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Old April 9th, 2005, 01:59 PM
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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

1/ My potential employer is the National Education whose recruitment is
strictly anonymous.


These days, it's best not to depend too much on the job-for-life
concept.

2/ If proven, denying a job because of former "essays" on the Usenet,
since these are legal, might lead in front of the Prud'Hommes.


Right after successful actions for use of graphology, eh?

3/ Since you seem to be aware of computer science and civil liberties,
where in the CNIL declaration number of your website? A disclaimer is
not engough, my dear...


It doesn't require a declaration, since it does not undertake the
activities targeted by the law. As it happens, though, there is a very
long legal page on the site which provides all the information that a
declaration would normally provide, anyway.

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Old April 9th, 2005, 01:59 PM
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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

1/ My potential employer is the National Education whose recruitment is
strictly anonymous.


These days, it's best not to depend too much on the job-for-life
concept.

2/ If proven, denying a job because of former "essays" on the Usenet,
since these are legal, might lead in front of the Prud'Hommes.


Right after successful actions for use of graphology, eh?

3/ Since you seem to be aware of computer science and civil liberties,
where in the CNIL declaration number of your website? A disclaimer is
not engough, my dear...


It doesn't require a declaration, since it does not undertake the
activities targeted by the law. As it happens, though, there is a very
long legal page on the site which provides all the information that a
declaration would normally provide, anyway.

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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:00 PM
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Padraig Breathnach writes:

Evidence?


Test results, their attitudes in class, and their own declarations.

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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:00 PM
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Padraig Breathnach writes:

Evidence?


Test results, their attitudes in class, and their own declarations.

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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:01 PM
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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

I mentioned the Gayssot law as it is one of the biggest restrictions on
freedom of speech in France. YOU made dubious comparisons with the
Nazis. Sort your brain celles out.


Uh ... the law you mention deals _specifically_ with the activities of
the Nazis. I didn't have to compare it with the Nazis, as Nazism was of
the essence of the law.

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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:01 PM
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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

I mentioned the Gayssot law as it is one of the biggest restrictions on
freedom of speech in France. YOU made dubious comparisons with the
Nazis. Sort your brain celles out.


Uh ... the law you mention deals _specifically_ with the activities of
the Nazis. I didn't have to compare it with the Nazis, as Nazism was of
the essence of the law.

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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:04 PM
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Mxsmanic wrote:

1/ My potential employer is the National Education whose recruitment is
strictly anonymous.


These days, it's best not to depend too much on the job-for-life
concept.


Do you seriously think that your advice is of anu value to me?

2/ If proven, denying a job because of former "essays" on the Usenet,
since these are legal, might lead in front of the Prud'Hommes.


Right after successful actions for use of graphology, eh?


Don't point in another direction! we're talking about Usenet posts.
National Education (unlike the Police forces) don't do morality
enquiries anymore.

3/ Since you seem to be aware of computer science and civil liberties,
where in the CNIL declaration number of your website? A disclaimer is
not engough, my dear...


It doesn't require a declaration, since it does not undertake the
activities targeted by the law.


You are collecting data, both on unvoluntarily and voluntarily basis.
You should show the CNIL declaration of the files in which you keep your
data, and a reminder of the access rights to personal data (1978 law).

As it happens, though, there is a very
long legal page on the site which provides all the information that a
declaration would normally provide, anyway.


In English only.


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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Stanislas de Kertanguy
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Mxsmanic wrote:

1/ My potential employer is the National Education whose recruitment is
strictly anonymous.


These days, it's best not to depend too much on the job-for-life
concept.


Do you seriously think that your advice is of anu value to me?

2/ If proven, denying a job because of former "essays" on the Usenet,
since these are legal, might lead in front of the Prud'Hommes.


Right after successful actions for use of graphology, eh?


Don't point in another direction! we're talking about Usenet posts.
National Education (unlike the Police forces) don't do morality
enquiries anymore.

3/ Since you seem to be aware of computer science and civil liberties,
where in the CNIL declaration number of your website? A disclaimer is
not engough, my dear...


It doesn't require a declaration, since it does not undertake the
activities targeted by the law.


You are collecting data, both on unvoluntarily and voluntarily basis.
You should show the CNIL declaration of the files in which you keep your
data, and a reminder of the access rights to personal data (1978 law).

As it happens, though, there is a very
long legal page on the site which provides all the information that a
declaration would normally provide, anyway.


In English only.


--
inversez "kertanguy" et "de" pour me joindre
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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:05 PM
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

I mentioned the Gayssot law as it is one of the biggest restrictions on
freedom of speech in France. YOU made dubious comparisons with the
Nazis. Sort your brain celles out.


Uh ... the law you mention deals _specifically_ with the activities of
the Nazis. I didn't have to compare it with the Nazis, as Nazism was of
the essence of the law.



Is it you or Lucifer who wrote this:

There were many such restrictions that the Nazis didn't consider
abusive, either.

which clearly means you assume the Gayssot law is a Nazi)like law!

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Old April 9th, 2005, 02:09 PM
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Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:

Not when it means the qualification protected by state-agreed diplomas.


It only means that if it is followed by "diplômé." In practice, nobody
ever cares about that part, and it is used either by itself or followed
by some other qualifier (e.g., "commercial").

And being almost constantly wrong.


Then this is a glaring exception to the rule, isn't it?

A plate of brass (but referred to as "copperplate") that you pin on the
entrance of your building.


I've never heard of any such thing.

So it's a reference.


There are lots of references.

Absolutely not.


I actually read French laws; I've been doing it for years.

Blah, blah, blah. Who tells you that I won't remove all my posts from
Google if I want to?


What makes you think that Google will remove them? And what about all
the thousands of other copies in the world?

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