck, would you struggle to breathe, or would you lay
still?

Smells like Poutine wrote:

Call it spin if you want, but I have been through use of force training.
The use of force continuum, which you apparently are not aware off,
indicates taser in that situation.

Officers are not supposed to attack a man who is not a threat.
He wasn't even offering passive resistance.

If he was not a threat, why were the police called?



says "Wow. He is still fighting them off." You are wrong about 3 large
cops
kneeling on his back, and the eye witnesses expresses that the guy is
fighting them off, not struggling for breath. It is not I who is spinning
it.

Again, you would rather he just lay still and slip into unconsciousness?
Would you?

Pritchard did not comment that the man was struggling for breath. His
comment was "Woe. He is still fighting them off."

Bull****. If you'd just been tased twice, and had 3 large officers kneeling
on your back and neck, would you struggle to breathe, or would you lay
still?

Most people lay after being zapped with a taser.

"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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Bull****. If you'd just been tased twice, and had 3 large officers
kneeling
on your back and neck, would you struggle to breathe, or would you lay
still?

Most people lay after being zapped with a taser.


That's not what I asked.
Would YOU lay still if you'd been zapped twice and had 3 officers on top of
your back and neck, and you couldn't breathe.

The public sees a man fighting for his life.
You cops see a man fighting.

You are displaying the same lack of common sense and narrow view that the 4
murderer RCMP officers did that day.