Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy writes:

You do realise that you address an audience here of people that live in
Europe, live in the US, and have lived in both- and that think you're
sounding like a bit of a ****?

I'm completely serious.

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Earl Evleth writes:

It is a very structured system.

It sounds way too much like Hollywood and professional sports.

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DDT Filled Mormons writes:

In your parts, how much per hour would you expect to get? Here it's 12
- 18 Euro/hr. If you can land 20 hours a week, that's not a miserable
income.

That depends on the cost of living. In Paris, €18/hr is €9/hr after
taxes and social security, and at 20 hours a week, that's only €780 a
month net. That's enough to make a rent payment, but it leaves
nothing for anything else.

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Padraig Breathnach writes:

Twenty hours teaching a week is essentially a full-time job, as you
have to allow time for preparation of classes and materials, for
correcting students' work, and for bits an pieces of extra involvement
with students.

Yes. Unfortunately, you are typically paid only for the time actually
spent in front of students, so you work 40-50 hours a week, and you
are paid for 20 hours.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy writes:

You do realise that you address an audience here of people that live in
Europe, live in the US, and have lived in both- and that think you're
sounding like a bit of a ****?

I'm completely serious.

I believe you. You seriously sound like a bit of a ****.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Translation usually pays very poorly, too, although that depends a lot
on the language and the translator's subject specialties.

Often in the region of €150 per 1000 words. For quality work, that's a
poor rate.

I asked a purchaser of translation services if the word-count was on
the source or the object document. It's often the latter -- yet
another reason why translated documents are longer than the originals.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Padraig Breathnach writes:

Twenty hours teaching a week is essentially a full-time job, as you
have to allow time for preparation of classes and materials, for
correcting students' work, and for bits an pieces of extra involvement
with students.

Yes. Unfortunately, you are typically paid only for the time actually
spent in front of students, so you work 40-50 hours a week, and you
are paid for 20 hours.

I'd think 40-50 hours a week to be a high estimate. My guess would be
about 35.

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Martin wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:40:14 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

DDT Filled Mormons writes:

In your parts, how much per hour would you expect to get? Here it's 12
- 18 Euro/hr. If you can land 20 hours a week, that's not a miserable
income.

That depends on the cost of living. In Paris, €18/hr is €9/hr after
taxes and social security, and at 20 hours a week, that's only €780 a
month net.

Other categories also pay taxes and social security.

I make it only EUR 720

We had this problem before. There are more than four weeks in most
months.

That's enough to make a rent payment, but it leaves
nothing for anything else.

You need something to occupy you that earns money for the other 20
hours most people work a week.

There is more work in teaching than the time spent in the classroom.

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:28:24 +0100, Martin wrote:


I'm willing to believe it except it's only a few months since Mixi
said that he spent 8 hours a day between lessons twiddling his thumbs.

Thought he did Pantyhose Inspections in his downtime



Keith, Bristol, UK

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Martin writes:

Perhaps because they got paid a lot more by Airbus Industries and
Alcatel etc. in Toulouse.

Same thing.

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